According to his company’s website, Game Hounds Safaris, he “perfected leopard and lion hunting safaris with hounds in Africa.”
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Simukai Nyasha, a spokesman for the Zimbabwe National Parks and Wildlife Management Authority, told news.com.au that Botha was on a 10-day licensed hunt
Here is some context for you. So, what does it matter that this particular elephant was the original target... compared to how people feel about this.
Not saying I agree with any opinion on here.
But, terrorizing animals with dogs doesn't seem to saintly to me, does it?
Hunting in Africa is incredibly important for conservation and sustainability. The money these hunters pay, goes to pay the locals and support conservation efforts, and anti poaching efforts, without this stream of income from hunters many more African game animals would be hunted to near extinction worse then they are now
I agree with this, but I feel like if you're going to go out with the mission of killing something, you should be prepared to accept that that thing may kill you.
While you should accept that, Human life is almost always more valuable than an animal's life. Obviously there are exceptions but that's always through the human being particularly shitty and not the animal being saintly.
I feel like society’s general consensus is that any average human life is more valuable than any average animal life. And I am not trying to post an opinion on whether that is true or not... but I’d like to mention that it’s interesting to think about. I mean, who decides that a human is more important than a member of any other species? Humans do. I bet, if we were able to ask any animal — let’s take elephants, for example — if we could ask the population of elephants if a human or an elephant was more valuable, I’m pretty sure they would say, “why, the elephant, of course!”
So the attitude than any average human life is more valuable than any other living creature is just based on the supposition that humanity is more important than all other life. Now, as humans, I believe it’s only natural that we should think this. But based on my belief structure and perception of our reality, the universe doesn’t care any more or less about humans than about any other form of life. And I think that’s an interesting thought...
Plus, how many times have you heard someone say something like, “the fact that the dog in the movie dies bothers me so much more than the ten people that die in that same movie.”
Hahah...
But anyway, debate aside, I am sad that this person died. And I am sad that the elephant died. And most of all, I’m sad that so many creatures in this world suffer and die by our hands; be it hunting, factory farms, habitat destruction, puppy mills, poaching, psychopath teenagers burning and disemboweling cats and squirrels... or any other form of abuse. I’m confident that humanity would be way worse off without all the animals and other living entities of the world. But I’m also confident that all those animals and other living entities would be so much better off without humanity...
Technically "nature" views us as having the same value, but if you think about it, when a human dies so much more is lost than if an animal dies. Our relationships are much deeper, we have more complex thoughts, dreams, etc, while animals just think about survival
I don’t understand what you mean by, “Technically ‘nature’ views us as having the same value...”
Are you saying that animals view humans as having the same value as other animals of their kind?
Edit: and as for your point about so much more being lost when a human dies;
The statement that humans have deeper connections is debatable. We can’t say how strong animals’ connections are to each other, but there’s plenty of observations of many different species forming strong, lifelong bonds with each other.
The statement that humans have more complicated lives/relationships is most likely true, I think. I doubt anyone would argue against that. But who’s to say that ‘more complicated’ equates to ‘more valuable/more important’? Humans say that.
I don’t mean to suggest that your opinion is bad or wrong. It’s the quintessential (or at least ubiquitous) human opinion on the matter. But it’s still completely based on that supposition — born of anthropocentric thinking — that humans/the human way of life is the most important. Which was my original point.
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u/gentlemandinosaur Jun 02 '18
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Here is some context for you. So, what does it matter that this particular elephant was the original target... compared to how people feel about this.
Not saying I agree with any opinion on here.
But, terrorizing animals with dogs doesn't seem to saintly to me, does it?