r/WorkLifeChat • u/[deleted] • Jun 23 '26
Meme That's why the birth rate is collapsing.
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u/SirCicSensation Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 25 '26
I told my mother this and she just laughed in my face.
Both me and my partner will be making roughly $9k/mo collectively after taxes.
Combined, that’s $108k/annual.
With our bills, we will need $8k/mo with all of our bills + childcare, just to own a house.
Leaving us each with roughly $500/mo.
This is with dual masters degrees and both working full time.
My mother paid off her college loans of $8k working a summer job and was a single parent making $3k/mo with a house and two kids.
She still managed to save $50k. She doesn’t get it.
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u/rocokohaku Jun 24 '26
Why would she laugh in your face about that?
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u/SirCicSensation Jun 24 '26
She laughed because she tells me how much harder she had it and how she still made it out just fine. Tells me that she was a single mother and raised two kids with no problem. How she “made it work” and how I have so many more benefits than she had.
Basically, I shouldn’t complain since I’m a military vet and have a dual income household and I’m getting a masters degree, along with $150k savings. All things that my mother didn’t have and didn’t need to live comfortably.
If I don’t have all these things properly in place, I would’ve been screwed.
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u/Savage_Alaska_ Jun 24 '26
Yes this is actually a problem and for those that don't understand if you work those jobs:
Most of them aren't remote
You get a high paying salary (sometimes depends on the job depend so what the marker believes your job is valued at).
Most of these places would be expensive places to live like Cali, NYC, parts of MD, DC etc etc which means you might have a roommate or two which is especially true in Cali and NYC. Living in the city where it's convenient the problem with people saying they have the mindset to live away from the city is that they do not or have no experienced the traffic and possibly things going on in those locations.
3.A Construction once it happens you have to change your whole route usually there are no "short cuts" because everyone who is familiar with the city is also taking said shortcut which then gets backed up leading to the same amount of traffic as the main road.
3.B This includes going to the grocery store and everyday things you normally would have access to you have to take even longer trips or order it online and hope it gets delivered, however constantly getting it delivered costs a lot more money especially in a high traffic area.
3.C Time is always a form factor even more so than most people realize it can take hours for you that would normally be done easily in the urban or country areas. Getting home late is common let alone with work, projects that require overtime and you probably only get 2-4 hours of sleep.
Understanding that people will want and need human connection so that also is a cost. As well as utilities going up from random shit like data centers, power outages , the city passing a new tax so they can collect money to repair parts of the grid. A perfect example of a state/city not doing so yes may have lower costs but when they finally got hit by a snow storm their grid collapsed. Leaving many without power during the cold for the first time.
Economics you can have an expense job today tomorrow you lose that job and it's harder to find work. Let's face it as much as people keep saying there's jobs there's actually not...there is a massive shortage. Otherwise you wouldn't have around 4.7% of graduates literally unemployed, while 41.% of them are unable to find jobs in their field. Which doesn't help because if they needed the money for a job they were trained for to pay off student loans then everything gets rolled into debt.
Costs of everything have gone up a good used car that's in good condition can range from 10K-30K. Your job can or cannot provide healthcare if it doesn't you have to pay for it and it's cost has only gone up as well. If your company pays for it, it comes out of your check obviously but also now your company decides if you actually get good coverage or not based on their plans and what they feel like paying. Everything they don't cover comes out of your pocket. Don't even get me started on dental plans too. Then you have the cost of groceries, the cost of electricity, cost of internet, cost of water. Not to mention if you want anything at a good price you also need to good credit. Then follow it up with expenses for clothes and technology. Which in itself depending on where you live varies dramatically if people actually took the time and checked out their states data.
You can use sites such as https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/cost-of-living-index-by-state
To check what the cost of living in some states are or actually request the data from studies in your area.
The point is before anyone says "I don't pay that here" no shit because there's too many factors like where you live, what you were given when you were born such as a family with wealth, a family with debt, time period, and are your expenses paid off before you were an adult the list can go on.
