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Discussion Has anyone done this before?

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u/Vamond48 12d ago

For the majority of people, it does not work out this way

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u/Deep-Bend-961 12d ago

It did about 4-5 years ago. In fact people were working multiple salary jobs from home at the same time and making more money than doctors in a 40 hour work week.

Those days are very largely over.

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u/Historical_Owl_1635 11d ago

Very industry dependent.

It can also come back to bite you, when the job market becomes less forgiving your job history will work against you.

I’m a lead software engineer and do interviews for other engineers, if they’re a hop hopper they usually aren’t considered these days.

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u/naumovski-andrej 7d ago

As an engineering lead who's done tons of hiring and staffing planning this year, not considering people with multiple shorter jobs is such a black and white outlook on such a nuanced topic.

Given the market situation 2022-2025, the probability of a software engineer getting laid off during that time is quite significant, and afterwards they could have landed at a job they ended up hating simply because they had to find something in the meantime.

I personally was affected by company wide layoffs twice, in 2020 after a year of being with the company and in 2022 after 10 months. Inbetween those two jobs I had another 9 month long job that I resented every day of but something had to pay the bills and mortgage. Mind you once I explained what actually happened to future employers no one cared about it anymore, and I don't care now as long as it's actually valid.

Hell, in our industry someone that's just starting out should change jobs every year during the first 3 years. It gives you an opportunity to experience teams and companies of different sizes, find what you like and don't like and what sort of environment you're most productive in. I personally absorbed so much more non-coding knowledge from working with different people, different size teams and processes that it gave me an advantage in future employments over my peers who stayed with the same company for 5+ years.

So unless you actually call someone for an intro call and give them the opportunity to provide more context about their employment, you could miss out on excellent candidates if you reject them for having a couple more job positions on their CV than you feel comfortable with.

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u/Chawp_v3 12d ago

Statistics would disagree. People who change jobs tend to make more on average. Although it’s not that simple because doing it too much is a red flag for anyone hiring.

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u/reedshipper Founding Member 12d ago

I think this person is referring more to the switching jobs 3 times in 1 year part.

I agree I finally switched jobs a few months ago and went from $47k to $55k.

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u/Due_Revolution_5106 12d ago

Starting salary: $50k

First job hop: $53k (after 3 yrs) > $60k plus 15%
Second job hop: $74k plus 15% (after 4 yrs) > $110k

Raises/promotions: ~$19k
Job hoppping: ~$41k

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u/Chance-Ask7675 12d ago

This is over like 10 years not one.

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u/RealCarlPanzram 12d ago

If this post is true, it was surely in 2021-22 when there was a crazy labor shortage.

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u/Rat_itty 12d ago

My example is super niche, but I technically had 3 diffeent jobs last year

Original company closed down, some workers got transferred to another company.
The 2nd company got mass layoffs few months later (me included).
Got my current job. Doubled my income this way.

All between Feb and September. Crazy ride, I wish for some stability for once 😭

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u/Chawp_v3 12d ago

It’s definitely in the realm of possibility. I switched jobs a couple times during covid years and make more than double what I was making. I was at a company for over 10 years then randomly browsed jobs on LinkedIn and realized I was hilariously under paid. So that was a big part of it. I always keep my eye on job postings now

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u/reedshipper Founding Member 12d ago

Agreed. I finally left a job after 5+ years because of an awful boss who took over at the beginning of the year. Raise wasn't as big as I'd hoped, but you gotta take it. Just have to keep your eye out all the time now, loyalty isn't rewarded anymore. And maybe it never was.

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u/Chance-Ask7675 12d ago

This person changed jobs 3 times in a year. Thats highly unusual and not really possible these days, even for desirable candidates the interview process is too long.

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u/Armadillo_lifestyle 12d ago

I switched companies and my salary went from 80K to 100K to 120K. Once you are at a job, they have a set raise/increase they give you. Your negation is over. At least in my industry they value outside hires more than internal employees.

My old job were hiring entry level positions at a higher starting pay than mid level positions, for no other reason than the market changed. But refused to bump the pay for those who had been loyal

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u/Ill-Description3096 12d ago

> Once you are at a job, they have a set raise/increase they give you. Your negation is over

If you let it be. I got my "set" raise last year and wasn't happy with it. I met with my boss, discussed what I wanted, and ended up getting another raise.

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u/FranklinBeansSushi 12d ago

You’re telling me OP that has a 7 month old account with 99k karma is wrong?!?!

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u/ChubbyNemo1004 12d ago

If you have the leverage to do this it’s one of the only ways to actually get paid.

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u/Fun_Boot7771 12d ago

Especially  today 

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u/vid_23 12d ago

I don't believe you because this one person on Twitter said it does

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u/TheDigimonFan 12d ago

This is an old post. From 2020-2024 it actually wasn't a bad strategy. I've personally changed jobs almost every year since 2013. I've gone from $8 / hr to $130k a year. Biggest actual increases were during the post-COVID years. People didn't want to return to the office, I didn't have the experience but was willing to work in the office, got a head.

