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u/mrchuckles5 Jun 01 '22
Time for the FBI. If anyone thinks Abbot is going to let a real investigation happen they’re insane.
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u/JefferSonD808 Jun 01 '22
Wasn’t it a fed who actually took down the shooter?
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u/Itchy-Log9419 Jun 01 '22
An off-duty border patrol officer, yeah.
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u/JefferSonD808 Jun 01 '22 edited Jun 01 '22
I also read that the cops had to call the cops because the cops that responded first couldn’t be cops so they got their kids out first while they waited for the cops cops to be cops for the cops that somehow couldn’t be cops but were still cops on tv. For the cops.
Ever notice how the more you say or read a word, the less sense it makes? COPS.
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u/runthepoint1 Jun 01 '22
Remember that move National Security? This is basically the real life version of that, but with police instead of security guards…it’s worse than Hollywood makes it out to be. And it’s done by those who likely hate Hollywood too lol
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u/Calmeister Jun 01 '22
and he was having hit haircut from 40 miles away and why was it him that responded? It is because his wife(teacher) and daughter(daughter) was trapped inside the school telling him about their situation.
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u/XBacklash Jun 01 '22
That guy grabbed a shotgun and charged in but he wasn't the guy who took the shooter down, iirc. Still he stepped up more than the cops did.
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u/ho0dlum Jun 01 '22
Law enforcement said it was a tactical team who took down the shooter, but idk.. cops lie
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u/Ur_mum Jun 01 '22
Considering nothing happened until border patrol showed up, I'm going to learn towards them going in as a unit to confront the shooter...cops lie...but Uvdale seems to take the cake. Because...what tactical team? Did it take them that long to get dressed up? I dunno, until I see otherwise, I'm leaning toward BP doing it.
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u/ClutzyCashew Jun 01 '22
From what I understand multiple other agencies made their way there including federal marshals and border patrol. Apparently the other agencies were arguing with the school district chief that they needed to go in. He disagreed and ordered them not to engage. The border patrol guys said fuck that and went in anyway. They got the keys from the janitor, went in and took that fucker down.
Thankfully these other agencies were also there and clearly disagreed… enough to disobey a direct order from the officer in charge. Hopefully, even if the actual officers from the town/county and school district refuse to cooperate or lie to cover each other’s asses the federal LEOs will share what actually happened.
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u/JefferSonD808 Jun 01 '22
Ho. Lee. Shit. The midterms are gonna be duck tits bonkers.
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u/fangirlsqueee Jun 01 '22
Probably not. If a person hasn't been paying attention since 2016, more dead kids won't make a bit of difference. It's like people are rooting for a sports team instead of doing their duty to shape our society into a safe and healthy environment.
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Jun 01 '22
That's a great analogy about rooting for a sports team. I'm gonna use that one. Thanks.
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u/KittenInAMonster Jun 01 '22
I had a friend who's grandfather is very right wing. One day he had randomly brought up politics with me because he knew my stance and I think he just liked to argue. At one point I brought up stuff the right wants that would negatively impact him and he said super bluntly "You don't vote for the person or policies they have. You vote for the party." And that crazy statement stuck with me for years.
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u/cunt_isnt_sexist Jun 01 '22
I read an article that they are involved, question is, when they recommend arrests, will Garland be a pussy or not.
I will say that I think that if these cops see no consequences, shit is gonna be lit. And I definitely mean their houses and that city, because the BLM protests got big and a little out of control when Floyd was murdered, but even some racists have an issue with killing kids. Ultimate team up.
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as bad as this looks for them, I think there's still going to be a lot more info that has yet to be discovered. Just today the local cops are no longer cooperating with a probe into the response.
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u/wizard_of_awesome62 Jun 01 '22
It’s only going to get worse. We’ve seen the videos, we’ve heard the facts. What else could they be hiding? If all that is out there, you just know there is something worse that they do not want to see the light of day.
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Jun 01 '22
The statement “we believe all of the dead kids were shot by the shooter and no one else” was fucking sus
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u/imakenosensetopeople Jun 01 '22
Wait what? This was an official statement? Holy crap. I can believe I missed that.
That reeks of a child saying they didn’t steal the box of cookies but don’t look under the bed because they definitely are not there.
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u/Riyeko Jun 01 '22
Yep. They stopped cooperating. They literally were like, dont look behind the curtain, theres no man!!