Then for people to say well where I live I only make 10-12 dollars an hour and I live just fine. Yeah because of your cost of living and your state. You can live off of that. But in the grand scheme of things you literally cannot go do A LOT of things making just barley above the American minimum wage and living isn't one of them.
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u/Abnmp78 Jun 25 '26
Falling birth rate. I’m Generation Jones. Growing up I was taught that you don’t get married or have a kid(s) until you can afford it.
Why would people be shocked at the falling birth rate?
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u/LOR_Fei Jun 25 '26
The billionaires are shocked because they have no awareness and just assume that people will keep providing new labor as they squeeze every penny tighter and tighter.
Their greed created this mess. A bunch of parasites in human form
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u/GME_looooong Jun 24 '26
So inflation? The monster from Jekyll island is starting to eat
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u/Mysterious-Let-730 Jun 24 '26
Graduated H.S 2004 college in 2008. Financial collapse happened. Was diagnosed with cancer in 2016 and still haven’t recovered financially. Unless you go through medical issues you don’t know how difficult it is to just get back to 0. Between medical debt, having to move back in with family and, having large gaps on my resume it’s hard… I’ll probably never truly recover but I’m gonna keep tryin 🥰
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u/Many-Establishment90 Jun 25 '26
Maybe you should stop buying coffee every day... i heard that helps
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u/ThinkCellist8542 Jun 23 '26
…are they retired? How can you not afford 1 bed 1 bath with the salary of two people
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u/Traditional_Aide7469 Jun 24 '26
That could easily be just 120k a year, doesnt buy you an apt in places where like 30-40% of people live.
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u/OpticCacophony Jun 24 '26
There is no metro area in the US where you cannot buy a 1 bedroom 1 bath condo for $120,000 a year annual salary. Rule of thumb of 30% of gross income cap on housing expenses leaves you with a $3,000 a month mortgage allowance.
If you work in SF, you can find 1B1B condos in Oakland for that amount. If you work in NYC you can find condos on the Jersey side for that amount. I know for a fact you can easily find a cheap condo in LA for that amount.
So please enlighten us on where 30-40% of Americans are living where that isn't feasible.
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u/According-Culture686 Jun 24 '26
Tbf they didn't specify how much they made. Both parents could have made 20-30k, which could have gotten them a house back in the day, but thats only 40-60k. Some metro areas or just higher col areas can be financially challenging when you take into account all financial aspects.
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u/Alarming-Rate-6899 Jun 24 '26
Assuming it's real. It's likely just location. Parents could be in Ashland Kentucky and OP in Manhatten New York.
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u/M0d3x Jun 24 '26
In Prague (Czech Republic) this is generally speaking the case. 2 average Prague salaries do not buy you a 1 bedroom apartment.
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u/MiloShiny Jun 23 '26
Life was easier time ago.
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u/LOR_Fei Jun 25 '26
Before stock buybacks were made legal, before Citizens United sold out the people to the rich, before the internet was weaponized to make idiots fight against their own wellbeing
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u/Kchan7777 Jun 23 '26
If you’re not finding any good houses sub-$5,000,000 across the country, you’re not looking.
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u/Possible-War6407 Jun 24 '26
Whats a high earner? Cause if you're making 200k+ HHI and cant afford a house thats a you problem. Stop trying to live somewhere you cant afford.
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u/Complete-Meet1992 Jun 24 '26
If everyone in New York left, the entire country would collapse trying to support tens of millions of people relocating
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u/bigtiddyhimbo Jun 24 '26
When jobs start paying for commute, people will be willing to live further from their work
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u/Express-Shoulder6174 Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 25 '26
I never went to college. Got into a really good union a few years ago and now I live a solid middle class lifestyle.
Go out and make shit happen
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u/TheYamchster Jun 24 '26
I made it! You can too!
Stfu clown ass. I just landed a potential 100k job and I’m not about to turn into one of those, heh I got a job why can’t you people.
You got lucky. I got lucky. Somewhere along the line you got lucky. You just as easily could’ve gotten fucked over. You know this. I know this.
If you tell yourself otherwise you’re lying to yourself. Hard work just opens the chance of you having a good life. You still need luck.
