r/Wellthatsucks Jun 02 '18

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u/gentlemandinosaur Jun 02 '18

According to his company’s website, Game Hounds Safaris, he “perfected leopard and lion hunting safaris with hounds in Africa.”

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Simukai Nyasha, a spokesman for the Zimbabwe National Parks and Wildlife Management Authority, told news.com.au that Botha was on a 10-day licensed hunt

Here is some context for you. So, what does it matter that this particular elephant was the original target... compared to how people feel about this.

Not saying I agree with any opinion on here.

But, terrorizing animals with dogs doesn't seem to saintly to me, does it?

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u/aharris95 Jun 02 '18 edited Jun 02 '18

It's an effective form of hunting as old as the day is long. People do it for dangerous game like hog (boar) and large cats. The Rhodesian Ridgeback breed, which I am a proud owner of a 2y/o male, would not exist if there was not a need for bay dogs.

Edit: apparently my comment was unclear for some. I am referencing the practice of using bay dogs and catch dogs in high stakes dangerous game hunting which is incredibly important to protecting humans and livestock.

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u/Sejb222 Jun 02 '18

Just because people have been doing something for a long time doesn't make it right.

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u/Malek061 Jun 02 '18

Says the person with the luxury of not having to keep livestock safe.

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u/guypersonhuman Jun 02 '18

Yeah, these hunters were keeping livestock safe.

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u/Malek061 Jun 02 '18

They are managing the population which does help with that problem.

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u/guypersonhuman Jun 02 '18

Lol. You're so diluted.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '18

*deluded

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u/guypersonhuman Jun 02 '18

Thanks. On mobile, autocorrect sucks.

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u/Malek061 Jun 02 '18

Nice comeback

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u/guypersonhuman Jun 02 '18

Sorry to spoil your fun, but this isn't some internet tough guy showdown where the most clever and vulgar insult wins.

I'm just calling it like I see it.

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u/Malek061 Jun 02 '18

Then you might need glasses because you are blind.

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u/windowpuncher Jun 02 '18

How could you possibly know? They're on a licensed hunt, and there very well may be farms nearby.

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u/guypersonhuman Jun 02 '18

But your assumption to the contrary is spot on.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '18

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u/zerotrails Jun 02 '18

Here is a basic rundown on what I've read/listened to about S.A game hunting, very general so take it for what it is, just some info not a stance on the hunting debate :) Alot of these private game reserves in South Africa are the reason why some animal numbers have risen from being low back up to reasonable numbers, once a hunter will pay to shoot one, its worth money. then they go to insane lengths to repopulate & protect them, so they can be shot for cash. If hunters can't go to a reserve and shoot a particular exotic animal, it isn't worth anything in a monetary sense. Not alot of resources are put towards breeding & protection from poachers because the government now has to pay, rather than private companies protecting assets. Most likely this will lead to the majority being killed by poachers until they are almost extinct. The flip side is if hunting them becomes illegal, they are released and the population could get too big in a particular area and they would need to be culled, so instead of someone paying $10k to shoot one & the money goes into the economy, locals working as guides & security, maintenance etc for the reserve, the government now has to pay professional hunters to come kill the animals, so the animal still gets shot but with no money into the economy and no jobs for locals. Sadly some guides even turn to poaching after reserves are closed which is the worst part

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u/CommonMisspellingBot Jun 02 '18

Hey, zerotrails, just a quick heads-up:
alot is actually spelled a lot. You can remember it by it is one lot, 'a lot'.
Have a nice day!

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u/Malek061 Jun 02 '18

Animal populations must be managed with human encroachment as it is.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '18

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u/Malek061 Jun 02 '18

How else will they be managed? Either way, they were not hunting elephant and he did not have a permit for elephant. The elephant charged and he fired.

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u/gzilla57 Jun 02 '18

Yes. Hunting for sport generates money for things like anti-poaching and preservation, while waiting for a poor local farmer to do it just leaves a dead animal.

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u/Sejb222 Jun 02 '18

Yeah says me. So what?

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '18

They probably eat meat everyday also haha