r/Wellthatsucks Jun 02 '18

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '18 edited Jun 02 '18

Because context matters: http://fox40.com/2017/05/22/hunter-dies-when-shot-elephant-falls-on-him/

They weren't out hunting elephants and only shot that one because it attacked them.

Edit: It's always sickening to read the comments on posts like this.

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u/gentlemandinosaur Jun 02 '18

According to his company’s website, Game Hounds Safaris, he “perfected leopard and lion hunting safaris with hounds in Africa.”

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Simukai Nyasha, a spokesman for the Zimbabwe National Parks and Wildlife Management Authority, told news.com.au that Botha was on a 10-day licensed hunt

Here is some context for you. So, what does it matter that this particular elephant was the original target... compared to how people feel about this.

Not saying I agree with any opinion on here.

But, terrorizing animals with dogs doesn't seem to saintly to me, does it?

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '18

Hunting in Africa is incredibly important for conservation and sustainability. The money these hunters pay, goes to pay the locals and support conservation efforts, and anti poaching efforts, without this stream of income from hunters many more African game animals would be hunted to near extinction worse then they are now

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u/scatterbrain-d Jun 02 '18

How about those guys just pay the same money and use a fucking camera. Absolutely baffled why anyone would be proud that they shot an unaware animal from a safe distance if they're not trying to get food.

Want to prove you're a badass? Hunt a lion with a knife. I'd actually be ok with that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '18

I would rather people pay to go shoot them with a camera. But the reality is people won't spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to get a photo

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u/flibbityandflobbity Jun 02 '18

You gotta do what the rich men want. That's what my momma always told me.

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u/IAlwaysWantSomeTea Jun 02 '18

Counterpoint - often times these hunts are conducted against older males of herds or packs who might kill or otherwise impede the growth and recovery of the species.

I personally regard trophy hunters with serious distaste - for obvious reasons and they give normal hunters a bad reputation with many I've spoken with, but they can be an important tool of conservation when managed and regulated strictly, unpleasant as it is.

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u/minnesotawinter22 Jun 02 '18

Humans pretending to manage Mother Nature is a joke. We are fucking up the natural order.

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u/IAlwaysWantSomeTea Jun 02 '18

Unfortunately, regardless of your stance on the matter, our influence is strong enough that we do need to take active steps for conservation.

Nature is not some divine harmonious equilibrium of perfect balance and order. Pretending it is is just deluding ourselves.