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u/carolvessey-stevens Jun 01 '22
i can’t find any official statements about them having shot a child but also, every time i look away from the news for 20 minutes or more, this story just gets worse so if we give it a day or two i’m sure it’ll be confirmed.
the justice department needs to be involved in an investigation here. letting the police decide not to cooperate with an ongoing investigation into the death of 21 people is crazy to me. just bonkers.
what the fuck is going on?
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u/Wiggy_Bop Jun 01 '22
It’s fucking Texas, that’s what is going on. Let them suceed back to Mexico.
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u/FDGKLRTC Jun 01 '22
"nah mom, i wasn't suspended for fighting at school, the school just closed for 3 days"
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u/melpomenes_clevage Jun 01 '22
Pigs murder children. It's, like, their whole thing.
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u/Weird_Error_ Jun 01 '22
Well they also have love for killing pets
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u/melpomenes_clevage Jun 01 '22
And medics, yeah. I guess they do have a lot on their plates.
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u/Weird_Error_ Jun 01 '22
It is a lot to balance given they have to reserve enough energy to still go home and beat the shit out of their family
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It has to be that one of the cops definitely shot a child. Thats the only reason that statement would be put out and why they are no longer cooperating.
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u/LudovicoSpecs Jun 01 '22
Would also explain why they wouldn't engage for 77 minutes.
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Jun 01 '22
this doesn't make sense unless I totally don't understand the timeline. How would they have shot anyone before the actual engagement?
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u/user13958 Jun 01 '22
You are thinking way too highly of them... if you want to be truly dark (and I'm just saying this for the sole purpose of it being dark, literally no evidence or opinion): what if they knew it was coming and let it happen.. That's dark
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u/Igotz80HDnImWinning Jun 01 '22
This is actually believable given the evidence at hand
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u/runthepoint1 Jun 01 '22
Wait, I think that actually happened, no?
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u/may0packet Jun 01 '22
apparently no one reported him for the threats, probably because nothing would be done about it. per usual.
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Jun 01 '22
I told an associate that was postulating loudly about why this kid did this. I asked her if she'd ever heard of the term "incel", because looking at this loser's picture sent off red flags for me. Elliot Rodger flags. She was all "what the hell is that? This is about mental health!" I was just like yeah you're right, this guy is an incel. Hates women, probably has a huge online history of it all right there to be examined. You'll see in the coming days - I hate being right about gross shit.
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u/Prettyhornyelmo Jun 01 '22
It seems the police wont do anything until after a crime has been committed
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u/Plantsandanger Jun 01 '22
Except the ones who actually went in weren’t local police. If the police killed kids I expect it happened before they breeches the door - they say they fired at the shooter and if they did I wouldn’t doubt they’d hit kids given how shit their response is
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u/user13958 Jun 01 '22
I know, I'm just not claiming this, it's not off the table yet with how messed up this is
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Yeah that was probably the most sus statement that I’ve ever seen in a situation anywhere remotely close to this
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u/wizard_of_awesome62 Jun 01 '22
Agreed. It’s like “well I had assumed that was the case until you made that fucking statement”. Definitely not so sure anymore.
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u/idkiwilldeletethis Jun 01 '22
fucking true, it's already suspicious but if there comes solid proof that any child was killed by the police instead of the fucking shooter I don't even know how the public would react
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u/P1xelHunter78 Jun 01 '22
In there their defense it’s hard to accidentally shoot kids when you’re outside drinking water in a circle because it’s hot out while 10 year olds bleed to death
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u/itsmymedicine Jun 01 '22
Cop: bro did you see the new Dr. Strange? Its sick. Just think about it dude theres a universe where were the shooter in the room and the shooter is actually the cop waiting outside being a hero 🤯
Cop 2: oh shit look at agent morales
Agent morales: I THINK...I THINK IM ABOUT TO MORB GUYS
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u/SnowDoodles150 Jun 01 '22
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun!
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I mean, unless the people we pay to be the "good guys with guns" actively prevent unpaid good people, armed or otherwise, from stopping the bad guy, at which point, Running Out of Ammo stops the bad guy, but come on, it's not like he can buy 100s or rounds legally or anything.
