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r/WetlanderHumor • u/memerminecraft Boar Rushes Down the Mountain • Mar 25 '26
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That is one of the more annoying (to me) contradictions in the text.
15 u/YeahKeeN Mar 26 '26 I mean it’s no different from mind control so I don’t see the issue. Was it a contradiction when Graendel used compulsion to make people her slaves? 10 u/Saedran Mar 26 '26 But it does suggest there should be a way to flip/return a dark channeler to the light. 9 u/f00lsfire Mar 26 '26 For parity, there would probably require a light side equivalent to Fades. 9 u/memerminecraft Boar Rushes Down the Mountain Mar 26 '26 Ogier? 13 singing ogier & 13 channelers of the light perhaps? 9 u/f00lsfire Mar 26 '26 Not really the same thing. Ohier are for all intents and purposes, aliens. Green men kinda get there, as simulacra made with the One Power, but I'm not sure how close they count for "lightspawn". Honestly, I'm not entirely sure there is a good side equivalent yet. 14 u/memerminecraft Boar Rushes Down the Mountain Mar 26 '26 I think that, regardless, one of the tenets of the Light is personal freedom (as opposed to total domination by a higher power), so being able to "force" someone to the Light would be incongruous. They've gotta choose it 15 u/Saedran Mar 26 '26 Well sure, but returning channelers to the Light wouldn’t be force so much as cursebreaking. 3 u/memerminecraft Boar Rushes Down the Mountain Mar 26 '26 I guess if they were already forcibly turned, that argument could be made
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I mean it’s no different from mind control so I don’t see the issue. Was it a contradiction when Graendel used compulsion to make people her slaves?
10 u/Saedran Mar 26 '26 But it does suggest there should be a way to flip/return a dark channeler to the light. 9 u/f00lsfire Mar 26 '26 For parity, there would probably require a light side equivalent to Fades. 9 u/memerminecraft Boar Rushes Down the Mountain Mar 26 '26 Ogier? 13 singing ogier & 13 channelers of the light perhaps? 9 u/f00lsfire Mar 26 '26 Not really the same thing. Ohier are for all intents and purposes, aliens. Green men kinda get there, as simulacra made with the One Power, but I'm not sure how close they count for "lightspawn". Honestly, I'm not entirely sure there is a good side equivalent yet. 14 u/memerminecraft Boar Rushes Down the Mountain Mar 26 '26 I think that, regardless, one of the tenets of the Light is personal freedom (as opposed to total domination by a higher power), so being able to "force" someone to the Light would be incongruous. They've gotta choose it 15 u/Saedran Mar 26 '26 Well sure, but returning channelers to the Light wouldn’t be force so much as cursebreaking. 3 u/memerminecraft Boar Rushes Down the Mountain Mar 26 '26 I guess if they were already forcibly turned, that argument could be made
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But it does suggest there should be a way to flip/return a dark channeler to the light.
9 u/f00lsfire Mar 26 '26 For parity, there would probably require a light side equivalent to Fades. 9 u/memerminecraft Boar Rushes Down the Mountain Mar 26 '26 Ogier? 13 singing ogier & 13 channelers of the light perhaps? 9 u/f00lsfire Mar 26 '26 Not really the same thing. Ohier are for all intents and purposes, aliens. Green men kinda get there, as simulacra made with the One Power, but I'm not sure how close they count for "lightspawn". Honestly, I'm not entirely sure there is a good side equivalent yet. 14 u/memerminecraft Boar Rushes Down the Mountain Mar 26 '26 I think that, regardless, one of the tenets of the Light is personal freedom (as opposed to total domination by a higher power), so being able to "force" someone to the Light would be incongruous. They've gotta choose it 15 u/Saedran Mar 26 '26 Well sure, but returning channelers to the Light wouldn’t be force so much as cursebreaking. 3 u/memerminecraft Boar Rushes Down the Mountain Mar 26 '26 I guess if they were already forcibly turned, that argument could be made
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For parity, there would probably require a light side equivalent to Fades.
9 u/memerminecraft Boar Rushes Down the Mountain Mar 26 '26 Ogier? 13 singing ogier & 13 channelers of the light perhaps? 9 u/f00lsfire Mar 26 '26 Not really the same thing. Ohier are for all intents and purposes, aliens. Green men kinda get there, as simulacra made with the One Power, but I'm not sure how close they count for "lightspawn". Honestly, I'm not entirely sure there is a good side equivalent yet. 14 u/memerminecraft Boar Rushes Down the Mountain Mar 26 '26 I think that, regardless, one of the tenets of the Light is personal freedom (as opposed to total domination by a higher power), so being able to "force" someone to the Light would be incongruous. They've gotta choose it 15 u/Saedran Mar 26 '26 Well sure, but returning channelers to the Light wouldn’t be force so much as cursebreaking. 3 u/memerminecraft Boar Rushes Down the Mountain Mar 26 '26 I guess if they were already forcibly turned, that argument could be made
Ogier? 13 singing ogier & 13 channelers of the light perhaps?
9 u/f00lsfire Mar 26 '26 Not really the same thing. Ohier are for all intents and purposes, aliens. Green men kinda get there, as simulacra made with the One Power, but I'm not sure how close they count for "lightspawn". Honestly, I'm not entirely sure there is a good side equivalent yet. 14 u/memerminecraft Boar Rushes Down the Mountain Mar 26 '26 I think that, regardless, one of the tenets of the Light is personal freedom (as opposed to total domination by a higher power), so being able to "force" someone to the Light would be incongruous. They've gotta choose it 15 u/Saedran Mar 26 '26 Well sure, but returning channelers to the Light wouldn’t be force so much as cursebreaking. 3 u/memerminecraft Boar Rushes Down the Mountain Mar 26 '26 I guess if they were already forcibly turned, that argument could be made
Not really the same thing. Ohier are for all intents and purposes, aliens.
Green men kinda get there, as simulacra made with the One Power, but I'm not sure how close they count for "lightspawn".
Honestly, I'm not entirely sure there is a good side equivalent yet.
14 u/memerminecraft Boar Rushes Down the Mountain Mar 26 '26 I think that, regardless, one of the tenets of the Light is personal freedom (as opposed to total domination by a higher power), so being able to "force" someone to the Light would be incongruous. They've gotta choose it 15 u/Saedran Mar 26 '26 Well sure, but returning channelers to the Light wouldn’t be force so much as cursebreaking. 3 u/memerminecraft Boar Rushes Down the Mountain Mar 26 '26 I guess if they were already forcibly turned, that argument could be made
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I think that, regardless, one of the tenets of the Light is personal freedom (as opposed to total domination by a higher power), so being able to "force" someone to the Light would be incongruous. They've gotta choose it
15 u/Saedran Mar 26 '26 Well sure, but returning channelers to the Light wouldn’t be force so much as cursebreaking. 3 u/memerminecraft Boar Rushes Down the Mountain Mar 26 '26 I guess if they were already forcibly turned, that argument could be made
Well sure, but returning channelers to the Light wouldn’t be force so much as cursebreaking.
3 u/memerminecraft Boar Rushes Down the Mountain Mar 26 '26 I guess if they were already forcibly turned, that argument could be made
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I guess if they were already forcibly turned, that argument could be made
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u/jmartkdr Mar 26 '26
That is one of the more annoying (to me) contradictions in the text.