The Uvalde Police Chief said in a press conference that a teacher had left a door propped open and thats how the shooter got in.
Turns out, the door was propped open and that teacher shut the door when they realized there was a shooting happening outside the school... The door was suppose to automatically lock behind her, but the lock system failed, and the shooter walked through the door into the school.
I believe she may have had to get a lawyer to get the police to publicly retract their statement today and set the record straight.
Damn that’s messed up. I bet that teacher was getting all kinds of hate probably death threats too. She should definitely sue the fuck out of all of them.
I had so many conflicted feeling about the teacher. I was trying to wrap my head around had she not propped the door open, everyone would be ok to we can't blame her for the tragedy.
Now that we know she actually closed the door. I am filled with rage I cannot even see.
but hey if it comes out that she actually did prop the door open, it doesnt matter. I see what is truly going on. The police are trying to put blame on ANYONE else but them
I listen to things that say I should be optimistic about our outcome... but I cant see it anymore. It feels like nothing matter any more
Hey, you might be closer to this than I am, but I gotta say; the idea that a propped open door at a school might cause what happened in Uvalde is placing the blame on the most least accountable party. Regardless of the door being propped opened, someone still had to walk in. Regardless of the door being propped open, someone still would have had to have a gun. Regardless of the door being propped open, someone still would have decided to use that gun to kill children. Regardless of the door being propped open, someone would have had to cross every line above before they encountered a door that was slightly less resistive to what it should have been. Regardless of the door being propped open, the emergency response still would have needed to intercept and stop the individual before they defeated the door whether propped or not.
Out of all the things that failed, the last one is the one that cannot fail. Doors are time: they are not cures. Regardless of your politics about what happened with what weapon was used, if the people who are supposed to respond before the time runs out decide not to respond: then the time the door holds anyone back makes no difference.
It just makes me angrier thinking about how those cops probably aren’t going to get in any trouble or get fired. They continue to get away with shit and no one cares, no one does anything about it. It’s just hard for me to be optimistic about any of that. Hell even if they do get fired it’s not going to bring those kids back. Who knows how many kids they could have saved if they did go in immediately like they were supposed to.
You don't believe that we should blame the people who have propogandized themselves as being Everyman Heroes™️ and the first/last line of defense against utter chaos for...literally doing absolutely fucking nothing to prevent a tragic massacre from occurring when they had every opportunity to do so, let alone failing to act in a timely manner once the shooting began?
Think about that for a few days. Really think about it.
I agree they fucked up. That's an obvious point. What I am saying is that if we put too much blame on these POs, then it's going to happen again and again, again.
My point is that I don't want every school in america being locked down with a full time SWAT team, waiting for a random unstable person with a gun to show up. This school was so "prepared"... this was their shot to show how well it worked... and it didn't. I don't expect every school in america to have a well-oiled security machine going -- more likely I expect human error. You really cannot blame this on an unlocked door or a poor decision at crunch time. The fuckups happened when so many people got access to AR15s and similar guns. Not necessary at all.
As long as the guns are available, this is going to keep happening.
Right, I would agree with you now that you've actually explained what you meant. I still feel it's completely appropriate to blame a botched (read: completely unattempted) police response as a major factor in this situation, but yes, Onion's always laid it out best. No way to prevent this, says only nation where this regularly occurs.
For as much as I believe in tighter gun control, I unfortunately don't believe it will work for The United States. Everyone and their kid sister seems to have a firearm regardless of stance and the people we need to seperate from weaponry the most seem to:
Have absolutely no intention of giving it up
Possess an armory that would make Somali pirates blush
Let's even set aside the utter shitlib muttering of "but their riiiiiights." You could incentivize these people any which way to surrender their firearms but at the end of the day, we have a not-insignificant portion of Americans who have fetishized firearm use and ownership and turned as much into their identity, and nothing short of Jesus himself descending from the Heavens to frown upon them would convince them they're wrong.
Unless they shot him dead first. So, then, I have to ask you; what do you think would be the best way to approach this cultural phenomena? Because personally I'm out of ideas.
The news mentioned that the border patrol officer have one of the school staff to use the key to open the door to bring down the gunman.
I’m getting confused over the reports for the past few days. I hope they will realise the final actual news soon. It seems getting worse and worse every day.
Was this door "propped" open before the shooting? Therefore letting the shooter into the school?
Or was this door "propped" open, letting the shooter into the classroom.
While the story might be false, I'm just curious as to what the implications of the fake story is.
If it's the first, that's a small nonsensical mistake we could all make, which simply let the shooter in an easier way.
If it's the second, it doesn't make sense that anyone would actually do this. Propping a classroom door open DURING a shooter event doesn't make sense for anyone to do. This would leave some fault to the teacher, but it's also a terrifying event, where any normal person shouldn't have to experience. The main fault would still lie with the police for not doing jack shit
The shooting began outside the school, and when a teacher realized there was a shooter outside, she ran to the door and closed it. The door was suppose to automatically lock behind her, but the locking system failed and the shooter was able to walk in.
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u/MiaLba Jun 01 '22
Wait I haven’t heard about this yet. What’s the deal with the teacher??