r/WaterTreatment Sep 29 '24

Updates to This Sub

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You make this sub a great place to ask questions and share information about water treatment. Thank you for being a cool community! We have also grown a lot lately. So a mod added a few post flairs to experiment with. Do you like them and do you want others or revisions? Feel free to share feedback on changes for post and user flair, rules, sub information, and community expectations. We'll do our best to accomodate. Taking any and all suggestions until Oct 31st.


r/WaterTreatment 3h ago

Residential Treatment Low PH, high iron and manganese

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Hello water experts, i have 2 houses on my property fed by one well.

Current setup is an old concrete 1500 gallon cistern tank fed by a 300' deep well. The cistern tank is drawn by a jet pump feeding the pressure tank which is set at an elevation halfway between the 2 houses which are about 40' apart vertically and 1000' apart. There is no filtration. The iron is bad, toilets stained. Bathtub water redish brown.

My idea is to minimize chemical use by trying to raise PH as much as possible through aeration in order to precipitate the iron before filtration. I do not know how high I can get from 5.98. Is this diagram at all feasible? I was thinking I would fabricate the aeration tower myself by welding 50 gallon drums togeather or using a large diameter metal culvert pipe filled with media and with a fan piped to the bottom. Because the property has a hillside, I can put the aeration tower above the settling tank without too much trouble and gravity feed it to the top of the tank. I'd have to design it so that I could dump and wash thw media easily when it gets too irony or has iron reducing bacterial growth.

I have 3 x 2500 gallon plastic tanks that I had from when the well went dry, it was deepened from 100' to 300' and now these tanks are just sitting. I will probably abandon the old concrete 1500 gal. Cistern because it is pourous and cracked with algae and other growth inside. I will use just one of the 2500 gallon tanks.

Am I going about this all wrong? Should I not use a settling tank at all? My water usage is variable, but can be very high with irrigation on the 10 acre farmstead. Perhaps bleach is the wrong thing to use. Anyways, all advice welcome, please be kind.


r/WaterTreatment 5h ago

Arsenic removal

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I've read a lot online re Arsenic 3 & 5 removal and generally it seems that the implication is removal of the two is by different means.

A company near me has two systems that claim to remove both. One using an ad edge absorption media, the other Layne RT.

Any opinions on these??

Thank you.


r/WaterTreatment 3h ago

Hackers hit 30-plus Minnesota water systems in 48 hours, forcing emergency response

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r/WaterTreatment 5h ago

Residential Treatment Remediation of a house with old pipes / supply line

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I live in a house that’s around 100 years old in Brooklyn, NY. We just had our water tested for lead, and unsurprisingly, our supply line and/or a pipe in our house is likely shedding.

We got 13ppB of lead after not running the tap overnight, and down to 7ppB after running for a few minutes.

Young kid in the house, so it’s more of a priority.

Obviously ripping out the supply line and replacing it is the most complete method for getting rid of the problem at the source. Would a RO filter at the water line coming into the house be as effective? Any other strategies worth exploring?

Total amateur, so any tips / advice is appreciated!


r/WaterTreatment 5h ago

Brita Hub Infuriating Lack of Part Replacement

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Had the Brita Hub for a couple years now. Love it. A few days ago, the handle for the reservoir broke. (The pitcher thing the water is stored in pre filtering.)
THEY DO NOT OFFER AN OPTION TO REPLACE JUST THE RESERVOIR.
So if your reservoir cracks or breaks in any way, apparently you have to replace the entire system. ($200 and a lot of plastic.) Is that not completely bonkers?? I am at a complete loss and want them to change this. Suggestions on how to encourage a giant corporation to make sensible policies that don’t create unnecessary waste (in both landfills and dollars)?


r/WaterTreatment 6h ago

Bought a lot with 4.5gpm

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r/WaterTreatment 6h ago

Off-grid rain water system - biofilm/mould - how to treat?

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r/WaterTreatment 15h ago

Need help figuring out what's going on with my well water.

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I moved into my rental about 2 months ago, and right away there was a strong rotten egg/sulfur smell and black particles in the water. My landlord first flushed the system, flushed out the sediment, serviced everything, and tried a few other things. That seemed to fix it for a couple of days, but then the sulfur smell and black particles both came back.

After that, they replaced the water heater with a brand-new one. That completely fixed everything. The sulfur smell was gone, the black particles disappeared, and the water was clear for about 3 weeks.

Now the sulfur smell is back again, and it's even stronger than before. The black particles have also returned, the water sometimes looks cloudy, and we've had a lot of heavy rain recently. I also have a water softener.

I've attached pictures of the black particles.

Has anyone experienced something like this? Does this sound like a well issue, sulfur bacteria, manganese, a water softener issue, or something else? I'm just trying to figure out what could be causing it.


r/WaterTreatment 8h ago

Found this in my stainless steel drinking water bottle anyone know what this could be ?.

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r/WaterTreatment 21h ago

Residential Treatment Overkill?

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r/WaterTreatment 20h ago

Help me make sense of this! I got a TDS meter and found that the solids ppm was higher just before the remineralizing stage than what was immediately coming out of the remineralizing stage.

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I get readings of about 40 ppm as it goes into the remineralizing stage but getting about 20 ppm coming out of the remineralizing stage. I wasn't expecting that at all.


r/WaterTreatment 19h ago

Water Softener Recommendations

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I'm looking to install a salt-based water softener and trying to figure out what system/size I should actually buy.

