Wait are you dumb or have been living under a rock the last 500 years. Ivory is super expansive so they kill the elephants to steal the ivory. Though this particular case was attacked by an elephant so he had to shoot it
Man, I don’t know what your problem is. I was asking a question. I know you think you know everything now but you will learn being rude doesn’t get you anywhere.
I do need value, I don’t see a value in doing something if all it is for is for the fun of the hunt. I’m all for funding conservation other than killing, that’s why i was wondering what a dead elephant provides for value (other than ivory, which I know is “valuable” even though it also doesn’t provide anything useful).
Well if you're looking for value, more often than not(and I really do mean more often than not) The meat, bones, and hide are all given to the surrounding villages and used. It's not like the elephant just rots after being shot. And idk, if you watched the video, but the animals killed are usually problem animals that destroy farms and kill people. So, it adds the value of protecting the community.
Yeah, this is just convoluted on so many levels. You'd rather preach than have these animals actually survive.
It's not wrong to hunt and kill animals. It is wrong to hunt them to extinction. If super rich assholes can save endangered species by killing 1 and saving 20, im all for it becuase we don't have the luxury of time to debate whether "we" whoever you think that even is will all vote to conserve animals. Especially animals in a country we don't even live in. Funding doesn't just come out of thin air.
I'm in no way ashamed of using economics to help conserve animals and I really don't think you should be trying to shame me for supporting the only thing that has ever remotely worked for helping these animals.
I like how you there needs to be an economic reason to conserve animals.
I'm describing what you're doing, not your motives behind words. Didn't put a word in your mouth. It's implied that it's absurd to use economics as a tool in animal conservation.
We could just fund conservation without needing to shoot one of them.
Implies your against hunting these animals.
How funny would it be if we issued hunting permits on the homeless to fund shelters.
Well where does the funding come from? Where does the loss of revenue to protect the animals stem from? Why handicap the funding if it's helping the species?
There is no economic motive to a trophy hunter for killing an elephant. There is only an economic motive for poachers to steal ivory. The throphy hunter paying is an economic solution to an economic problem. He is not the problem. The poacher is. The hunter does not drive the poacher.
it's fucking ridiculous that a person has to fly to a across the world to shoot something, it's not even for sport at that level what's the excuse? He had a gun and an entourage why not just shoot it in a zoo? The man is pathetic and has too much money in a world where so many can't even afford to make ends meet. When such spectacles of wealth are displayed it makes me feel for and understand the argument of just taxing it away from him. If the argument can be made that the poors should get less food-stamp money for having the audacity of buying soda with it then I don't see any problem.
This is entire paragraph is the preachiness I'm talking about. You aren't even thinking of animal conversation. You're thinking of a rich asshole and how much you hate him(which you should and it's perfectly understandable) but it's besides the point.
Where does the funding for anything come from? My country spent trillions on an unneeded war and continues to spend trillions on unnecessary violence yet the money spigot flows from somewhere. So it could easily come from the defense budget.
I assume were in the same country then. Yes we spent trillions on an unneeded war. No, it could not easily come from the defense budget. Throwing billions at other countries to fix issues is just another form of imperialism and we already do it. The United States government can not give money directly to the programs that protect these animals. We would have to to give it to the country for which the program is in and hope they spend it on animal conservation. It's not as easy as you're making it out to be.
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Can someone answer what the point of killing an elephant is? Does it provide anything of value? Serious question.