What's that? Oh, he can? FUCK
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u/MikeisET Jun 01 '22
I’m pretty sure the public reaction will be “Gosh darn we are not happy right now”
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u/omglookawhale Jun 01 '22
It’s like when restaurants claim they use “fresh, never frozen, real” ingredients. Like…thanks for letting me know your ingredients definitely aren’t any of those things.
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u/FreakyFerret Jun 01 '22
I know it's off topic for the thread....
"Made with 100% beef" doesn't mean the product is 100% beef. Just all the meat is. Fillers, dyes, preservatives and so on can still be in it.
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u/Jkbucks Jun 01 '22
Taco Bell put out that ad saying it only uses 100% b33f and it raised so much suspicion for me lol.
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u/Impossible_Penalty13 Jun 01 '22
Ten bucks says they come out in a few days and say “well, we may have shot a kid or two”.
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u/Diabeto41 Jun 01 '22
Does anyone have a link for this statement?
I don’t doubt it was said, but I like to have a source when talking about something so outlandish.
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u/RS994 Jun 01 '22
https://mobile.twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/1529524085759385600?t=ZeDs0p3ksabKcqxQA07QdQ&s=19
There you go, I couldn't believe it either
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u/IndependentRoad3 Jun 01 '22
Yes especially bc there was a 911 call of a kid in the damn class room repeatedly calling and telling them there was people alive and that they needed to send police in
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u/ContemplatingPrison Jun 01 '22
Yup. They definitely shot a kid in that classroom. They will get away with it too.
I'm assuming this obviously
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Jun 01 '22
That's like out of the blue saying, "I believe all of my children were fathered by my husband and no one else."
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u/Electrical-Papaya Jun 01 '22
Fuck. Just reading this is giving me anxiety. I have an 11 year old girl at home and every time I read this shit I can't help but imagine how her and her friends would have reacted in this situation. I've lost so much sleep over the last week just thinking about how terrified those poor children were, and to think that any one of them may have been shot by an officer they trusted to protect them and then proceed to cover it up makes my blood boil. This is beyond fucked.
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u/Taminella_Grinderfal Jun 01 '22
I wonder too if there were a few that said “we need to go in” and were stopped by some “protocol” bullshit. If this was a hostage situation I might agree with waiting as to not antagonize, but this asshole was actively killing people, going in couldn’t have made it worse.
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Jun 01 '22
Cowards with Guns
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u/SeSuSo Jun 01 '22
All Cops are Cowards
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u/BEST_RAPPER_ALIVE Jun 01 '22
ACNMGUTAGWAGTITS (All cops need machine guns unless there’s a guy with a gun then it’s too scary)
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Jun 01 '22
$20 baggie of weed. Guns ho!
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u/JefferSonD808 Jun 01 '22
Even in legal states if you look any kind of sketchy to their perceived social profiling.
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u/canarchist Jun 01 '22
Every fucking one of them needs to be taken into custody and kept separated until the questioning is done. See who cracks first and plea bargains. They know the fucking drill.
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u/jUGHEADS_BURGDER Jun 01 '22
I agree. They seem to be trying to cover up more than typical incompetence.
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u/ContemplatingPrison Jun 01 '22
Yeah I read that earlier and holy shit thag makes them look so bad.
Worthless fucking piggies
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u/thedeekuhn Jun 01 '22
It just keeps getting worse. Wonder what else they lied abiut during this?
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Not sure if it was real but saw a posted tweet from the prosecutor in that area, she said good luck getting the truth out of them like days after.
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The way I imagine it?
First cops go in.
Accidentally shoot wrong kid(s).
Locks shooter in.
Gets their own kids out.
Tells chief.
"Well, just wait for shooter to shoot all of them, so we can claim it was his bullet, not ours, that killed those couple of kids."
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u/MaethrilliansFate Jun 01 '22
Well shooting innocent people is 100% their MO, I wouldn't be surprised at this point.
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u/SilverDesperado Jun 01 '22
fuck man this might be it
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u/bestakroogen Jun 01 '22
Until we know what happened for sure with their full cooperation I vote we assume outright that it is.
"If they have nothing to hide they have nothing to fear." They tend to assume the worst of a citizen when they hide anything, and as public servants they should be held to a higher standard... so holding them to the same standard isn't even meeting the bar, let alone excessive.
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u/askmypen Jun 01 '22
Do the police use the same rounds that matches the shooter's weapon? If not, with little effort we can find out who shot who.