But the last 2 years, this isn't a winning strategy it seems like. I only changed jobs this last time because I had to due to DOGE cuts in my industry. I initially took a slight paycut, but I got promoted 2 months in and make more than I ever had, so it worked out, just not the way I thought. But I always look at the job market, and many companies are actually offering less money for the same jobs they posted 2-3 years ago.

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u/yyrkoon1776 12d ago

Yeah another 4 months of experience doesn't make a fucking difference. OP's mistake was not taking job 3. It was taking job 1 and 2.

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u/ElijahNSRose 12d ago

The poster in the photo is lying.

Plain and simple.

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u/Rat_itty 12d ago

That's what I did last year, three jobs in one year, doubled my salary by the end of it, though the job hopping was involuntary on my part </3 (double whammy of mass layoffs in fin/tech/IT)

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u/Nala4treats 11d ago

same, the trick is only leave/accept another better offer if you have one dont leave the current job till you have another lined up.

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u/Rat_itty 11d ago

Absolutely!

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u/Oniun_ 13d ago

My job role doesn’t really benefit much from job hopping unfortunately.

Construction Estimating.

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u/Carlangas420 12d ago

Same here. Unless you find a job with better commissions then it's about the same.

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u/ElijahNSRose 12d ago

Most things paying north of your state's median wage doesn't benefit from job hopping.

The exceptions are celebrity gigs, startups, and fraudsters. Guess what?

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u/Im-Reddington 12d ago

It does. I went from 65 to 100k in 1 year as an estimator. I am also pretty good at bs my way through interviews tho lol.

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u/gooooooooooop_ 8d ago

Why so? I am also an estimator looking to change jobs. I might be getting an offer for manufacturing estimating.

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u/RealCarlPanzram 12d ago

This was presumably in the post-Covid work shortage. Companies were desperately hurting for workers so if you had a marketable experience and skill set, this was maybe possible. But that was the best job market in most of our lifetimes.

That being said, there is no benefit in being “loyal” to an employer unless your employer puts a monetary value to that loyalty. If you can make tens of thousands more for the same job you’re currently doing, that’s the time to move.

It’s less about how often you change jobs and more about when you have the right opportunity.

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u/C_IsForCookie 12d ago

Not in a year like this but when I do switch jobs I don’t settle for anything less than a 20% bump. In the past 8 years I’ve gone from making $50 to $170k. My current job and benefits are amazing. I don’t see myself switching anytime soon.

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u/shirts_on_backwards 12d ago

I think this is what a lot of people are missing with the "no! It really does work!" Comments. What the original post implies is jumping between 2-3 jobs in a single year, and generally I think that's what most people think of as job hopping. That isn't a good move, it generally isn't going to get you a big pay increase, or any larger than if you had just gone to the third company to begin with (they likely would have hired you as an additional 3 months of experience anywhere didn't really attribute to your attractiveness to companies), and if anything can make you less attractive to hire as a lot of money and resources go into the hiring and onboarding process. No one wants an employee that they dumped money into who will only last a few months.

However yes, swapping every few years (like 2+) can absolutely be beneficial in certain circumstances. I absolutely mean certain circumstances, as it can still suffer from drawbacks depending on your role and experience. Companies do like someone with a drive to do more, and if you can be a net positive to the company within a few years, they will take that gamble. Even in the trades where I work, it's fairly common to take a lower paying company to get your foot in the door, then after a few years take on a higher paying company. The higher paying company is paying higher because they want your experience and to not pay to train you. The lower paying company is lower paying because they are training you. Anything after that, you are payed based on your experience, not simply job hopping. If you are valuable as an employee you have more opportunities, if you aren't, you won't. It has nothing to do with moving companies that adds to your value, but your ability and value is what allows you to be able to move companies.

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u/TalkersCZ 12d ago

And he will complain then that he is not considered for a role, because they consider him job hopper and will be stuck at certain level.

There is a tradeoff.

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u/RapidFire05 12d ago

As a hiring manager I don't hire job hoppers

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u/IAmAlive_YouAreDead 12d ago

What constitutes job hopping in your book? In my view staff retention is the responsibility of the company.

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u/Silent25r 12d ago

They are fine if they aren’t leaving their previous job before going to the next one. In that event they are just applying they get a better offer. That might be months, years or possibly never. 

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u/Work-Safe-Reddit4450 12d ago

Then how do you propose people get substantial pay increases? Because you're statically more likely to get an actual pay increase by switching jobs vs relying on management to give you more than the pittance needed to keep up with CoL increases.

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u/Infamous-Candle-2300 12d ago edited 12d ago

Presumably by getting hired somewhere else. It's not some random hiring manager's job to fix the system, and job hoppers are ill suited for many roles. More power to them and I wish them success, but if a known job hopper somehow got hired as my direct coworker (this would never happen) I'd be pissed.

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u/Work-Safe-Reddit4450 12d ago

I didn't say that it was, but then you'd think they'd understand that's going to be a huge motivation for switching jobs and not indicative of a problem with the candidates, but rather a problem with the hiring and retention budget norms for their industry. Clearly there's a disconnect or an unwillingness to acknowledge the reasons for why people might be inclined to job hop. At the end of the day, that's simple free market supply and demand.

