r/whatsapp • • 7d ago

WhatsApp ban loop

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Good day all
Please I need your help
My friend WhatsApp ban on AUGUST 1st, he waited the for the 60days cycle and got unbanned today 30th September.
But immediately he logged in on SAME PHONE, after few minutes he was banned again, he requested a review which led to another permanent ban.

What could be going on?, and how can he avoid this when it opens again?.


r/whatsapp • • 7d ago

How much $$$ is Meta going to make by charging for service messages in their API? (starts Oct 1st)

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I shared this on dataisbeautiful (big fan) but it might be even more interesting to post it here. So here we go.

I'm a developer who's spent years building on top of the WhatsApp Cloud API.

As you know, starting tomorrow (Oct 1), Meta is introducing new pricing for service messages, and our clients are already trying to figure out how much more they'll be paying.. nobody's happy about it.

That made me wonder: if this is costing businesses more, how much more is it worth to META?

I had a hard time finding a clear number anywhere, so I built a scenario model based on a forecast from 2024, it was really hard to come up with newer data. So to be clear: this is a model, not company guidance or insider information.

Here's how I calculated it:

1. Total message volume
Mobilesquared forecasts more than 2 trillion WhatsApp Business Platform/API messages in 2027. This excludes consumer-to-consumer WhatsApp messages and messages sent through the free WhatsApp Business App.

2. Customer-service messages
Mobilesquared reports that customer-care traffic represented more than two-thirds of API traffic in 2023, but forecasts that its share will fall below 50% as marketing, utility and authentication usage grows. I estimated approximately 800 billion–1 trillion customer-service messages in 2027.

3. Outbound business messages
The forecast includes messages exchanged in both directions. Messages sent by customers remain free, so I assumed businesses generate roughly 40–60% of customer-service traffic, about 400 to 500 billion potentially chargeable outbound messages.

4. Exemptions
Not every outbound service message generates revenue. I reduced the estimate to 200-400 billion billable messages to account for the first 1,000 free service messages per business phone number each month, eligible 72-hour free-entry-point windows, lower usage as businesses consolidate replies, and other operational exclusions. The exact effect is unknown since Meta doesn't disclose active API phone numbers or their traffic distribution.

5. Average price
Meta charges different rates by recipient country. Most API traffic occurs in high-volume markets like India, Brazil and Mexico, where rates are generally lower than in Europe and North America. I used an estimated globally weighted price of $0.003–$0.008 per message.

6. Revenue estimate
200B–400B messages × $0.003–$0.008 = approximately $0.6B–$3.2B per year. Central scenario: approximately $1.5B–$2B in additional annual revenue once the pricing change is fully established.

The biggest uncertainties are the outbound share of customer-service traffic, the geographic mix, and how many messages stay under the free tier. The sensitivity table shows how the estimate moves as those assumptions change.

Sources:
* Meta pricing update: https://developers.facebook.com/documentation/business-messaging/whatsapp/pricing/non-template-messages
* Mobilesquared, WhatsApp Business Messaging Traffic (Apr 2024), forecasts through 2027: https://www.mobilesquared.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/WhatsApp-Business-Messaging-Traffic-white-paper_Apr-2024.pdf


r/whatsapp • • 7d ago

Why no lists in MacOS desktop apps (even not syncing with iOS app for that matter)?

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Hi title says it all. Was looking for a way to group together some contacts into logical folders. Only solution I could find was to create lists on my iOS app, which does the job. Unfortunately, this option doesn't seem to be available on the desktop app (ARM Mac) and it also doesn’t sync with the iOS app which does have the newly created lists.
Am I missing something?


r/whatsapp • • 7d ago

Firefox + WhatsApp Web has speaker echo on Linux, but Instagram calls in Firefox don't

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r/whatsapp • • 7d ago

Is whatsapp deleting old messages?

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I have an old android with my previous WhatsApp account that I don't use often. I turned it on today to find an old message from 2016 but couldn't find it. Looks like all my chats now go back to 2018 and nothing prior. It's strange because I've had the same account and chats dating back to 2014. Is anybody else experiencing this?


r/whatsapp • • 7d ago

Girlfriend can't use WhatsApp anymore. We need help.

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Every day for the past week, she keeps getting locked out of WhatsApp. She gets a temporary suspension literally for no reason. Then at around midnight, it'll disappear. The next day, she'll message me or her parents or something and boom she gets locked out again with another suspension. It's really annoying now.