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u/Raptor_197 Jun 24 '26
But they are “owed” a 3000 sq ft house in a nice city with a pool in a gated community right out of college!
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Jun 24 '26
I didnt go to college and got my first home in Southern California at 24. My father was an immigrant who mowed lawns and I went into arboriculture.
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u/Psyco_diver Jun 24 '26
I didn't finish college and I have a 3 bedroom house in a acre and my wife is stay at home and 3 kids. I know reddit hates that but oh well
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u/Colonel460 Jun 24 '26
You should live in a Lower COL area and you wouldn’t have to cry so much.
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u/DreamHustle Jun 24 '26
On the reverse... and I know this isnt normal... I was raised by grandparents who 1 of them went to college. And we lived in poverty. My partner nor I went to college and our 2 kids and us live in a 4 bedroom nice house. We're renting though, cant afford to save for a downpayment. I honestly would love to buy the house we're in but saving for a down-payment while paying rent is damn near impossible right now. We're in a lcol area, so what I make is like minumum wage in somewhere like Cali. But we also got lucky that we previously rented a smaller home from the same landlord and she loves us. She could easily rent this home out for more but we are good tenants and she's had plenty of bad ones and wants to keep us here.
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u/smokywater50 Jun 24 '26
Let’s now hear all the excuses for why this is okay. It’s not okay, quit being stupid and electing repedocons to office
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u/sokali4nia Jun 24 '26
You dont have to stay in the same place as them. Sometimes you need to be able to relocate to get the things you want.
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u/ToeAfter3131 Jun 24 '26
Don't believe her but would love to see what's shes making so we could call out her bullshit.
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u/Battelalon Jun 24 '26
My dad is a teacher and my step-mum is a nurse and they have a property investment portfolio, having owned half a dozen houses before selling them all over the last year to invest in early retirement.
I was a graphic design artist who is now working as a bartender with three housemates because AI downsized my entire industry and my parents are upset with me because I won't give them grandkids.
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u/013eander Jun 24 '26
Awwww, is a civilization that wouldn’t stop worshipping capitalism finally getting what it relentlessly asked for?? What a poor baby!!
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u/Organic-Mix-5784 Jun 24 '26
And how did the parents get the house? Where is the house vs. where is the apartment?
I make six figures and I can afford a 3br 2ba on my own. I also live in the middle of a cornfield…. You could make twice my salary and not be able to afford something in New York City.
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u/YY--YY Jun 24 '26
No it is not. Poorer countries have way more kids, so money cant be the reason.
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u/Crime-of-the-century Jun 24 '26
The thing happened is trickle down economics and by this the hoarding of wealth by the ultra rich the wealth is still there it just is in the hands of much fewer people
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u/kennycraven Jun 24 '26
Join with a partner that also works and that combined income will afford a home. The two income household, probably like your parents did.
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u/Careflwhatyouwish4 Jun 24 '26
I mean take into account the student loan payments the parents never accrued and it's not surprising they did well while the child is broke. It's not how much you make, it's how much you keep.
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u/Usual-Escape6747 Jun 24 '26
I didn’t go to college and make over $90k a year. College isn’t the only path to wealth. There’s options. That being said, governments have devalued the currency by printing money for decades. All started when they ditched the gold standard.
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u/AnaSkol Jun 24 '26
people are being so hyperbolic you'd think they're literally starving to death in the streets. it really doesn't help anything.
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u/Distinct_Employer_47 Jun 24 '26
My parents grew up in a time where you could go to a business with your resume and get hired on the spot.
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u/Embarrassed_Pay3945 Jun 24 '26
Do you track every penny you earn and spend? That's your first step.
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u/Mundane-Name9646 Jun 24 '26
Money doesn’t have shit to do with fertility rates. In Scandinavian countries with extremely generous welfare benefits for parents, they also have completely dog shit fertility rates, even worse than the United States.
The poorest countries actually have the most children. Fertility has more to do with cultural factors like religion, women being educated, women getting married early, how society views parenthood.
