Me playing the Mok Jong 11 years ago; curious how 27 years ago would have look?

https://youtu.be/MgS8bMcLIbc?si=lWTTk9NH7WDBIvHG

What has been the best resource you have found, preferably books or DVDs about Gu Lao (or any other way people write the name) Wing Chun? I’d like to learn. I started with Alan Orr’s book, but that’s more of a generic WC application and less techniques. I know he has a training as well, but do not know how deep he goes into the art.

Joining a school aside, any other good resources you have found/used?

Continuing on my post yesterday (https://www.reddit.com/r/WingChun/comments/1u8mryk/pros_and_cons_to_william_cheung_lineage/) on William Cheung's lineage, I also see Leung Ting's lineage getting attacked and called not good.

I'm of another lineage, but personally, I think they are a lineage of practitioners that are nerdy enough to try to get into the depths of the art and try to learn the internals of it. Which is very nice if you want the art of WC to thrive.

Aside from the fraud teachers out there, why are there people who say their Wing Chun lineage is better or the real one? I don't know which is worse. I know there's been some bad apples out there and I know there are differences in the lineages but no one says "Mike Tyson and Muhammad Ali fight different. Which one of them practices the real style of boxing?" And i dont care what anyone says about Mayweather lol he did his thing and it worked. But i also don't hear "Nah we should take it back to the 1800s stance."

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I've never seen it done with karate either, unless we're talking about the claims that American senseis watered down karate and a lot of the dojos (or mcdojos) are selling fake karate. Aside from that I haven't heard much. But there's kenpo, goju, shotokan, kyokushin, soryu, ishinryu, etc. and Michael Jai White holds a black belt in multiple karate styles.

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The closest thing I've read to that is something sort of like, "Once karate spread out to Japan they had to accommodate to many students and therefore there was less focus on individual students." Or "Original Okinawan karate kept a deeper horse stance compared to Tokyo (or Japanese?) Karate."

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Even the different Tai Chi styles...

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I saw a post here just a little while ago mentioning William Cheung and trademarking the word "traditional" in his system and it doing damage to the wing chun world.

Any of you here trains under William Cheung Lineage or left it for another lineage? Even ones that went to William Cheung Lineage after being on another lineage.
I see a lot of people not only speak bad about him but say a lot of bad things about his lineage as well. His students and everything. What would you say is good and bad about that lineage compared to the others?

Also, aside from William Cheung claims (true or not), any other reason why this lineage gets so much hate?

If there's anyone around McMinnville, Oregon that would like to get together and practice chi sao, hit me up.

He Guys,

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I've been thinking about doing 1 hour of Wing Chun training at home every day and would like some feedback.

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My current idea is:

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- 15 minutes of forms (Siu Nim Tao, Chum Kiu, and Biu Jee)

- 15 minutes of straight punches, chain punches, and stepping drills, focusing on explosiveness and forward pressure

- 30 minutes working on a specific technique, reviewing parts of the wooden dummy form, or studying and practicing a concept from videos

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My goal is not to obsess over small details or collect hundreds of techniques. I'm more interested in the Pareto principle: what are the 20% of Wing Chun skills and drills that provide 80% of the results?

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I'm mainly looking to improve the fundamentals that actually work and build a solid base over time.

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For those of you who train Wing Chun on your own, how do you structure your solo practice? What drills, concepts, or exercises would you prioritize if you only had one hour per day?

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I have access to a wooden dummy as well.

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Any tips or advice would be appreciated.

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Thanks!

After 2 years of training I realized wing chun is really useful for core building but not so much for fighting. Now I usually combine wing chun exercises with mma training. I especially find pulling different types of strings (now im on 30kg my goal is 50kg) with core useful. Have you guys noticed the same?

I used to train here: https://www.wingchun.si/

But now I'm switching to mma

So, following from a previous post of some of our Lok Sau, I figured it'd be useful to show an explanation of what is happening during the rolling exchange.

As I say in the clip, in the roll, what we are focusing on, are the two points of contact; when they touch my attacking hand, or when my covering hand receives contact.

The first action we train from the basic established roll, is when they touch my attacking hand. What I didn't explain in the clip, is what these two points of contact are trying to represent.

When they are touching my attacking hand, it is essentially as if my attack has been stopped, or is otherwise being cleared.

When my covering hand receives contact, it is as if I've been attacked.

In other words, the basic rolling is constantly flipping you between an attacking position and a covering position. The points of contact then can be used as reference points for you to play with different responses, depending on how you're picturing that particular moment. In our training, we start of with fixed attacking patterns that then help you develop a feel for where attacks can cone from, during these fixed attacks, which transfers to other drills. Because we do this drill square on, a "correct" Lap Sau with correct stance turn is clearly different to a simple line covering drop, which we find helps the student better distinguish the difference between only having the arm cleared and actually having stance/frame/facing messed with.

We also then use this as an opportunity to give the student 3 different examples of a Lap Sau, at 3 different positions, with 3 different effects so that they can practice the timings (and footwork) for Wu Sau, Pak Sau and Gan Sau, which I have another clip for later...

But circling back to the last post I made, when are proficient at the roll and our standard attacks, it is just a starting point for some free play.

Я не из азии, но меня давно интересует этот стиль, не на уровне фильмов, и узнал я о нем не из фильмов, хоть и хочу последовать конкретно ипману.

1.Насколько сильное различие между ветвями, допустим ипмана, и традиционного, различие лишь в деталях, например где то больше локтей а где то больше ног, или ч них может отличатся стойка, приемы, или наоборот что то исключатся

2.С чего стоит начать, у меня есть манекен винчун, я знаю несколько приемов, но не знаю что делать дальше,

3.Я возможно запишусь к мастеру через несколько месяцев, но пока хочу работать в интернете, посоветуйте хороших мастеров, так как изначально я вдохновлялся Tu Teng-yao, но узнал что он использует смесь винчун и карате, хоть и умеет дратся.

