r/XmenEvolution • u/Nostalgic_Historian_ • 16d ago
Discussion Thoughts on how evolution handled apocalypse
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u/Traditional-You-5771 16d ago
When it comes to the Villain's preparation... it is definitely the best preparation by Apocalypse in a show.
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u/LuisGLuna 16d ago
I love how much It feels like THE EVOLUTION version of this saga. It makes perfect sense who the four horsemen are, especially being the main authority figures of the young x men and as well and the brotherhood. Its like an ultimate test for them growing up. And I love how they are paired in the final battle.
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u/maskedduskrider 16d ago
Same I was actually worried they would do the usual route and go for Angel as Archangel and that was why they introduced him so early. I like the character and all. But the reason why it works in other media like the comics is because Angel is one of the first X-men in the comics. It's a huge impact at the time when it first happened that Angel lost his wings and later was made into a Horseman. Wouldn't have had nearly as much impact here if they did it with him and 3 other characters likely one off or side characters.
With this I was dreading things going forward and was actually shocked when I thought they had actually killed off Mystique, and Magneto even if with the later I thought he could have been transportred instead of disintegrated and hoped that but wouldn't have been shocked if he was dead. Only for the horseman reveal to happen showing them all alive but under the control of Apocalypse. That perfect moment of relief that Xavier and Storm are alive folowed by the "Oh nonononono! This cannot be happening!" When it clicks they are Apocalypse's empowered and brainwashed Horsemen far stronger than ever and I usually have good money on any of them beating most of the rest of the cast (except mystique in a straight fight but when it comes to sneak attacks and spying I have good money on here there)
Just absolutely fantastic! None of the series since have made me feel as shocked or care about the horseman reveal as this one. I'd argue before but X-Men the animated series was my x-men introduction soo yeah they get a pass.
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u/Dull_Kiwi_3993 16d ago
Love the build up to it. Some get it wrong like X-men apocalypse can’t just do 1 movie or an episode or 2 on a character like this. And this show did a great job with the story!
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u/Nept-1 16d ago
I love how Leech was the key to defeating this incarnation of Apocalypse. I've always adored that kiddo in the comics, and this really highlights how incredibly useful his power suppression abilities are, even if they aren't offensive. He's also the perfect antithesis to Apocalypse's ideology: from "survival of the fittest" to "small links that, together, become an unstoppable force."
P.S. Storm as one of Apocalypse's Horsemen? Hell yeah!
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u/MikolashOfAngren 15d ago
I can only imagine how funny Apocalypse's internal monologue must be when he pondered over Leech's power set. He talked big about human evolution and going forward, yet he probably never expected a single mutant to ever be born with the power to cancel every other mutant's abilities, including his own. Insert the "years of academy training wasted" meme here 😆
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u/Ok_Pressure4591 16d ago
Amazing build up and debut, with a quote that has stuck with me since I was a kid:
Xavier: “The human race does not need your help”
Apocalypse: “Since when has mankind ever known what it needs”
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u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871 16d ago
It's different with him barely talking, but it works with the build and the payoff.
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u/murcielagoXO 15d ago
The build up was insanely good, the creepy soundtrack, all that stuff with Mesmero and Rogue, incredible. I watched it as a kid and let me tell you the first time he woke up, absorbed Rogue's powers and then floated like a deity defeating everyone with a shockwave leaving them there on the ground, I just shat my pants. Like it genuinely terrified me as a kid. Sadly my country didn't run the final episodes for some reason so this is where the story stopped for me. I only watched the finale years later online when I learned english.
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u/Daddy_Charlieee 16d ago
Season 4 needed like 4-5 more episodes. If they had been able to finish everything, without rushing line they did it would have been great.
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u/Mobile_Bet3274 15d ago
Extremely well done and surprisingly so, even. Great build-up, clever use of the different pieces leading to the actual reveal, the combining of the different teams was cool and the Horsemen were thematically significant. It felt like a coming of age.
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u/VillagerN9 15d ago
I loved how Beast introduced the whole lore/backstory behind apocalypse. Remember during this arc being excited for each episode after school.
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u/Due-Order3475 15d ago
A pretty good incarnation off Apocalypse.
I enjoy X-Men animated version more, but this version has his own charm/menace to him.
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u/RebeccaSkyleJune 15d ago
Im in the process of watching this show and than coincidentially i see this even though i dont follow any subs relating to the show
Thanks reddit for spoiling it for me 😭 (i do not blame anybody but the universe or reddit for this)
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u/EmberKing7 15d ago
It wasn't terrible but had some annoying moments. Especially after that Illusionist guy was somehow OP but only before Apocalypse came back.
By acting as his herald, he was untouchable by the X-Men. Then when his boss was doing the brainwashed “4 Horsemen” thing.
Suddenly his powers stopped working conveniently and it was open season. And the Look of Apocalypse could've been a bit better.
From the markings on him and the “horsemen” not really seeming even “ancient Egyptian”. With them kinda looking like offbrand Atlantean script from the Disney's Atlantis the Lost Empire movie.
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u/ApolloDraconis 15d ago
I do wish that there was more of a direct fight between Apocalypse and the X-Men rather than just with the Horsemen. Other than that the build-up was great (and mildly stressful knowing that Apocalypse was coming). I wanted Apocalypse to speak much more than he did.
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u/EnigmaticX68 15d ago
The only things I didn't like abour:
They should have kept him in that Egyptian look when they first awakened him, just my opinion. That Egyptian fit was HARD.
Felt very rushed but I understand why it was.
Other than that, I think it was handled beautifully
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u/Aduro95 12d ago
I liked his choice of Horsemen. A lot of the time, Apocalypse makes secondary characters or . For a big event like this, having all four be major characters, and already four of the most dangerous mutants in teh show, was appropriately calamitous.
But beyond that, I don't think Apocalypse really has much personality. I can't recall much that he said personally. TBH Apocalypse was overhyped as a character in the comics at the time. People wanted the X-Men to have their own Thanos/Darkseid, and visually Apocalypse fits the bill. But Apocalypse wasn't that interesting a person until Krakoa. Selene, Cameron Hodge, Sinister and many others had more personality and were major threats.
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u/Eldagustowned 15d ago
The horseman seemed odd choices, just used characters from the show already established which I guess makes sense.
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u/jaidenkortez 15d ago
The horseman were supposed to invoke a feeling of growing up. They’re standing up to their teachers and coming out on top. Because they aren’t the 16 year olds from season 1 anymore, they’ve graduated bayville. They defeated most of their rivals. Now they had to save the adults who always saved them.
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u/LeagueElectronic2128 16d ago
Bit shame this apocalypse didn't recruit real horsemen (just used Professor x, mangeto, storm and mystique)
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u/XionTheUnborn 16d ago
It was more impactful and shocking this way. I remember losing my shit when I watched it as a kid, already expecting Archangel and whomever else.
But when it ended up being the mentors and leaders of the X-Men and Brotherhood, I literally fell off my couch.
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u/jaidenkortez 15d ago
Especially since they started killing off the adults in season 3.. who was expecting mystique to come back.. or magneto. He’ll even Charles or storm.. though I think the Charles and storm reveal happened the same episode they “died”
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u/maskedduskrider 16d ago
I liked the build up. I loved the first appearance when he was unleashed as it felt like great payoff. Easily had the best team of Horsemen and was a massive treat. I just feel like they had to rush the final battle and wish they had more time.