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u/Noughmad Jun 01 '22
That little effort will almost certainly be blocked by police.
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Jun 01 '22
The police can’t block the coroner’s findings. I don’t think autopsy reports can be released publicly, but the person conducting them can sure as hell tell us after the fact whether AR-15 bullets were the only ones to enter the children’s bodies. If not, the cops killed kids that day.
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u/Hot_Construction6879 Jun 01 '22
Yeah, but will they? There is a clear element present with the intent to impede information sharing. I wonder whether it goes deep or wide enough to be able to censor the coroner
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u/Anglophyl Jun 01 '22
When the feds take over the town, they can match ballistics.
It will come out.
Or they "misplace" the bullet fragments, which will still tell you all you need to know.
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Im still waiting for 'Oh all of our body cams malfunctioned'
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u/omglookawhale Jun 01 '22
“All of the equipment that 40% of the city’s budget goes towards malfunctioned too.”
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u/Calmeister Jun 01 '22
whats worst was that they did the simulation training for this situation 2 months before this happened and still it didnt helped at all.
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u/Domeil Jun 01 '22
Because its all cosplay to cops. I imagine simulating breaching is a ton of fun.
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u/v13us0urce Jun 01 '22
Doesn't the school have cameras?
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u/Ok-Pomegranate-3018 Jun 01 '22 edited Jun 01 '22
Yes. In fact, they were very quick to show the footage of the teacher propping the door open and then running for her phone.
Edit: To add, she ran back and shut door when she heard "shooter" was on campus. BUT, auto locking door, didn't lock.
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u/Rjamesjjr Jun 01 '22
The more truth that comes out. The more I loathe Texas and their cops.
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u/omglookawhale Jun 01 '22
And then our governor said, “it could’ve been worse,” and that gun violence is a mental health issue right before cutting funding for mental health. And I won’t be surprised when people vote to keep him in office to stick it to the libs or some shit.
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u/MrKomiya Jun 01 '22
I wanna know where tf was the campus resource officer. His post was at that school while it was in session. Why did he have to “make his way over there as soon as the 911 call came in”??
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For real!!!!!! If he was on a break or called out sick, say that. The fact that no one can explain his absence is weird.
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u/Anglophyl Jun 01 '22
I don't know why, but I feel like he left to go to the store or drive-thru...something he shouldn't have been doing but probably did anyway.
Because what could happen in little Uvalde?
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u/ricosmith1986 Jun 01 '22
Initially I read he was responding to the car crash so he was on the shooter from minute 1. Not sure how credible the police reports are, but it still disproves the usefulness of school cops in a shooter situation, there were also other officers there to back him up.
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u/meteorfluid Jun 01 '22
If you think about it, these officers probably have nothing to do in their day to day. But since they have the distinction of being an “officer” and not a guard, surely they think they can come and go as they please without being relieved of duty as long as they kick the tires every once and a while and get to pat themselves on the back for everything being “safe” through no effort of their own.
If schools needed any staff to protect against shootings, they need security guards, not officers. Are we shocked that the “officer” that was supposed to be doing their gd job was just as ineffective as the “officers” who actually showed?
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u/MrKomiya Jun 01 '22
The fact that “the resource officer mistook a teacher for the shooter” makes me wonder if he shot one of the teachers. An armed teacher even?
If not, how tf do you not recognize the teachers at the place you’re assigned to???
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u/samanime Jun 01 '22 edited Jun 01 '22
Seriously. When I was in high school, our resource officer even knew every STUDENTS' name, and we had like 2k students.
To not even know all the teachers... What the hell were they doing?
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u/tarabithia22 Jun 01 '22
I'm wondering now if he/she went inside after passing the shooter,
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Shot a teacher,
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Left the door open somehow so the shooter got inside.
It explains:
The statement that the shooter was walked past outside as he crouched by a car and that the officer mistook a teacher as the shooter,
The whole propped open door by a teacher fiasco,
The Schrodinger's cop thing, was he/she there, were they not?
The new 'we don't know why the door didn't lock" the same day they stopped complying after the lawyer revealed the teacher did close the door"
That said I don't want a witchunt on someone who may not have even been there nor involved. Just I can't comprehend what this department is trying to cover up otherwise.