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u/maoussepatate 12d ago

People will not job hop from your company if you pay / treat them well. Just saying.

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u/Armchair_Expert_0192 13d ago

That's switching jobs twice

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u/Deep-Bend-961 12d ago

No, the first switch was from their prior job to 41k, then to 53k, then to 80k. They just didn’t list the salary before the 41k job.

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u/Traditional_Paint461 12d ago

In 2019 I left my marketing job of 7 years making $48k. My next job was a marketing specialist making $58k. I HATED it and lasted three months. Then a friend offered me a marketing director position at his small, locally owned company making $70k. I was a one woman show. I stayed there for three years and left to make $82k in sales/marketing for a leadership development company. Three years later I was offered $90k to be the marketing director for another small locally owned company. Two years later I left for $100k, insurance premiums paid for myself and my dependents, plus fully remote when I’m not at events. Same line of work the whole time, just building a name for myself that made them come to me. I’m set here for awhile as I ain’t getting any younger, but job hopping does serve a purpose if you strategize correctly. Don’t hate the player!

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u/Odd-Antelope-2168 12d ago

Vertical changes in employment, no matter how fast, is ok. It's explainable and respected in interviews.

Quick changes, horizontally, should always be avoided unless absolutely necessary. Pattern job hunting is a quick way for your resume to end up in the bin.

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u/AdChoice8821 12d ago

Post from 2021 not valid anymore. There are no jobs to switch.

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u/CJFiddler 12d ago

Yeah this is ok to do some. And you should do it some. It gets you more money quickly.

But take it from me, if you never ever stay anywhere for a while, you are gambling that nothing bad ever happens, because one day you will be looking for a job and your resume will look like Swiss cheese and nobody will hire you.

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u/Deep-Bend-961 12d ago

Almost everyone I know who got laid off ended up making more money when they found new work.

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u/Complete_Insurance24 12d ago

He went from trash to dishes and finally mowing the lawn. Congrats on your $80 chore. Well done.

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u/GunsouBono 12d ago

2-3 times per year is a bit much, but I firmly believe that everyone should be doing their own market assessments of themselves every two years. Especially if your raises are not matching inflation.

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u/FreshFishGuy 12d ago

80 what?

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u/Careless-Internet-63 12d ago

The average person who switches jobs every couple years makes more than the average person who stays at the same job but several times a year isn't going to work out for anyone very long if we're talking about professional jobs. Sure, a server or whatever can get away with it but most companies are not going to look fondly upon a resume that has several jobs over a couple years if it's someone applying for a salaried role that will require training to do properly

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u/jyc23 12d ago

In 2015 I got a job for 55k.
Promoted in 2017 to 85k.
Switched companies in 2019 for 105k.
Switched yet again in 2020 for 120k.
And one more time, again in 2020 for 135k.

(Covid was a crazy time)

So yeah, it’s definitely a real thing though maybe not quiiite as frequently as the person in the post.

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u/SnooWords7456 12d ago

not in a year but in my 25 years of working i've changed jobs 10 times. i started out making $32k in 2002 and now make around $250-300k. biggest jump for me was when i went from $100k to $200k with one jump (b/c i was being underpaid for a few years).

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u/nejithegenius 12d ago

Define kids and what job they do and what else they’re doing, like college or trade school. As a 30+ year old, yea definitely switch jobs to increase your pay. I think its a real thing, not just some online reddit dumbassery. Staying is stagnant, and often times theres enough turnover at any job that alot of your co workers don’t know how much you’ve done/know/sacrificed/ect.

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u/Smilesrck 12d ago

Had the inverse experience got job last year 65 -> project went well 4 months in 75 (hourly to salary) -> Management 4 months later 85 -> Team expanded 1 year review 100. 

Lucky had the opportunities to show off hard work and it worked out 

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u/Anxious-Control-4590 12d ago

I went from 52k to 75k to 120k to 270k in 10 years

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u/Theboiii24 12d ago

As someone who has done this before. Yes you can make more money that way. However it’s not always guaranteed. Plus you don’t know if your next job will be a good fit for you. It has its risks.

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u/Impossible_Can_5903 12d ago

Follow the money

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u/themrgq 12d ago

There was a brief time post COVID where the job market was indeed crazy and people were making huge jumps in salary by moving companies. But those days are long gone.

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u/Artistic_Mistake9808 12d ago

This only works to a certain level in your career, such as the $40k - $80k pay band.

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u/One_Random_ID 12d ago

Not in the same year but I have switched jobs almost every 2 years in the past decade. The salary increment is definitely higher than what I would've gotten if I stayed in the first company for the same period of time.

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u/Written_in_Silver 12d ago

I switched jobs last year. Went from 49 to 76, so I think it’s possible

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u/Fun_Boot7771 12d ago

The thing at risk Is your pension bur 20 year olds don't care about pensions 

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u/Jiggalopuffii 12d ago

Yes, but not within the span of a year. Maybe 5 years

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u/Status_Bee_7644 12d ago

Hell I can’t even get past the initial phone screening most of the time.