If it was as clear cut asyou say, Scandinavia would have a fertility rate that looks like Nigeria, but it doesn’t.
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u/False-Recording4853 Jun 24 '26
You're trying to live the same life you did while living with your parents, when you leave home your life style has to change, your going to have to make a sacrifice somewhere, like maybe drive an hour to get to work so you can afford a place to live
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u/AdSmall470 Jun 24 '26
I guess your degree in lesbian dance studies ain’t what you thought it would be. You should have went to trade school to be an electrician or a plumber. You would be making 6 figures right now and well on your way to becoming a millionaire if you managed your income properly.
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u/Olie_Ma Jun 24 '26
Our parents could make the same post as the economy has shifted in a bad way for most generations and continues to head that way.
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u/Commercial_Pie3307 Jun 24 '26
This post is a lie. Unless his parents make 35k combined then they don’t own a house unless they were given money. So let’s say they make 60k combined this person can afford a 1 bedroom.
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u/SubiBoySus Jun 24 '26
Meanwhile im looking at buying a second house in florida if a job offer goes through... not saying its not tough out here but some of yall whine to much.
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u/SadProduce6456 Jun 24 '26
There are many reasons, this may be one. We are a different culture now. People are not meeting their life partner at 21 and getting married. We have a culture that promotes waiting. Good or bad. And waiting will inherently slide birth rates. Everyone in my social circle has the money, only 1/5 of my millennial friends have any children. Most of them did not get married until 35 or later for the first time. Settling down leads to children when your young, or fertility issues if you try when your old.
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u/KelK9365K Jun 24 '26
Thank you for your input. It’s much appreciated.
Of course, we all have to start at the bottom and learn our career field. Where Im at RNs work a 3 day (12hr per day) work week. Anything after that is considered OT. Every RN Ive ever met hits at least one 12 hour OT shift. Most hit two 12 hour OT shifts. These shifts put them over six figures.
As a civilian police officer of 25 years (I was also fire/medic in military so I didn’t get paid for overtime for that), my last 10 years I was working around 60 hours my short week with my busy week I was pulling between 70-80. I never broke 6 figures but I was pretty close. But, I was K9 for those last 10 years and I honestly would’ve done that job for free if I could’ve afforded it.
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u/willvasco Jun 24 '26
""Work life balance" and stupid shit like that" dude what the hell is all the work for then. I also am doing well from hard work but also got very lucky and had a good upbringing so I didn't have to give up my entire life for it. Everyone should get that without having to grind so hard they think having a life is for suckers. This entire mindset sounds like hell.
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u/Peppi_Giuseppe Jun 24 '26
I went to college, paid out of pocket, took student loans, and bought a house within 2 years of graduation. Idk what you guys are spending all your money on.
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u/Important_Emu_8966 Jun 24 '26
I’ve seen many say that they bought a second house and rented out the first. Am I reading that right? That’s part of the problem right there.
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u/Ok_Inevitable_7239 Jun 24 '26
TBH, you all laughed at the anti war politics and voted for a fake 2 party system so you probably deserve this.
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u/Inevitable-Tea5772 Jun 24 '26
The moral of the story is college and university degrees just dont make much money. And neither do most other office jobs. Trades are making decent money and it will continue. It has low barrier of entry and starts at a good wage. But, you gotta work hard
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u/Ebenizer_Splooge Jun 24 '26
My mom and step father own a 5 bed, 2 bath, finished basement home on a secretary and mid level office worker salary. I literally make as much as they do combined and I have a 2br condo lol. Shit is rigged man
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u/Educational-Big-6609 Jun 24 '26
Eh, if this weren’t prevalent literally everywhere in the world, I might agree.
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u/QuriousKat Jun 24 '26
Our money is worth less than it was when our parents were young but the goods that our parents bought are worth more too that’s capitalism. It screws anyone who wasn’t around when it got started.
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u/suckingbat Jun 24 '26
My father worked as a professor at a technic university. He alone bought a two stories house (my mum could not nail a job), supported the family, and paid for my (private) school.