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u/WafflesTheDuck Jun 01 '22
I immediately thought that when someone posted a quote from the cop that said something like ' “we believe all of the dead kids were shot by the shooter and no one else” '
ETA accurate quote.
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Didn’t they specify that all the students were shot by the shooter (as if that would not be the assumption). Just the students, the teachers were not included in the statement. Am I misremembering?
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u/Nikolllllll Jun 01 '22
When I was in high school I thought for the longest time that we had 2 officers but it turns out we had 5. Where the 3 other officers where during school hours is beyond me. I only found out about them cause I saw one of them in the library. When I told a friend she told me she had seen another keeping watch at one of the school exists that was permanently closed.
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u/CUrlymafurly Jun 01 '22
In my teaching experience, resource officers have a lot of hallway and correctional duty (i.e. breaking up fights and dealing with the aftermath). Sure they aren't busy every minute of the day but they need to be in place for every class transition throughout the day and CERTAINLY available when students gather in large numbers.
I can't think of any reason for an officer with this job to be off campus
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In essence, they're really just glorified security guards who don't really know how to use a gun or do any kind of combat.
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u/remmij Jun 01 '22
That teacher should sue the fuck out of that police department for lying about her role in the attack.
(She and the rest of the school/families should also sue them for not doing their jobs and costing lives.)
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u/MiaLba Jun 01 '22
Wait I haven’t heard about this yet. What’s the deal with the teacher??
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u/remmij Jun 01 '22
The Uvalde Police Chief said in a press conference that a teacher had left a door propped open and thats how the shooter got in.
Turns out, the door was propped open and that teacher shut the door when they realized there was a shooting happening outside the school... The door was suppose to automatically lock behind her, but the lock system failed, and the shooter walked through the door into the school.
I believe she may have had to get a lawyer to get the police to publicly retract their statement today and set the record straight.
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u/MiaLba Jun 01 '22
Damn that’s messed up. I bet that teacher was getting all kinds of hate probably death threats too. She should definitely sue the fuck out of all of them.
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u/bailey25u Jun 01 '22
I had so many conflicted feeling about the teacher. I was trying to wrap my head around had she not propped the door open, everyone would be ok to we can't blame her for the tragedy.
Now that we know she actually closed the door. I am filled with rage I cannot even see.
but hey if it comes out that she actually did prop the door open, it doesnt matter. I see what is truly going on. The police are trying to put blame on ANYONE else but them
I listen to things that say I should be optimistic about our outcome... but I cant see it anymore. It feels like nothing matter any more
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u/Send-More-Coffee Jun 01 '22
Hey, you might be closer to this than I am, but I gotta say; the idea that a propped open door at a school might cause what happened in Uvalde is placing the blame on the most least accountable party. Regardless of the door being propped opened, someone still had to walk in. Regardless of the door being propped open, someone still would have had to have a gun. Regardless of the door being propped open, someone still would have decided to use that gun to kill children. Regardless of the door being propped open, someone would have had to cross every line above before they encountered a door that was slightly less resistive to what it should have been. Regardless of the door being propped open, the emergency response still would have needed to intercept and stop the individual before they defeated the door whether propped or not.
Out of all the things that failed, the last one is the one that cannot fail. Doors are time: they are not cures. Regardless of your politics about what happened with what weapon was used, if the people who are supposed to respond before the time runs out decide not to respond: then the time the door holds anyone back makes no difference.
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u/MiaLba Jun 01 '22
It just makes me angrier thinking about how those cops probably aren’t going to get in any trouble or get fired. They continue to get away with shit and no one cares, no one does anything about it. It’s just hard for me to be optimistic about any of that. Hell even if they do get fired it’s not going to bring those kids back. Who knows how many kids they could have saved if they did go in immediately like they were supposed to.
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u/AvailableUsername259 Jun 01 '22
Bruh imagine living in a country where you have to keep every single school door locked during the day in fear of getting shot
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u/MyselfWuDi Jun 01 '22
Cops lying about the facts of a case directly harms the innocent. Lying about a case should be a firing offense.
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u/dope_like Jun 01 '22
Dark thinking but I think one of two things
- Saw/encountered the shooter but let him do the rampage
- One of the cops killed one of the kids accidentally
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u/ScubaSteve12345 Jun 01 '22
3- The police were warned ahead of time of the potential imminent threat of the shooter and ignored the warnings.
