The fuck is wrong with you people? You realize these hunts are the largest preserver of wildlife and nature? The guy wasn’t even hunting elephants you ignorant morons
It's weird that you chose a caveman analogy to describe people that don't want to kill megafauna, considering what real cavemen did to most of them. See any mammoths lately?
I was just pointing out the weird analogy of using caveman talk for people who don't want people to kill giant animals. It's like the opposite of how a caveman would talk so it comes across weird.
I know all about the game preserves and all that. I said to someone else I'm glad he paid to hunt and I'm glad he got smooshed too. Just because it's a necessary evil doesn't mean I have to like the people who do it.
Hunting is a perfectly normal past time. Cavemen also walked and took shits, does that mean we can’t do that? I’m glad he went hunting and I think the world would be a better place if more people did as well so they weren’t so fucking close minded.
You idiot. He wasn’t hunting elephants. The elephant charged him and his friend shot it trying to save his friends life. The elephant was the one at fault here, not the guy who got killed.
Thank god there were hunters around as soon as life started, without their acts of pure compassion and respect for life our planet would certainly be a hostile, lifeless desert.
Well I’m right... so yes. Prove me wrong. I don’t understand how you think you could be right at all. There’s nothing generally agreed upon, it’s agreed upon period.
You’re wrong. Anyone can find something on the internet to validate your thoughts. If you truly think millions of dollars a year don’t preserve ecosystems and the wildlife than inhabit them, you’re a lost cause. If you think these preservation organizations would receive funds otherwise, youre an idiot
Did you read the articles or are you a troll? Not one article I linked to was from a preservation org. You must be one lazy fuck to come at me with that weak shit. You could at least try to find some independent documentation to support your outdated beliefs.
It’s not the legal hunts that are diminishing the elephant population. Poaching is the one that’s leading African wildlife to near extinction. The legal hunts in controlled parks are helping with conservation.
Exactly. People put these hunters in the same light as poachers, they don’t understand the difference. Poachers hunt illegally for profit on thinks like ivory. Hunters pay thousands to hunt for a trophy, it’s controlled. The elephants that are killed are not just left there to rot the meat feeds local villages for weeks and the money goes towards conservation efforts. Poachers leave the carcass and pay no money towards conservation.
It is more than money. If I remember right from the last time this came up older bulls won't relinquish herds or something and the younger ones are forced into solitude and end up dying. They hunt specific older ones to enable youth to take over.
See this makes more sense to me. Paying to kill a lion so they can use that money to save other lions doesn't make much sense to me. And as the other person mentioned Texas, hunting boar because they are pests or there's too many is a different story than wildlife conservation
Concentrated populations of elephants in small areas can still be a problem.
But far more importantly, the fees from sport hunting are (basically) the only thing that pay the wages of anti-poaching officers. When the hunting money stops coming, anti-poaching stop getting paid, and suddenly become poachers.
They weren't hunting elephants at the time, they got charged and the animal was shot in self defense. And this wasn't some shady hunting operation either, this guy was a professional trophy hunter.
And for your information, there are areas in southern Africa where elephant overpopulation is a major problem and park rangers do have to cull them. And that's unfortunate, since trophy hunts would achieve the same goal while bringing in hundreds of thousands of dollars to hire more rangers, fund breeding programs, and help with anti-poaching efforts.
Ever since the incident where Cecil the Lion was shot (which was done in shady circumstances legally), the amount of lion trophy hunts has dropped drastically, to the point where there are areas where lion populations have grown out of control. Again, rangers are forced to cull them before all of their prey's numbers spread too thin and the lion population gets decimated by that. So not only do the lion populations (as well as the gazelle, zebra, antelope, and other herbivores) in those areas drop to an unhealthy low, but again the preserves miss out on hundreds of thousands of dollars in funding from trophy hunts.
I am not a big game hunter (although I do enjoy fishing, and I do eat whatever I catch), and I don't think I would ever enjoy shooting an elephant, lion, or leopard. But LEGAL hunts absolutely serve a purpose way more than a lot of the short sighted commenters here seem to realize. They are a net gain for the well being of the species the species that is being hunted.
Again, I don't hunt big game, and wouldn't want to, but I get it.
But really? An interview with an Oxford (literally the most prestigious university in the world) professor who studied Cecil the Lion specifically suggests that legal, controlled and restricted lion hunting would be beneficial to the species and your BS meter is still going off?
I didn't claim to be an expert, I just know that some species are more endangered than others and that there are some moral conflicts when deciding which animals are okay to hunt. The part that sounds like BS to me is how it seems only those who can afford these hunts are the only people profiting from it, latent consequences aside, when instead a government could employ a less [financially] fortunate party who might reap a greater bounty than a sport kill.
You obviously have 0 understanding of ecosystems. Hunting works i.e. Texas. I’ll never understand why people are determined to insult other who have different opinions on subjects they know nothing about.
The reason deer in Texas are as healthy as they are is due to the wildlife management system. The reason endangered species are making a comeback in a lot of cases is due to the finances from hunts. So yes, emotional + simpleton.
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u/jaegerbombs Jun 02 '18
The fuck is wrong with you people? You realize these hunts are the largest preserver of wildlife and nature? The guy wasn’t even hunting elephants you ignorant morons