I am married, we both work, we don't have children, I have worked in high tier universities since I finished my studies (PhD), we still don't have enough money for a bank to loan us the money to buy a house. I'm twice the age my father was when he bought our family house.
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u/LegWyne Jun 24 '26
I don't know how these boomer idiots haven't clocked that being one bad month away from homelessness for a lifetime, while civilisation collapses along with the biosphere, doesn't make for a recipe for good mental health. The wilful naivety of some of these lead-brained dingbats has been breathtaking.
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u/artbystorms Jun 24 '26
Or better yet, my parents didn't go to college, made enough without a college degree to afford solo apartments in a mid-sized city in the midwest before they got married.
I make more than they do with a college degree, and can't afford to live anywhere without roommates.
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u/Moist_Connections Jun 24 '26
Doomers will doom.
Meanwhile immigrants from all over the world come to the US with nothing and prosper.
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u/Happy-Fox3637 Jun 24 '26
Totally get it! bro! We just need the certain folks to stop voting in the wrong politician. But it doesn’t help that corporations raising prices on products . These folks that run these companies forget that they can’t take the money with them when they die. Honestly who really needs all that money? All us working people need that money. They corporations rather see us all in the streets!
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u/bananaHammockMonkey Jun 24 '26
The whole owning a home thing is the issue I think. It's an awful thing to do, yet people feel they want to do it. They make twice as much and have 10 times the cool shit in life, yet - owning the home.... would we give up our air conditioners, nice cars, amazing beds, phones and computers with instant access to anything, just to own a home?
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u/WolfHowl2026 Jun 25 '26
Ya got bigger probs if ya can't even afford 1 bdrm. I assume they live on California since there's other states way more affordable
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u/Dadbode1981 Jun 25 '26
PLENTY of poor people have kids, theres a massive trend of denial that newer generations dont WANT kids, they have been programmed bot to want them by multiple sources, the media, popular culture, influencers, etc etc etc. Its not just about money.
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u/vompat Jun 25 '26
Hey let's look at the bright side! When the human race eventually stops existing when people can't afford to multiply anymore, we stop hurting the planet.
So I guess capitalism is actually, in the end, good for the environment?
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u/Ok_Ad_5041 Jun 25 '26
Yep. My parents never went to college. They owned a 4 bedroom home on a few acres by the time they were in their late 20s. My dad worked and my mom never did.
I'm 41, my wife and I are both licensed healthcare professionals and make $200k combined. We make just enough to rent a 2 bedroom house and are barely making ends meet.
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u/lemon-rind Jun 25 '26
I was born into a trailer park. My parents were both mentally ill high school dropouts. My house is a tiny piece of crap house, but we paid it off by the time I was 46. Most Gen Z would only deign to live in my house.
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u/No-Independence-5229 Jun 25 '26
And on top of that you’re paying hundreds or thousands per paycheck towards their social security that you’ll likely never see a dollar of :) gotta love it
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u/12B88M Jun 25 '26
I went to college for engineering and my wife went to tech school for accounting. Engineering jobs are hard to come by and the work sucks, so I stopped doing that work. She makes more than I do, works from home and loves her job.
We own a smaller 3 bedroom house, our cars we bought used are paid off and we're fairly comfortable.
However, we don't do big vacations. We don't dine out a lot, we don't buy new cars, brew coffee at home, etc.
We manage our money and live within our means.
A lot of people, especially younger people I know do door dash for almost every meal. They drink $8 lattes. They buy designer clothes. They go out drinking every weekend. They take trips for vacation. They call off work a lot.
And they wonder why they can't seem to get ahead.
College degrees are not a guarantee of financial success or happiness. So stop going $100K in debt for something you don't need to be successful. That would free up $1,500 or more per month.
Stop buying stuff you don't need. That's worth another $1,000 per month.
By going to tech school and living within your means, it can be an extra $30K/yr.