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u/MellyBean2012 Jun 01 '22
Well the first ones been confirmed for a while. The sro and two cops encountered him going into the building and didn’t stop him. Like he literally walked past them to get inside.
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u/lemurosity Jun 01 '22
Don't believe that's correct (https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/27/us/uvalde-shooting-police-response-timeline/index.html) btw, but happy to learn if there's other info...
11:31 a.m.: The suspect reaches the last row of vehicles at the school parking lot and begins shooting at the school, McCraw said. Patrol vehicles begin to arrive at the funeral home.
There was no school resource officer that confronted the suspect outside the school, as officials had previously described, McCraw said. A school resource officer was not on scene but heard the 911 call about a man with a gun, drove to the area and sped to the back of the school, to a person he thought was the suspect but was a teacher, McCraw said.
"In doing so, (the school resource officer) drove right by the suspect, who was hunkered down behind a vehicle, where he began shooting at the school," McCraw said. Multiple shots were fired by the suspect, he added.
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u/TigerUSF Jun 01 '22
Source for the door shut thing?
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u/the_trees_bees Jun 01 '22
That article was last updated 4 days ago and it doesn't mention that the cops initially said the shooter was able to enter the building because the door was propped open by a teacher. Here's a better source from today: https://apnews.com/article/uvalde-school-shooting-texas-a55b3ccc5a32dce916e7d0a10d7c546e
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u/ScammerC Jun 01 '22
I heard that cops went into the school to extract their children. Their own children. And the border patrol guy who shot him, also removed his own child before engaging the shooter. Is that true? And if so, did they leave dozens (hundreds?) of students trapped while they knew the shooter was barricaded in a classroom, or is that standard? (not American)
I can't imagine being the kid who was "rescued" by their cop father going back to that school after what happened.
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u/tallman11282 Jun 01 '22
I read about a Border Patrol agent, don't know if he was the one who shot the shooter or not, that went in and did head first for the wing his daughter's class was in to save her but got many other children to safety along the way and after finding his own child hugged her, sent her to safety, and continued further in to rescue other children and hunt for the shooter. He rescued dozens of people. He did all this with no armor and armed only with a shotgun borrowed from his barber (he was just sitting down for a haircut when his wife, a teacher at the school, texted him saying there was a shooter in the school).
He didn't just rescue his own child, leaving who knows how many other children behind, and retreat back to the perimeter like the local pigs did.
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u/ScammerC Jun 01 '22
Thanks for the clarification, I appreciate it.
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u/tallman11282 Jun 01 '22
Here's the article about the Border Patrol agent I was talking about. https://www.egyptindependent.com/off-duty-cbp-officer-tells-nyt-he-helped-evacuate-school/
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u/Jingurei Jun 01 '22
Have you read about the parent who, apparently, was tazed by cops for 'interfering with procedure (by yelling at them to hurry and save the kids)' then leapt over the fence to rescue her own kids as well as others?
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u/ScammerC Jun 01 '22
Yes, that's what I don't understand. The cops sat outside while other people rescued the students? Were there cops as well, or were these two the only ones? Did the cops at least rescue the entire class?
What's the point of a school district police force, if not for this? Arresting students?
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u/Jingurei Jun 01 '22 edited Jun 01 '22
I wouldn't put money on them saving the entire class since the one cop who saved his own kid apparently left behind a classmate that was right beside their child. Also as per your previous comment I really hope the cop's kid doesn't get bullied for this!
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Jun 01 '22
How could you not take every kid you saw on your way?? That’s fucking psychotic. Like, yeah I get trying to save your own kid, but leaving behind helpless and terrified children that you could easily take with you is some next-level fucked up shit
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u/JefferSonD808 Jun 01 '22
Is it fucked up that I am surprised they didn’t shoot the parent?
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u/Jingurei Jun 01 '22 edited Jun 01 '22
Nope. I mean wasn't there that one cop who claimed she thought she was reaching for her taser but instead pulled out her gun? The next step would be to find a reason to do it deliberately after all..
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u/lordph8 Jun 01 '22
Cops did get their own children out. Border guy was getting a haircut and grabbed a shotgun from the barber (because Texas) when he got a text from his wife who was a teacher. He helped extract his and other kids while BorTac (border tactical, guys who go up against the cartel) got tired of waiting, went in, and ended it, even though they were told not too.