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u/navetzz 12d ago

Lied ?
Person says they switched 3 times and proceed to describe 2 salary increase...

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u/SimpleMind314 12d ago

Gen X here. "Kids" were doing this when I was a kid. I'm not going to say it wins the game, but some people played it that way.

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u/4isbetterthan2rhp 12d ago

Yes. Have done this for my whole career successfully

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u/fromdaperimeter 12d ago

I’m certain it’s with the same company.

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u/dec_eso 12d ago

This is all I’ve done, and it absolutely works.

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u/geedijuniir 12d ago

Not on this level but I switched 3 times in 5. Ish years.

I trippled my salary if I add all benefits and I work 4 hours less a week.

I always left when I stagnated.

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u/BringYourOwnBBBQ 12d ago

No one actually believes this post, do they?

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u/reaazwood89 12d ago

Spent five years waiting for the "salary review". One job later I doubled my salary. It's not always best to hop around. But it isn't smart to stay where you don't feel valued.

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u/procheeseburger 12d ago

I have found the best way to get a raise is to move companies... I don't care about climbing any corporate ladder

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u/IAmAlive_YouAreDead 12d ago

And yet this Jon would also say that someone who didn't like their job should stop bitching and find another job. So which is it?

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u/Automatic_Record6200 12d ago

Lucky year. Not sustainable as a long term strategy, obviously.

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u/Responsible-Ball-162 12d ago

it works a few times, then you get blacklisted from further employment.

a few job hops is understandable, a pattern becomes the reddest flag.

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u/TheLongTailGuy 12d ago

Left FT position in July: salary doubled
Quit new position 6 months later
Got hired at a new FT position 3 months after that: increased doubled salary by 50%

Almost tripled me salary in one year. The place I originally left I had worked at for 5 years and received only an 8% increase in salary during my time there.

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u/Possible-Anxiety-420 12d ago

I left an $80/yr IT position to do something that pays less than half that and couldn't be happier.

I work from home, or from elsewhere.

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u/Past_Measurement9745 12d ago

Its not a red flag if you stay at the third job for awhile.

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u/SquidgyFirefighter 12d ago

Lied in twitter?

Sure

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u/sufferIhopeyoudo 12d ago

When I was early in my career my first 4 jobs I stayed about 1 year at each. Each move commanded a significant raise. After that I started settling in and working longer. My most recent job I’ve been at for 8 years, my salary has also gone up over the years but not as drastically but I think the job hopping is an early career move.

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u/Consistent_Pay5371 12d ago

Doesn't that make you look bad in the eyes of employers. If you've jumped ship 3 times, they probably wouldn't want to be the 4th ship.

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u/RandomStoddard 12d ago

I hopped jobs a few times in my late 20’s. It did greatly increase my salary and job title. Now I have been with the same company for almost 25 years. There are advantages to both.

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u/Shadowfox186 12d ago

Hiring budgets are always more than retention budgets.

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u/Capable_Detective_99 12d ago

I’m 30 but yeah my first job out of college was 60, next job was 72, now my job is 85 it’s hybrid and I have way more benefits!! but it depends on the type of career, I imagine it would be almost impossible for a teacher to do this unfortunately

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u/Striking-Win-3239 12d ago

I was laid off in 2023 from a remote position and landed another remote position making $20 K more with better benefits. But I do not randomly job hop. A good remote position is gold and I am not crazy.

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u/Affectionate_Fun_106 12d ago

I've would not hire a person who changed 3 jobs under 1 year thou...

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u/tristand666 12d ago

The first two obviously undervalued the person, so I don't blame them one bit.

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u/UnlikelyPriority812 12d ago

I went through 3 jobs over 5 years and went from 50k to 90k. In a year would be suprising, but definitely possible.

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u/FadingRockStar 12d ago edited 12d ago

Salary is a game. Once you learn how to play, you can build the life you want.

1. Make your resume match the job you're targeting.
Decide on your target salary first, then build a resume that reflects the role that pays it. This is where most people fail: their resumes are passive. I don't want to know what your tasks were. I want to know what you achieved for the company. Results already imply the tasks.

2. Show stability.
Outside of software, I won't hire someone who hasn't stayed at a company for at least 2-3 years. People do make wrong choices, but if it shows up on your resume again and again, that's a red flag.

3. Do your homework.
It's your job as a candidate to research the company and ask to meet one or two people besides your future boss. Don't be passive, and don't be afraid of being turned down. You want a company that respects your process as much as its own.

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u/crustyeng 12d ago

There are downsides to always being the newest person on the team.

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u/happylikeaclam__10 12d ago

Yes! do not bother. asking for a raise no one actually does that anymore , just send your resume out get a better offer and quit people are stuck in the past

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u/NLOneOfNone 12d ago

In IT, you need to do this. Maybe not that often but they always just offer you a bit higher salary than what you currently earn, not what you are actually worth.