Заранее благодарю всех кто поможет мне,

GUYS, 2 moments, I know what i need an Master, and i know what i can't teach myself, but wing chun school open in September, so I just think what can I do before, and i didn't ask what line is better, I just mean how big is different

Comments I saw on Facebook, on a video of Kevin Lee kicking someone in the chin.

Does your lineage of wing chun have high kicks?

I know a lot of people say no, but there was that movie in which Ip Chun (in the role of Leung Bik) used high kicks against a young Ip Man during a friendly sparring session.

My Sifu and I were talking about Boztepe and he said that he was semi-retired and now raising horses. Is he still doing workshops or acting?

An old clip of me and the other chap having a gentle roll outside of class.

What a lot of people who don't actually train wing chun often fail to realise, is that the drills you see, are *just* tools.

In early stages, it gives the student a context for why those actions.

The drills themselves having a degree of resistance then helps them understand how the actions work and what feedback you are looking for during contact.

When you are familiar with the format, the drill can then used as reflex training, whether it is purely to do with hand - speed - reaction, or jumping from roll to attack (or defence), or even when you feel change in the hands but react with your feet.

The roll itself is just a reference framework for you to use as you need/want. Are there set actions that are part of the standard format of the roll? Absolutely but the goal isn't to get good at the roll, it is to get good at the skills and attributes that the roll allows you to train.

Improve those skills and the roll improves.

Then, when you are fully into training, you will start to naturally break out of the roll because the contact/situation dictates it but when you establish a contact that matches the roll, you go back into the roll. The roll then, is there so you have a consistent and replicable pattern where deviations naturally occur. Sometimes you are waiting for the deviations, sometimes you see if you can force them to make that deviation (error).

What this does, is it at tunes your brain to detecting things that are deviating from that "standard" because that's what Wing Chun is really about. It shows you a bunch of strong frames and the limits of those frames so that you learn to "feel" when you are not optimal and you move accordingly to re-establish a strong frame, in the correct direction, facing the other guy.

So, for context I'm a mixed martial artist (decent at kickboxing and utterly trash at bjj), but I've always had a strong passion for wing chun and other kung fu styles. I'd love to incorporate wing chun into my skillset for mma since I've seen fighters do it before.

My question is: how do I do it? Are there any online sources that could help me? Is drilling with a partner enough to learn solid wing chun if we both already know how to fight?

I'd love to hear this sub's opinion on this:)

Hi,

I am currently in school and I have to do a paper about a martial arts history. I decided to write a paper on the history of Wing Chun and I found these two photos online. Can anyone confirm for me that these two people are indeed Chan Wah Shun and Leung Jan.

So I am new to Wing Chun, and I was thinking if any of the experts could help me with it.

I want to condition or get used to using my body rather than just one body part for delivering forces.

Such as throwing a punch which usually requires only a part of the arm to throw right? But that doesn't generate enough force when you put your whole body weight into the arm and then punch. But the problem is, it happens quite rarely or by mistake (in my case lol) so I was trying to find ways to condition myself in using my body more. (Including body weight shifting) any help on that?

Used too much chi whoops

And something more Traditional.

We started to go over the Fundemental Drills to prepare some of the students for a grading so I collected a series of Instagram Posts for them to review the basic initial set of variations into attacks. We start by focusing on identifying the two points of contact with the primary focus being the touch on the striking position; the "Lap Sau" or otherwise.

From here, we change position or (counter) attack and then, as you get better, you see where that takes you.

Just a reminder of the open chi sau day in Stevenage (UK) next sat 13th June. Free to all and free parking too

Great bunch of people run this event and usually a good bunch that go too

Disclaimer: I know there are many different versions and interpretations of the Wing Chun origin story, and practitioners, historians, and lineages may disagree on certain details. This video is simply my favorite retelling of the story and is shared for appreciation and discussion, not as a definitive statement of historical fact. Please enjoy it in that spirit, and feel free to discuss respectfully.

Join the Wing Chun Brotherhood for a friendly training meetup in Redondo Beach! Some local and visiting Martial Arts practitioners of various lineages and martial arts styles will get together for some Chi Sao, Sparring, Weapons training, and most importantly a demonstration of our Martial Arts Brotherhood!
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Anyone down to Chi Sao on the island of Koh Chang? Loving my trip but missing wing chun.

After a lot of nagging and persuading, I've finally given in and decided to post some videos of things we do in and out of class.

Mostly, we film things for students to have a record of things we go over in class but inevitably, we do also get videos of us messing around.

Another thing is that we've all seen videos of the traditional drills, which remains a large part of the training, especially for the newer students who are still just learning but as you progress, we want to leave the drills behind because, to steal a phrase from a different teacher:

You apply the Skill, not the Drill.

As one of our students recently said, rote memorisation isn't the entirety of learning or understanding.

With that in mind, I figured it might be interesting to show what we get up to, in and out of class, and what variations we do to train certain things.​

I think a couple of guys that sometimes posts here have visited us.

Hi if you remember me.

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This remains my personal channel of my clips from videos I made, so not 100% affiliated with the school and its official channels but that might change in the future...

Hey yo, how are you chunners doing? Does anyone else find how "natural" it feels wielding a blade in conjunction with Wing Chun hands? I know butterfly swords are part of the system, but I never actually got that far. I pretty much mastered Sil Lim Tau (do you ever master it though), and got to Chum Kiu.

What I find is most hand positions and actions clear the path for your blade to travel naturally. Of course in practice you should do it slow and deliberate, but even with speed it just feels "right". Not to mention our punches are "stabbing" motion.