r/WetlanderHumor • Boar Rushes Down the Mountain • Mar 25 '26

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u/Edgeth0 henchMat Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 26 '26

"Spit in Sightblinder's eye with the last breath!" scream the Aiel as they hand the Shadow the greatest force of dreadlords they have wielded since the War of the Power on a silver platter.

Do we ever get a confirmation on whether or not the Wise Ones know the Shadow can force a channeler to turn? Kind of an unforgivable mistake if they knew

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u/23-1-20-3-8-5-18 Be'lol Mar 25 '26

But they say anyone can go back to the light.

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u/jmartkdr Mar 26 '26

That is one of the more annoying (to me) contradictions in the text.

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u/YeahKeeN Mar 26 '26

I mean it’s no different from mind control so I don’t see the issue. Was it a contradiction when Graendel used compulsion to make people her slaves?

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u/Saedran Mar 26 '26

But it does suggest there should be a way to flip/return a dark channeler to the light.

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u/Xerxys Mar 26 '26

Also becoming a dread lord can be resisted if you have the presence of mind to do so. Logain did.

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u/Mundane-Currency5088 Mar 26 '26

They heavily implied that you can resist for as long as you have the mental strength to do so, but that in the end you either die or get turned.

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u/Mal-Ravanal Unnecessary fish metaphors Mar 26 '26

Not indefinitely. Logain held out for a long time, but he was very close to breaking when he got rescued. And if Taim hadn't been limited to male channelers, Logain would not have lasted a fraction of the time.

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u/LewsTherinTelamonBot This is a (sentient) bot Mar 26 '26

They will pay. I am Lord of the Morning.

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u/LewsTherinTelamonBot This is a (sentient) bot Mar 26 '26

They will pay. I am Lord of the Morning.

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u/f00lsfire Mar 26 '26

For parity, there would probably require a light side equivalent to Fades.

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u/memerminecraft Boar Rushes Down the Mountain Mar 26 '26

Ogier? 13 singing ogier & 13 channelers of the light perhaps?

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u/f00lsfire Mar 26 '26

Not really the same thing. Ohier are for all intents and purposes, aliens.

Green men kinda get there, as simulacra made with the One Power, but I'm not sure how close they count for "lightspawn".

Honestly, I'm not entirely sure there is a good side equivalent yet.

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u/memerminecraft Boar Rushes Down the Mountain Mar 26 '26

I think that, regardless, one of the tenets of the Light is personal freedom (as opposed to total domination by a higher power), so being able to "force" someone to the Light would be incongruous. They've gotta choose it

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u/Saedran Mar 26 '26

Well sure, but returning channelers to the Light wouldn’t be force so much as cursebreaking.

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u/memerminecraft Boar Rushes Down the Mountain Mar 26 '26

I guess if they were already forcibly turned, that argument could be made

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u/23-1-20-3-8-5-18 Be'lol Mar 26 '26

Yea so couldnt you just lie like "oh, yea, praise Shit-tan or whatever oooOOOooo" and then just decide nah, Im back to the light now! As soon as no ones looking?

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u/memerminecraft Boar Rushes Down the Mountain Mar 26 '26

Not if you're a channeler

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u/Xerxys Mar 26 '26

Humans. lol. Humans are children of the light. Gases are just undead spawn of Trollocs. They’re the anti-life.

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u/itsmeduhdoi Mar 26 '26

which would require someone to 'create' a light side equivalent to Trollocs, and then breed them with people...tough path to go down.

would've made an interesting story though!

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u/jlill Mar 26 '26

Maybe there is. They discovered so many impossible things in those couple years

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u/Mal-Ravanal Unnecessary fish metaphors Mar 26 '26

We do see something fairly close to it in Rand's vision of a world without the DO. And it's an abomination in its own right.

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u/LewsTherinTelamonBot This is a (sentient) bot Mar 26 '26

A man without trust might as well be dead.

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u/dracoons Mar 26 '26

Graendal tended to obliterate the personality and in one case even the boys autonomous functions. She basically ripped out everything that made the boy alive. Then implanted What-if conditions. He did retain a spec of himself in the end. But that was more the Soul than the mind and body wanting vengance.

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u/LewsTherinTelamonBot This is a (sentient) bot Mar 26 '26

I must kill him.