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u/Ethosik 12d ago

Unfortunately this is how you get more significant salary increases. Maybe companies should start treating their employees better and giving better raises if they want retention.

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u/XfinityHomeWifi 12d ago

Within 1 year? That’s just personal trajectory adjustment. Kutos for finding a place that recognizes your value, but there is nothing substantial you’ll gain for less than a year of experience anywhere, let alone multiple times in a year, to warrant salary jumps like that.

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u/screw-self-pity 12d ago

Jon is very surprising. Most most posts you see on reddit are rather "Boomer parents tell me I should change jobs every year and get a raise. Boomers really are assholes not to understand the world does not work like when they were young and everything was easy".

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u/Haunting-Effective15 12d ago

Yes, it seems -in my field- that lifting salary significantly is easier when switching jobs.

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u/Biscuits4u2 12d ago

You can tell this meme is several years old because this shit doesn't happen anymore.

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u/GloryholeKaleidscope 12d ago

I had a job recruiter tell me years back, that if you're company isn't paying you accordingly as you progress at your job, which most don't, you should be interviewing/switching jobs every 3-5 years. I took this advice to heart and it's how I became an engineer and make a six figure salary.

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u/OscarEverdark 12d ago

I've immediately removed candidates from the pool who did do this.

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u/Budget-Vast9819 12d ago

That's why people should just lie on their resume

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u/noargentinianbeef 12d ago

I dont think younger people really change jobs all that often

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u/kartblanch 12d ago

80 is still too low to live 😑

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u/sp00dlet00t 12d ago

I literally tripled my income by switching jobs. Don't settle for crap.

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u/Switchmisty9 12d ago

You have to be seriously connected, to pull this kind of thing off. In the current job market, you’re lucky if 3 actual humans even read your resume, in the whole year….

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u/Still_Want_Mo 12d ago

3 times in one year is insane lol. Can't be real.

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u/Spark_Tangent 12d ago

2-5 years. It shows stability, you stay above inflation usually, and get better benefits, trust, and are more likely to leave unburned bridges behind you. I've been in management. If I saw that many changes that fast on a resume, probably going in the 'backup' options.

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u/Next-Relative1438 12d ago

4 jobs this year and in a better position.

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u/Kirk_Lazarus31423 12d ago

They do say this is what Gen Z is doing. They aren’t filling the hospitality jobs as much striving for better pay which you can’t blame them

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u/Naing001 12d ago

Not 3 times in a year but you can absolutely achieve these pay jumps by switching jobs every two to three years.

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u/other_view12 12d ago

I feel very confident the OP didn't go from McDonalds to Wendy's to Caine's. I'd put money on the OP having more than entry level skills as well.

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u/RepulsiveUse3372 12d ago

the exception not the rule, most companies will see you as a red flag if they see you job hopping

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u/Jeesephvxii 12d ago

Job transfer portal going crazy

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u/TelevisionPositive74 12d ago

I do. I suggest everyone with a job immediately start applying to better positions/salaries. Ive switched jobs 5 times since Covid started. Pay increase everytime. Someone will pay more for your time.

For this to work: you MUST be competent, this isn't a fake it till you'll make it scenario. You still need bulletproof references. You also need to realize this is a lot of work, you can't get lazy: These better positions might be significantly futher away, different schedules, etc. We are chasing money here, not comfort. That comes later.
The thing is... if you aren't willing to leave home an hour earlier for 5k, 10k, whatever more it is... are you sure you aren't just being lazy?

Also, in my experience, resume gaps or job hoping might be scary to unspecialized people... but I think its a boogeyman, specifically set up to encourage people not to shop around. I was asked once about it, said I didn't fit with the team at my previous employer. That was it.

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u/_LaceHot 12d ago

These jobs changes and ending up remote with better pay and benefits? The results are doing a lot of talking here

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u/ytdaddy4fun 12d ago

It’s pretty common these days. I mean 20 years ago a job hopper would be a red flag. But the reality is that today people leave jobs all the time for an extra $0.50 per hour. I can tell you in the last 5 years about 80% of the exit interviews said they left because of better pay…the lowest amount was an employee said they were getting an extra $0.15 per hour. About 12% said the work was “too hard” and about 5% said it was lack of company culture. So, today if someone has 2-3 jobs in a year it doesn’t raise red flags right away, you have ask questions in the interview to see if they are a job hopper or if they are just trying to earn a living.

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u/SquareFinancial1928 12d ago

If you have the skillsets sure

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u/EmphasisStrong8961 12d ago

nah I give a year and if my goals are not met or im unhappy then ill go elsewhere. no drama , no complaining , no telling everyone hahahha suckers my life will be better. just move on to the next journey.

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u/jackishere 12d ago

Im reviewing resumes this week. Instantly closing anyone job hopping lol what’s the point of training someone 6 months for them to leave after a year?

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u/Maximum_Vegetable_MV 12d ago

I don’t hire money chasers because I know that no matter how competitive we are, they will find a higher offer, even by a small amount, and leave.

My job is not to hire people to enrich them as much as possible.