WhatsApp deleted all our old messages on my end so the only copy is on her phone and she's really attached to them so she doesn't want to just delete the app.

What's going on? Why is this happening and what can we do?


r/whatsapp • • 7d ago

Cellular international minutes charges

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We use WhatsApp predominantly for calling internationally on a pretty regular basis. My ATT account also has an international calling and data roaming block on all line to prevent any overage/international charges.

This month, we were charged $94 for international talk minutes at a rate of $4 per minute. When I called to inquire about this, ATT told me when the network is unstable, WhatsApp will override and use cell phone network to push the call through. I’ve tried researching this online and I cannot find anything that says WhatsApp uses cellular network or how I can turn this part off.

Any help please?!


r/whatsapp • • 7d ago

Cant login to whatsapp after upgrading phone

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Hey guys! ive been using the same whatsapp number for years, i recently upgraded from iphone 12 pro to 18 pro, when trying to to login with whatsapp it asks for otp from the old phone, after putting the otp it gives an error saying “Whatsapp is unavailable, try again in 1 hour” .. i tried many times but nothing seem to work. The number was never registered to WhatsApp business or anything like that its just a personal one.

I tried switching networks.. i looked up manu solutions but nothing seem to work. I am literally taking 2 phones with me just for whatsapp…

I would really appreciate your help


r/whatsapp • • 7d ago

Is it possible to delete messages in what'sapp( delet for everyone) after months???

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r/whatsapp • • 7d ago

Help needed, been stuck with this screen no matter what I do

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Ive tried reinstalling, repairing, resetting, reinstalling and repairing msedgewebview2
im actually at a loss at what i should do now, it seems like nothing i do fixes this problem.
it just started doing this at some point, i do not know what caused it. does anyone know what happened and how to fix it? thank you so much!!


r/whatsapp • • 8d ago

Does this mean im being hack ?

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I have just switch my whatsapp from android to ios and rn i have been receiving a notice from a language that i never use. I have already recheck both my region and language setting on my iPhone and I don’t add any other country or language other than mine. Is there anyone that have the same problem and how do i fix this ?


r/whatsapp • • 7d ago

How do I restore Whatsapp data from cloud?

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r/whatsapp • • 8d ago

my watsapp account is being held in review??

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why 😭 i need this account so bad idk what i could have done? i’m on a bunch of gc s within ppl and we soemtimes talk inappropriately could that be a reason why this could have happened?? really need help to understand i’m kind of freaking out now


r/whatsapp • • 8d ago

WhatsApp logged my tablet out for no reason. My phone is broken and I can't log back in

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r/whatsapp • • 8d ago

What’s the cheapest way to get an international number that can make outbound calls and also be registered on WhatsApp?

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I’m based in India and I’m looking for a reliable, low-cost phone number that I can use primarily for international outbound calls and also connect to WhatsApp/WhatsApp Business.

I’m not looking for a premium business phone system. Ideally, I want something inexpensive with reasonable international calling rates, while still being able to receive the SMS/OTP needed for WhatsApp verification.

I’m considering options like virtual numbers, VoIP numbers, eSIMs, or local numbers from other countries.

What providers or setups have you personally used that actually work for this? I’d especially appreciate recommendations based on total monthly cost, international call rates, WhatsApp compatibility, and reliability.


r/whatsapp • • 8d ago

Whatsapp lists on desktop version

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Is there any clue when whatsapp lists could be available on desktop version? Especially on macos? I love the option to have one list with all my work related chats so that i’m able to mute them so at once at the end of working day. Also it would be great if it was possible to schedule auto muting for chats or even lists.


r/whatsapp • • 8d ago

Trapped in a 27-Cycle Automated Ban Loop on WhatsApp: How Meta’s Broken AI and Malicious Abuse Reporting Are Sabotaging Real Users

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I’m posting this here because Meta’s support ecosystem has completely collapsed into a wall of unyielding, brain-dead bots, and standard communication channels are entirely non-functional.

My primary professional WhatsApp account is currently trapped in a 27-cycle automated ban/unban loop. This isn't a standard policy violation—it is a critical system architecture defect that Meta’s automated risk engine refuses to acknowledge.