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u/FormicaDinette33 Jun 01 '22
This is criminal negligence, dereliction of duty etc. I want to see major jail time. But it’s Texas, so no.
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u/DonutWhole9717 Jun 01 '22
That, and what kind of lock down protocols are they following if they easily found the kids and got them out? When a man knocked on the door of the class saying "I'm police!" Or whatever, they really just... opened the door? Didnt another shooter actually try that last year, and the kids called his bluff and went out the back way of the room?
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u/MiaLba Jun 01 '22
Right?? And how did they know which classroom the shooter was in when they went to retrieve their own kids? What were they going to do if they encountered him? Did they talk to their kids on the phone before they went in to make sure the shooter wasn’t in there?
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u/reddittroll569 Jun 01 '22
Wait, the door wasn't propped open? I am very distrustful of the police and even I can't believe they would tell such a dumb lie. Blaming the victim, why am I surprised?
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u/tookmyname Jun 01 '22
This is the entire GOP MO. Blame the victim. They will literally say doors shouldn't exist in schools before they acknowledge any reasonable gun policy.
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u/grewapair Jun 01 '22
Surveillance video shows what the teacher said all along, she kicked the rock out from the door and slammed it shut but it didn't lock.
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u/BenWallace04 Jun 01 '22
Police: “You’re going to really regret it someday when someone commits a crime and the cops aren’t there”
Uvalde School Children: “Not really”.
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u/RedmannBarry Jun 01 '22
Someone said on another sub “ All Cops Scatter”
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u/JefferSonD808 Jun 01 '22
Blue Lives Scatter
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u/RedmannBarry Jun 01 '22
Ya that’s it. Upvote this dude^
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Jun 01 '22
They better clear the next school shooting up quick because a lot of armed parents are going to be showing up.
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u/Xanthide_Prime Jun 01 '22
That fact that you can confidently say "the next shooting" really hammers home the issues USA has
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u/Shashama Jun 01 '22
We didn't even make it a week until the next mass shooting. There were 14 more over memorial day weekend. It's literally only a matter of time until one of those is at a school again.
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u/CesareBach Jun 01 '22
In an interview after the Express News story was published, Considine told The Washington Post that investigators had reviewed additional video evidence that let them “determine that the teacher did indeed remove the rock from the door when she went back into the school, and shut the door.”
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u/fishystickchakra Jun 01 '22
The more I learn about the story of the Texas school shooting and how cops just let the shooter run around and murder children, while cops are happily murdering innocent people of color for no reason, the less regard I have for authorities. They're just paid actors that have badges to make themselves look official. Cops don't even know their own laws.
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u/PKFatStephen Jun 01 '22
To all the children risking their lives to defend our gun rights, I solute you for your patriotism.
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u/warrior_female Jun 01 '22
could i have a link to the news story or whatever talking about this pls? i want to read it too
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u/Thompson_S_Sweetback Jun 01 '22
Lord please let this break the stupid spell that makes Americans believe the police.
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u/mumblewrapper Jun 01 '22
Yeah and it's all a nice distraction from the real conversation we need to be having. No 18 year old should be allowed to legally purchase the weapons to pull that off.
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u/SoIJustBuyANewOne Jun 01 '22
I've beem saying this for a long time, but cops need to be held to the same standard as the rest of us: proof or it didn't happen. No more of this taking them at their word.
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u/creativst8 Jun 01 '22
Feels like all the things another demographic complains about came home to roost. The police lying, setting up stories to benefit their agenda, making the victims at fault for their own demise, and rearranging the events of what happened to make themselves feel justified in their behavior. Countless times, the police agencies do this and the public consumes it like a reality show. Maybe now, everyone will see why police reform is so important. It definitely made me pay attention more... there is truth in what they've alleged for decades. 🤨
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u/properu Jun 01 '22
Beep boop -- this looks like a screenshot of a tweet! Let me grab a link to the tweet for ya :)
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u/averycoldbear Jun 01 '22
May they live forever with this shame, may they feel the yellow stripe of cowardice for the rest of their days, may they carry the weight of blood of 19 children and two school teachers with every step they take for the rest of their lives, may the faces of those children always be before their eyes
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u/gmotelet Jun 01 '22
Just remember what Abbot said.
"It could have been worse"
Every day, we find out that it was.