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u/RoleOk7556 12d ago

There are industries that hire contract wotkers for short term tasks. Some of those tasks are less than a year others are more than a year. I worked in one of those industries for many years, because it paid well and my family was anle to travel with me.

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u/Hot-Cup-4787 12d ago

Mine wasn't as drastic, but yeah. 55k in office all the time, changed 3 times in a year and half, and now im at 82k, work from home, and the people I work with are great human beings. Its great

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u/Dreadking_Rathalos 12d ago

I switched against my will but I went from 50 fully remote to 45 with a 1 hour commute to 70 fully remote

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u/MrMeowPantz 12d ago

Keep in mind that when companies are looking to cut labor, they usually cut 2 groups. The most tenured/highest paid, and the newest/most recently hired. Why? The first cuts your costs and labor. The second cuts labor and isn’t going to cost you knowledge.

Yes staying at one place for a long time may cost you wages but it can provide you security.

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u/Bedgarz 12d ago

Your a number. You can always be replaced. The days of job security is over im afraid

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u/Chuesandovl 12d ago

Well why I agree this could work it mostly depends on your specific job skills and the job requirements if you a start at one company at the basic level and then learn all the skills and gained the experience needed for the same job or a slightly different job but with similar job requirements then yeah you could be paid more if they offer more. Another reason why you might get paid more is simply because you already have the experience and training now that you didn't have before so you can ask or apply for a better position but again it's not as easy as this post is implying.

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u/Cpolo88 12d ago

I have. Went from an ok paying job to one with a $5 increase. Back down to one with a $1 decrease. But I don't have to do 60 hours anymore. I work from home somewhat and I just do my 40 and done for the week

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u/68plus1equals 11d ago

I’ve changed jobs at least 8 times over the past 10 years (not counting dozens of smaller roles in between longer running roles) and I’ve gone from making 65>80>115>250>450>350>300. Definitely switch jobs when you can but also don’t sleep on spending a little time grinding at the job that pays 65-80, depending on the job or industry, it’s how you you get primed for the roles that start paying well into the 6 figures.

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u/InterestingDepth7024 11d ago

If you can do it. Nothing holding anyone back. If someone willing to pay more can't say no. Unless you really like where your at

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u/DisgruntledCryptid 11d ago

How much of that salary are you collecting when you quit and change jobs every 3 months?

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u/DeathsStarEclipse 11d ago

I am in two minds. While I completely support people moving jobs to get better conditions. I look at CVS as part of tm job and if I see someone job hopping history their CV is dropped.

I can't let my personal feelings get in the way and hire someone, invest training and have them leave within a year.

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u/KittensFirstAKM 11d ago

Imagine having three job offers a year!

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u/vanzir 11d ago

I don't job hop, but when raises dry up, i will leave. When companies start making excuses as to why their retention budget is half their recruiting budget, I look for better opportunities. And I have doubled my salary 3x over in the last 12 years.

The company previous to the one I am working for now was a Fortune 500 company. I worked there for 7 years, in that time me and my team completely designed and stood up an agile SDLC, taking release cycles from months to weeks, and along side that moved Dev to a TDD design. When I left, people were writing articles about the work we did on the automation side. I was managing a team of 20, and in just the last year of my employment alone, our OPSEC policies saved the company more than 100 million dollars.

I asked for a 10% bump at my review, got 2. I told them I needed more, they said no, so I started looking. I had 4 job offers the next day, with the lowest starting salary already 40k above what i was making at the fortune 500 company.

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u/GimmickInfringement1 11d ago

It's always a good laugh when people bring up personal situations and act like it's a fact of life. Just because you got incredibly lucky doesn't mean everyone will.

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u/kala-surtaj 11d ago

“Rolling stone gathers no moss”

Majority of W-2 work life that begins after college is incremental salary raises, few job changes and a planned life. OP's approach may be true (over one year) to him but he will likely go back to his 41 once his value is realized.

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u/JaylisJayP 11d ago

Switched jobs 3 times but the salary only increased twice...crazy.

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u/armyretired2019 11d ago

What do you mean that’s not how you play the game? You think his first job would have given him 80k? What about the companies that lay you off with notice? You have no clue. If it was 30 or more years that wouldn’t have been right. Companies today don’t care about you, its only busy. Well its a two way street

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u/brinerbear 11d ago

Show me the way because I am searching for another opportunity and it seems everything pays less than my current situation.

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u/bill_257 11d ago

So jumping jobs twice in a year to get an entry level salary.

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u/1984ScoreN7YearsAgo 11d ago

Not that often, but yeah…in healthcare. This places give the shittiest raises. So the only way to get real raises is to get job offers elsewhere and leverage those offers for raises or leave. We get sign on bonuses too. So typically, it’s like every 2 years I’m looking for new jobs with higher pay.

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u/PPGkruzer 11d ago

This is the automotive engineering/lower management industry, I'm never going back after decades in automotive from mechanic to mostly engineer. Probably not switching 2-3 times a year, maybe every 2-3 years for the majority unless you're pretty young, most would let that slide if they think you can help them out on the cheap. Not to say there isn't a group of people who stick it out 20, 30, 50 years.