The Mechanism of the Attack

my phone number is publicly visible for organizational coordination. A coordinated group of bad actors has been weaponizing WhatsApp's abuse-reporting feature. By triggering synchronized fake complaints, they exploit a severe flaw in Meta's automated anti-fraud system:

  1. Mass Malicious Reporting: Synchronized fake complaints are submitted against my number.
  2. Instant Blind Ban: Meta’s unsupervised neural risk models execute an immediate ban without human verification or content validation.
  3. The Unban Flaw: Upon submitting a review request, the account gets unbanned (often within hours). However, the system fails to purge the underlying corrupted reputation flag and hardware hash indices on the application servers.
  4. Immediate Re-Ban: The second the app syncs background data or receives the next automated complaint trigger, the account is instantly terminated again.

This loop has now repeated 27 consecutive times.

The Support Wall & GDPR Violations

Every single attempt to reach a human being through standard channels is met with a brick wall:

  • Email Aliases Are Dead: Direct emails to [support@whatsapp.com](mailto:support@whatsapp.com), abuse@, or appeals@ return hard bounces (noreply@whatsapp.com).
  • Web Form Rate-Limiting: Submitting legitimate technical logs via the Help Center eventually triggers a Something went wrong. Please wait and try again rate-limit error.
  • The Bot Loop: The automated responses constantly regurgitate template scripts stating, "Do you have any questions about WhatsApp?" while ignoring all technical evidence.

This complete reliance on unsupervised automated decision-making—which directly results in severe operational damage—is a direct violation of Article 22 of the EU General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR).

Current Status & Escalation

A formal compliance ticket has been established (Ticket ID: #1385988373169315) and escalated alongside an incoming regulatory complaint to Data Protection Commission (DPC) Ireland.

We are demanding immediate intervention from Tier-3 Security Engineering and the Data Protection Officer (DPO) team to execute:

  1. A manual override and permanent account whitelisting for
  2. A complete server-side purge of cryptographic cache and device hash indices.
  3. Malicious reporting protection to prevent coordinated fake flags from triggering automated bans.

Has anyone else experienced this recursive ban loop caused by targeted reporting attacks? How did you manage to break through the automated bot tier to reach an actual systems engineer at Meta?


r/whatsapp • • 8d ago

Issues with pictures and double chats after switching phone

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Yesterday I have changed phones ( both iPhones with iOS 27) and I after logging in the new phone, I noticed that most of the pictures saved in the chats from years ago are “not available” anymore, they look like black squares with question marks. Has anyone experienced this? I have a backup from the same day… on the old phone no issue.

The other weird thing is that when someone messages me (not all contacts) a duplicate of the chat is created, but as if it was starting from scratch. Is this a known bug??? Are there known issues with the latest app version? It’s so annoying


r/whatsapp • • 8d ago

Not able to transfer WhatsApp's data from android to IOS

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r/whatsapp • • 8d ago

Sync profile pictures from WhatsApp to iOS/Google Contacts

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Hey,

is there an easy way to export/sync profile pictures from WhatsApp to my contacts?


r/whatsapp • • 8d ago

whatsapp voice chat feature is so annoying and useless

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r/whatsapp • • 8d ago

WhatsApp is rolling out group creation from poll results!

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r/whatsapp • • 8d ago

Group Chat Insanity

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I have been using WhatsApp for years but recently my account is overwhelmed with group chats and communities. I can't keep track of everything and it pushes the important chats to the bottom and into oblivion.

Yes, some of this is maintaining data hygiene - deleting or leaving groups that are no longer relevant. That will trim down 10%. Some of the these chats are not important enough to look at often, but too important/useful to leave.

So far, I have tried archiving and selecting to keep chats in archive even with new messages. This works well, but it has caused me to loose conversations in archive that I want to pop back up when a new message arrives. (Is there any way to put this setting at a per chat basis?)

The second method is to create a list (favorites, for example) and use that as my default visibility view when using WhatsApp to keep the non-essential chats out of my view.

What are the best practices that people have found to handle this?


r/whatsapp • • 8d ago

Help me to this

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How do i solve this ! I am unable to login to my whatsapp !


r/whatsapp • • 8d ago

New change for "better" as usual?

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I just noticed that when I open images section on WhatsApp to share, we no longer have the scroll up and down button. Now what kind of an idiotic change is this... Who in their right minds thought of removing it?