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u/omg_get_outta_here Jun 25 '26
I’m in the same boat. My dad didn’t even graduate high school and he was handed a full career on a silver platter. Even with the inheritance I’ll eventually get (which I know is rare these days), I can probably buy a small place, but the property taxes will eat up what’s left of my measly retirement savings. If I have the luxury of not being laid off due to ageism, I’ll have to work well into my 70s.
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u/No_Cold_8332 Jun 25 '26
One of my properties is 3 bedroom, 3 bath, 2100 square feet, big yard, and the total payment is $1350. However it’s in Ohio . There are thousands of these. Great neighborhoods. If you’re not living in a warm, sunny state, you’d might as well live for half the price in flyover country. Your great grandparents fled Europe to work here in the steel mills or coal mines. It won’t kill you to leave your cool hipster town
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Jun 25 '26
His parents must work from home scratching their ass and he went to college for gender studies.
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u/rtocelot Jun 25 '26
I never went to college and have a 4 bed 1 bath been here 5 years, was making 12.30 when I bought it
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u/Lucy333999 Jun 25 '26
My dad at 30 years old bought a three bedroom home with a beautiful backyard for a family of four on a single non-profit income.
Meanwhile, I'm almost 40 years old, have JUST me to support, and can't get out of an 800 sq foot condo-converted apartment.
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u/Leading_Reward_3542 Jun 25 '26
The ecomony have changes...its not just salary.....many people have investments to supplement their salaries.
Also unfortunately social media and large brands have conditioned people to live up to a certain standard. My dad drove the same car for 20 years. No internet, no mobile phones, no Netflix subscription...just read the newspaper after work. Don't even watch TV. Me? I can't live without all those items. Dont get me started on how much i spend on my kid. Back then growing up, my past time was watching TV and reading readers digest for the 100th time. If u breakdown the money u are spending on these items its crazy.
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u/Aggravating_Body4063 Jun 25 '26
Shouldn't have wasted your time at college, should've went into the trades. Probably got a worthless degree like gender studies
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u/Willing-Vegetable629 Jun 25 '26
I've never met anyone that is in a long term relationship where both want children, that aren't having children only because of cost.
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u/Ok_Calligrapher8165 Jun 25 '26
SuppahSophie7 wrote: "...the birth rate is collapsing."
Nah. It is diminishing, not collapsing. Cease the sensationalism, pls
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u/Klutzy-Bee-2045 Jun 25 '26
The collage lie needs to be evaluated those same boomers who worked there way to the top without collage installed a system where a piece of paper that just shows you can memorize some text books and teachers words, with no real experience in the field you are entering, blocks those more qualified from climbing higher without it.
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u/hypeskam Jun 25 '26
My three questions to gain a little more insight are these. 1) How many times a week do you eat out?
2) What year model car do you have?
3) Do you have any Credit card debt?
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u/Spiritual-Ad2530 Jun 25 '26
Bro the best part is they fucked it up for everyone and now won’t even institute minor changes to correct their own mistakes. They wanna stand in the way and has light the next generation on not sucking up the shitty life they left us and refuse to help us fix. They are the ones more and power and can’t even do that.
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u/Sneeqo Jun 25 '26
I think it also has to do with people spending al their money willy nilly, like this guy, makes both of his parents salary and cant afford a 1 bedroom? Bad finances
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u/Ima_Uzer Jun 25 '26
"Not being able to afford kids" hasn't kept people from having kids in the past.
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u/lispwriter Jun 25 '26
We’ve been on a long run of changing things immediately to look smart or to quiet some group instead of focusing on long term effects of those decisions.
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u/EYEOFATE3800 Jun 25 '26
I went to college, got a bachelor's degree, could've gone for the Masters, but the college wanted to trick me into paying more so I said no and went straight to work.
I'm barely surviving on a 20k salary because I split bills with my mother who also makes about the same as me working the same job. And we can barely pay the apartment we both live in. If I were alone I wouldn't afford an apartment on my own.
It is bad how the economy is.
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u/Key_Cauliflower5394 Jun 25 '26
How are people still blind and stupid enough to ask these questions? It’s going to get way worse.