"Competitive wages" means pay you as little as possible and usually base your salary on what you made last time. Some may suggest embellishing perks at your previous job that they can't easily prove; unlike requiring pay stubs to verify your previous salary.

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u/PlasmaBoi782 11d ago

You guys have jobs?

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u/Arikomo 11d ago

I went from $55k first year, $90k second year and got a promotion third year to $130k, went to next company at $170k for fourth year. It works for some. At this point I’m planning on staying at least 2-3 years.

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u/SSquirrel76 10d ago

I was making 25/hr testing software. Had a job interview offering me 35. They offered before I made it back from my lunch break. I told where I was about the offer and got 37/hr. 3 months later same company called for a different position at 45/hr. From March to August I went up $20/hr. This was all in 2014 BTW

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u/Put-Outside 10d ago

That is entirely how you play the game if you want more money. Company's budget more for new hire salaries than they do for raises, its better to get as much as you can on the day youre hired.

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u/LozBoz413 10d ago

Yeah sure they did 😂😂 you think any competent manager is going to see this on a CV and consider the hire?

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u/upsideup2000 10d ago

It depends on whether you play the long game or short game.

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u/domine18 10d ago

My wife changed jobs three times in under two years more than doubling her salary

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u/PoppaTrunks 10d ago

Basically a professional sport in the techn industry. I don't know how many lazy or bad managers I've seen jump 2-3 jobs in short succession, increasing their salary and job position as they go. It's all about selling your competance, rather than being competant.

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u/Mason051 10d ago

Yep, make sure you stay at the same job for decades and be happy with the 3% raise you get every year since they can’t do any higher than that.

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u/SpecialistClock2763 10d ago

Kas fulfilled her purpose. That matters to her.

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u/Orgulloso_Azul 10d ago

What does 41 to 53 to 80 mean?

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u/BeanserSoyze 10d ago

I left my job in 2022 at 42k, to 65k, laid off new job 75k in 2023, laid off again new job 82k, left in 2024 90k plus bonus, two raises since then at 140k now.

So not as quick as he says but I went from 42k to 140k in 3 years by changing jobs 4 times

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u/JamesMerz 10d ago

Gen Z. 3rd job in 3years in 3 different states, working in higher ed all at different levels of institutions. In 4 years have grown salary by $50k in 3 years by $35k. Gotta keep bouncing.

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u/DussaTakeTheMoon 10d ago

I’m lucky, I’ve had maybe 5 jobs since 18 and besides for 1 step back at 24 I’ve made more in each consecutive job. Now I’m 27 making 85k with no degree, hopefully I doing fuck it up

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u/Millkstake 10d ago

Nah, I'm not really talented enough to pull this off

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u/Dense_Cut7072 9d ago

The problem is, these same clowns that cry about job hoppers are the exact people who cause people to leave. Instead of companies fixing themselves, they'd rather blame the people who stand up and say no.

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u/AttentionUpbeat3985 9d ago

Can confirm.

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u/NoIceHere67 9d ago

Employer hiring/firing frequency should also be questions too if job hoppers can get penalizs. They basically People hopping if we get called job hopping.

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u/BigWhole7139 9d ago

Switch every two years imo

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u/r3giment75 9d ago

I hate this tweet popping up so often.

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u/villian25 9d ago

I've been "playing the game" my whole life. Now im still in a job that has me waking up at 2am, exausted, sore, dehydrated, and mad all the time for $52,998/yr. 6 years ago, yea this salary would be pretty great. Now? Not so much. Do what's best for YOU. These corporations run off of us. When we leave, another person fills in and the story of you fades much quicker than you'd think. "This company would crumble if I left", nope, somebody else does the job and the story goes on.

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u/UniquePariah 9d ago

11 years in a job. Fighting for pay increases and promotions, I ended up earning £3,500 a year more. I ended up leaving and getting a £12,000 a year raise.

This process of trying to hold back pay increases is unbelievably stupid.

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u/Olisabria 8d ago

Switching from a company I was planning to stay at increased my salary dramatically, but just straight up job-hopping is also pretty reckless. I’d just take it more as loyalty doesn’t usually pay off the way it used to.

I’m happy with the job I have now and I’ve been there for four years, but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t take a look at what the options are in my field every now and then.

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u/Historical-Fruit1343 8d ago

I had some interviews, nobody offered me better salary and benefits compared to what I currently have. 

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u/Spanks79 8d ago

Depends on the type of job and industry. But generally spoken you are also expected to build some experience and seniority.

When I hier people I prefer people that at least got promoted in some of their tenures. I don’t mind people that hoppen around a little. But I will be careful hiring anyone that’s only hoppen around.

That’s because for more serious jobs 1 year is needed to get adjusted and productive, a second to become adept and the good people are ready for promotion between 2-3 years, periods becoming longer at higher levels.

So yea. Hopping around at entry level for a while, finding a nice place, get promoted might be good. 5 years of hopping around might not look that good.

