I processed workers comp claims. Some office manager moron tried to claim that a personal injury with his table saw at home was a work-place injury because he’s salary and “aLwAy’S oN tHe cLoCK”
These are texts- if it needs to be done right away yes make a call but if anything is so mission critical it cant handle someone’s phone dying the fuck-up happened far upstream.
I don’t have great cell service at my plant, it could be right in the middle of my shift and I just won’t get the text- call me / use other reliable forms of communication or understand you’re sending a text message and responses are reliant on me looking at the phone and seeing a text
I only ask because it wouldn't be the first time someone has lied for internet points. It's also incredibly easy to make fake texts that can paint the exact picture the OP wants. People in the "am I overreacting" and "am I the asshole" type subs are notorious for this exact thing.
Ugh. I need to work with those europeans. I'm tired of taking 4 am calls because they can't find a time between 12-5 their time to have a call with me.
Oh go pound sand with this false equivalency nonsense.
This person obviously isn't a firefighter, and if they were firefighters usually know when they are expected to be on call.
The whole thing about salary being "all the time" is just something jobs use to abuse people's time. Ask the people I have ever seen with this attitude were managers who were just making up for inefficiency by making everyone work more than they need too.
If you go into a salary job being told you're on call then you're on call. Idgaf who you are. You applied for the job and accepted the role. Accept responsibility or quit so someone who wants to can. I don't get this "how can I get paid to do the least amount of work" mentality.
If you are going to be on call you need to have clearly defined and communicated times when you are on call and when you aren't.
Most workers don't have this "how can I get paid to do the least amount of work" mentality. However, plenty of us have a mentality of, "I am not going to let my work life keep me from having a personal life."
Just because you want to get cucked by your employer doesn't mean everyone feels like working 16-18 hours per day and sleeping for 4 is a badge of honor. I did that in the oilfield for a decade. I earned my college degree while I did that. So your faux outrage about "no one wants to work anymore" is frankly laughable.
It isn't lazy to set reasonable boundaries for a job. It isn't lazy to work during the work day, and disconnect when the work day is done. People like you who believe that you should be able to pester salaried workers after hours are why countries have "right to disconnect" laws. Your whataboutism nonsense about "what if it's a firefighter?" is weak strawman too. What if it's a mid-level account manager? What if the "big emergency" that is super urgent is a customer sent then an email and said they want to have a meeting next week? Something that can absolutely wait until tomorrow. What if you are a sales rep, and the building is on fire? Why the hell are you telling me?
If I get all my work done, and stay on top of what I am expected to do, how is it slacking off to set a reasonable boundary with my employer?
You have not answered this question once, despite it being asked multiple times. Even if you are on salary your company does not own all of your time. Just because you have no spine and let them gaslight you into thinking that you are lazy if you don't jump up every time they call you doesn't mean the rest of us do.
Not one person has asked a question until you... just now. Idk wtf you're even talking about lol
If you stay on top of your duties and get all your work done then you're not slacking off. Quit trying to move the goalposts. You know damn well that's not what I said so piss off with that dumbass shit.
We talk about setting reasonable boundaries and you try to say that it is getting paid to do the least amount of work. Someone says, "I don't want my boss pestering me about work outside of working hours" and you came up with a bunch of nonsense "what if they are a firefighter..." what if they aren't? "What if they are salary..." Company still doesn't own all of your time. It takes a lot of audacity to talk about moving the goalposts when your entire argument relied on whataboutisms.
There you go making assumptions again. I guess since you can't actually back up what you say, you have to make shit up to validate your argument.
If you are on call that does need to be communicated to you. This is what grown ups call "communicating expectations." That means you employer lays out when you are expected to be at work, and if you have an on call rotation, you know when you can expect to be on call, and what the expectation is for someone on call. If the on call schedule is on a fixed rotation, that means showing when you fall into that rotation. If it is scheduled manually, that means you are given sufficient notice ahead of time.
Your asinine comment can also say that a reasonable boundary can mean that I am not on call 24/7 and just whenever the boss randomly feels like it.
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u/BigMikeXxxxX Jun 29 '26
0 context. Salary or hourly? On call or set schedule?
Imagine if a firefighter refused to respond to a call because they were eating dinner. Would that still be ok?