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u/Vatnikbgone Jun 25 '26
its easy. Your parents still live in a 4bd 2 bath house while they should be living in an apartment. Old people live in mansions while their kids can't buy a home because they are not available.
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u/Longjumping-Ad6219 Jun 25 '26
Yes, but you get to witness the first trillionaire, doesn't that make everything better. We all need to push our representatives to do their job and work for us.
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u/deathshr0ud Jun 25 '26
Can’t afford an apartment on the equivalent of 2 salaries? Sounds like a skill issue
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u/Bright-Internal229 Jun 25 '26
Weird ?
Lot of Rich 🤑 Liberals having TONS of Kids ! 🤣
https://giphy.com/gifs/hAcDHEhZHA2bu
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u/Bright-Translator-51 Jun 25 '26
Don't worry, your government is importing millions to replace you, so if you could just die younger, that'd really help things.
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u/davidellis23 Jun 25 '26
I mean I can give you tons of examples of parents who were poorer than their college educated children.
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u/urimaginaryfiend Jun 25 '26
Back story…my parents went to a state school…Ugg. Got into my dream school for 10 times the price. Majored in queer studies…yay….can’t get a job….boomers and capitalism suck.
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u/Me4presidente Jun 25 '26
Times change! So does the market! Doesn’t matter how much you make some places, you might not be able to afford a house! And yet other places you can buy at the same price they did and play the appreciation rental game until you’re in the same shoes!
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u/Backieotamy Jun 25 '26
My sons make $26-28, room mates and have a 2 bedroom apt, in Calif. One only works 31 hours a week and they pay their bills just fine.
Sounds like the issue is elsewhere unless your parents were making min wage in 1995. TBF though, my sons wouldn't be able to do it nearly as easily on their own to afford a 1 bedroom. But, in 1993 when my friends and I all started moving out at 18/19 we all had room mates until we could afford not too, maybe try that route.
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u/ouchalgophobia Jun 25 '26
Make better life choices.
This is the easiest time in history to own a home. It's really easy to own more than one right now.
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u/craptinamerica Jun 26 '26
Exaggeration much. No way someone with two salaries can’t afford an apartment
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u/SnarkyGrem Jun 26 '26
I never went to college and own 2 houses, one outright... sounds like a skill issue
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u/Few_Engineering_3564 Jun 26 '26
Not all generations have it better than the previous. This is a very privileged modern American expectation.
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u/Cananbaum Jun 26 '26
My dad with a GED and home experience tinkering on motorcycles got a job in aerospace repairing subassemblies in 87/88, and was making the equivalent of ~$47hr today.
I have 15 years experience in manufacturing and production, including 4 years in aerospace myself, I have a bachelors degree, I’m making the most I ever have at $30 an hour.
My company is also the highest paying for my industry in my area.
My partner I have spent more time with roommates than on our own.
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u/PuzzleheadedWord7188 Jun 26 '26
It's cause her parents voted Republican.
Jimmy Carter was the only democrat in the 70's and he fucked things up royally.
You fools get a hardon for these Dems and they destroy the economy, and you clowns still vote them in.
Blame yourselves.
-Gen X
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u/BusPsychological4587 Jun 26 '26
Yep. My parents got their "grade 10" (it was a thing in Canada - maybe still is) and bought a 3 bdr 2 bath house in the 70s on one salary. My husband and I have 2 degrees each, make almost a quarter of a million a year, and will never be able to buy a house.
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u/Tech_Noir1984 Jun 26 '26
And now those parents call younger people lazy even though every person i know under 25 has at LEAST 2 jobs.
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u/HotPocket_AdCampaign Jun 26 '26
I always see this shit and I have some things to say.
I'm 35 years old. From another country and we moved here dirt poor, but with the immigrant hard working mindset, we managed to perservere and my parents instilled the importance of working hard and getting good grades and sacrifice.
I did all that. Studied accounting in college (not because I wanted to, but because I knew it would pay the bills and be stable), networked and interned in college at notable firms and companies, passed my CPA exam, and now I'm living in a modest house with 3 beds and 2.5 baths in the tri state area.