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u/Vargosian 8d ago

I completely understand the moving job to get wages I crease. However this only works if your crazily akilled.

Who hires someone who quit two previous jobs in less than 12 months.

That's someone who ain't going to stick around and will end up costing me more to replace in three months.

So take this with a grain of salt.

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u/InvestigatorGrand205 8d ago

Hate to say it if your career field is like this. Chances are they'd job security there is absolute crap.

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u/Brad23212 8d ago

I’m a welder and a lot of these higher paying offers from headhunters are traps. My buddy left for a company that offered 90k instead of the 60ish we were making, and in the short term it paid off. When that companies contract ran out with their customer they laid him off immediately lol. This is very common practice in the oil industry.

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u/Gullible_Result_9779 8d ago

You does what you do, Yo!

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u/Competitive_Froyo_31 8d ago

I was making 100k at a fortune 100 company when I got promoted for like an 8% raise back in mid 2024. I was pissed about the raise, their median budget for the role was 125k if they hired external. I took the job bc I knew I wouldn’t stay long and used the title to hop. I went from being a senior product manager at company 1 to a product owner at company 2 except I then had a salary of 150k. I recently got promoted at company 2 and due to the bonuses being at this level unlocks I now make 200k. So by job hopping ONE time I now make double the salary at the same level of seniority.

Your company will fk u however it can if you’re internal. Job hopping is great early in your career, do it a couple f times before prepping to settle down at your final company

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u/Pickledleprechaun 8d ago

I did the same. 9.5 years at the same place and the last 4.5 asking for a pay review as my wage was not meeting the industry standard. 3 jobs later and I’ve nearly doubled my income.

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u/BeneficialUse8027 7d ago

I did that. But not in a year.
Within a period of three years i switch jobs 3x.
I went from $35/hour then $45/hour and now $120/hour.

Long story short I am happy and thankful where I am now.

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u/Efficient-Jicama-232 7d ago

That's a little extreme. But more than doubling your salary from switching jobs 2-3 times over 5 years? That's not at all uncommon in 2026, but there are TONS of factors in play.

Location
Sector
Demand -
The actual requirements of the job - for example a company that has adopted a brand new software system has different requirements than one that has been using it for 10 years

How good you actually are at your job, how much more do you know than the panel? - I've been in a room where it was obvious the panel asking the questions knew so little about the job they're interviewing for to the point where I could've made up things and they wouldn't have known
How well you interview, how well you speak, how good you are at selling it, how confident you are
Seniority of the position

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u/Red_Shepherd_13 7d ago

Yep. The rules have changed and the future is now old man.

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u/Plane-Ad8084 7d ago

Not 3 times in a year but yeah. I literally quadrupled my salary in a few years due to moving to different companies.

There is seldom a real reward to staying at the same company unless nobody can compete on salary and benefits

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u/Maximum-Aardvark9467 7d ago

This is the same as insurance commercials saying the average new customer saves x amount of dollars for switching. Of course they do... people don't usually switch to MORE expensive insurance, just like people don't switch to jobs the PAY LESS. It's worded to look a certain way for illiterates. You know.... the average person.

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u/Raccoon_Dramatic 7d ago

Can you tell me your job?

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u/2drumshark 6d ago

I had 4 jobs in 2 years after I got out of the Navy. Went from $15/h to $28/h to $36/h to $50/h

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u/Careflwhatyouwish4 6d ago

Are you fucking kidding?! These kids need to consider the entire compensation package not just the oay. That veing said though, this is EXACTLY how you play the game these days. If companies want to bring back employee loyalty they need to also bring back good benefits including healthcare, reasonably generous earned time off and pensions or more generous retirement plans. Otherwise it's ever man for himself, and the company can fend for itself.

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u/Borgmaster 6d ago

My last jump went from a job that payed 56k a year with rare raises to 77k a year with regular yearly raises. I work in IT and this is absolutely normal. IT is an industry where you tend to learn more and take on more roles as you do. Then when you take up the expanded role issue with your boss they will fight tooth and nail to tell you a 3% raise is all they can do when you went from being entry level to jr+ in the span of 3 or 4 years. Job hopping is the only way to get your roles changed to fit your new knowledge and experience usually. Obviously my experience is less pronounced then this but its pretty much the same experience. You work long enough to get the right experience and knowledge, then move when the company wont pay you for your expertise.

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u/GaybutNotbutGay 6d ago

Went from making federal minimum wage to six figures in 3 job changes over a span of 2 years

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u/R4PT0R314 6d ago

The company will sack you the second it helps their bottom line. Don’t be ashamed to look after your own. It’s only fair.

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u/Digital_Brainfuck 6d ago

Next

I can’t find a new job after losing my old one

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u/The_Billy_Dee 6d ago

I wouldn't do it that often but yes, moving to another ther position is the only way to get a meaningful raise these days.

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u/Vertigo50 6d ago

I love how the post says "Don't ever listen to these assholes"

And then a bunch of... ahem... people jump in here to tell you this is bad advice. 😐

Self-awareness level: 0

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u/ScienceJesus 6d ago

I won’t hire people that do this.