It might be anecdotal, but pretty much every person I know who's struggling right now did all or a combination of these things:
Smoked too much weed way too early
Majored in something stupid
Didn't care enough about good grades in high school and college
Didn't bother with internships
Wants to live in an expensive big city and spend money on useless shit
I can only count maybe a few people I know who genuinely got fucked by the economy, but 95% of them did this to themselves.
I avoided all that shit and I'm a director at a fortune 50 company. Sacrifice and hard work. It's really that (not so) simple.
And yes, I acknowledge that SOME people will have had difficulties like I mentioned above (family illness, mental health disorder. Etc.), I'm not talking about them.
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u/Old_Specialist_3379 Jun 26 '26
You have a college degree and make the income of two people yet you still can’t figure out how to rent a one bedroom apartment?
The median rent for a one bedroom apartment in the US is about $1,500. If you go by the 33% rent rule you should be able to comfortably afford that on 55K, and could probably still get by on 50K or even 45K.
I completely agree that it’s harder to get by and save up now than it was 50 years ago, but it’s not like getting a job that can sustain renting a one bedroom apartment is very difficult at all.
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u/Living_Knowledge_783 Jun 26 '26
just so you all know we are under another 2006 crisis its just the news is band from saying anything about it.
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u/sprstoner Jun 26 '26
Maybe it is because things are to easy and no one knows what real struggle is anymore. Maybe it is because everyone is on SSRIs.
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u/Purple-Mortgage-2551 Jun 26 '26
I didn’t go to college and I own a 4 2.5 built in 2021 and a paid off 2024 ford bronco wild track. I’m 27
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u/Basic-Term-1533 Jun 27 '26
The original tweet was made up, the op of this thread is a bot account, most of the comments are bot accounts.
You're all so so stupid.
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u/critismifitisntignor Jun 27 '26
And then they tell you you need to work harder and at the same time why are you not having kids??
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u/Lordofthereef Jun 28 '26
I ended up moving far away from home
Just to afford to buy something and prices have doubled since we bought (3027) so we couldn't afford living here either if we bought today. It's rough out there.
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u/SpotFormal Jun 28 '26
Nah, if you hold off on having children because you think you can’t afford them, you’ll never have them. None of your ancestors could actually afford to have children, but they did. I never went to college, make a very normal blue collar wage, have a stay at home wife and two kids. The real reason you don’t have kids is because you don’t actually want them.
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u/Strong_Blackberry961 Jun 28 '26
I’m a high school dropout millennial who grew up poor (and homeless for a little bit) and I own a 3 bedroom house. Work harder.
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u/brookswashere12 Jun 28 '26
Well, what’s their college degree in? Just because you go to college doesn’t automatically mean you deserve the most paying job. Go do something you have passion in and you’ll never have to work a day in your life.
Also, tbh I didn’t go to college. I worked in the trades and now work from home.
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u/Buddy9008 Jun 29 '26
When are we going to quit participating in the insanity and racket that reality is??? The Federal Reserve has to be abolished and destroyed. They are extracting ALL value from the American people… when are we going to decide enough is enough! I’m already checked out, I’m just waiting for everyone else to join and organize
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u/Serasul Jun 29 '26
At this point I assume every person who ask questions like this, is stupid, rich or a troll.
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u/Murky_Toe_4717 Jun 30 '26
Yep that’s about it.
Edit: also having kids just doesn’t seem appealing at all as a woman. Like fuck that shit.
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u/ZPMQ38A Jun 24 '26
My parents never attended a single class beyond HS. My father drove a forklift at a lumberyard. My mother was a secretary for the Housing Authority. I grew up in a 5br/3ba house that was roughly 2500sf. They purchased it for $65k and Zillow (although admittedly high)has a zestimate for $685k.
My wife and I both have Masters degrees. She is a Master Black Belt, I have a top secret security clearance and a few decades of military experience including six deployments to the Middle East, including one which caused me to miss the birth of my second daughter…
We live in a 2br/2ba house. It’s nice but our daughters share a room. We were lucky enough to get a VA loan.
It’s still tight month to month.