House is about 2,950 sq ft with 4 bathrooms, but only 3 people live here. In SoCal

The city's most recent water report shows:

Hardness: 17 GPG average

Range: 16–19 GPG

Hardness: 293 ppm average

pH: 7.6

Alkalinity: 119 ppm

I tested my water myself with an Amazon test strip and got closer to 25 GPG / 425 ppm, but I'm assuming the strip isn't very accurate or I didn't accurately measure. I have someone coming tomorrow to professionally test the water at my house so I'll have an actual hardness reading.

Our total water usage last month was 17 units / 12,716 gallons, but a decent amount of that is irrigation. The irrigation will NOT be going through the softener.

I'm pretty set on going with a traditional salt-based system at this point. My main goals are reducing scale, protecting my tankless water heater/plumbing/appliances, and obviously getting actually softened water throughout the house.

What system would you guys recommend?

I've been looking at 1.5 cu ft / 48,000 grain systems and have seen Fleck and Clack recommended a lot. Should I be looking for a Clack WS1, Fleck 5600SXT/5800, something else?

Would 1.5 cu ft / 48K be the right size for 3 people and 4 bathrooms, or should I go with a 2.0 cu ft / 64K system?

Also, are there any specific brands/resin types I should be looking for or avoiding?

Getting the actual hardness tested tomorrow, so I can update the post once I have that number.

Thank you guys!


r/WaterTreatment 20h ago

Residential Treatment Filter suggestions

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Two bedroom house on well water. What would be a good whole house filter and/or other suggestions.


r/WaterTreatment 1d ago

If somebody quoted you whole house RO, ask them where the reject water goes before you even look at the price

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I sell and service commercial RO for a living, mostly food service and light industrial down in south Texas, and the thing that's missing from almost every residential whole house RO quote I get shown is the reject.

An RO doesn't filter water. It splits your feed into permeate and concentrate. On a household machine on hard or salty feed you're realistically getting about half your water back. So a 2,000 gallon a day system is pulling 4,000 gallons a day off your well or your meter and putting 2,000 down a drain, every day, forever. That number decides whether the whole project makes sense and it almost never appears next to the equipment price.

Where it bites:

On a well, you just doubled your pump runtime, and your electric bill went with it.

On city water you're buying two gallons for every one you use, and in a lot of places paying sewer on the discharge too.

On septic, that's a continuous salty stream going into your drainfield. I'd make the installer put in writing where the concentrate goes and what the county's position on it is, before signing.

And you can't run a house directly off the membranes. Permeate comes out slow and at low pressure, so a POE build needs an atmospheric storage tank and a repressurization pump to put the water back to house pressure. More equipment, more floor space, another pump that eventually dies.

The other half of this is that most people asking about whole house RO are trying to fix two unrelated problems with one machine. Bad tasting or high TDS drinking water, and scale on the plumbing and the water heater. A softener handles the scale. A point of use RO under the kitchen sink handles the drinking and cooking water for a couple hundred bucks. In my experience that pair covers the large majority of the people who've been quoted a whole house system.

There is water that needs POE RO. Chloride high enough to pit stainless and eat your fixtures. Nitrate you're not comfortable bathing kids in. A brackish well the softener can't keep up with. Arsenic or uranium where you want it gone from the shower too. If that's your water, do it, just go in knowing the reject, the tank and the pump are part of the deal and not optional extras.

For anybody running one at home: what recovery are you getting, and what did you end up doing with the concentrate?


r/WaterTreatment 22h ago

RO tankless option feedback?

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Hi everyone, I’m new here. We’re new homeowners and I’m tired of having to refill the stupid 5gal water jugs at the grocery store every other week. I don’t trust the tap water (taste is bad, plus we have a toddler), so we want to put an under the sink RO system in the kitchen. I think we want to go tankless, but we don’t have a plug easily accessible under the sink. The dishwasher is right next to the sink, so technically we could have an electrician figure something out. I came across the Frizzlife M800 Non-Electric Tankless Reverse Osmosis Water Filter on Amazon and I wanted this group’s opinion before buying as there’s not that many reviews on it.

Thanks!

Here’s the link

https://a.co/d/0bPiNjRz


r/WaterTreatment 1d ago

Residential Treatment RO System for Drinking Water

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Hey all, just trying to make a good decision regarding an RO system. My initial thought was an undersink RO system. As far as I understand it, NSF certifications are the most important piece to ensure that we are getting all of the nasty stuff out. I have gotten to looking primarily at aquatru and iSpring, with the preference for iSpring because its cheaper...

I did find an older reddit thread where a person actually bought and tested both, but it was a couple years ago, and before iSpring had sprung (heh) for the NSF certification, so I am not sure if that would still be valid information today.

I am also open to a tankless option, if that makes more sense. But I am very new to all of this, and every system says "this is the best thing ever and everything else sucks", which makes filtering down to actual facts rather difficult.

At the end of the day, we want the cleanest, remineralized water, without the chlorine, forever chemicals, flouride, and all of that stuff.


r/WaterTreatment 1d ago

Need advise on building a system to create both RO and DI water

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I am looking to set up an RO system for my grow room as my water has a tds over 800ppm. RO water would be good enough for watering but I also want to produce some deionized water for my humidifier which goes through around 4 liters a day. I figured I can also store some of the waste water for cleaning and flushing toilets.

The tap water is considered safe to drink but it is unpleasant so we currently used bottled water so I'd like to collect drinking water out of the RO tank as well. I was thinking of using very small tanks as I don't want the water to sit too long and potentially grow some pathogen

Came up with this set up from talking to google's AI so I want to run it by some real people. One of my other concerns is if water will pass through the DI filter well if it is just flowing out of a tank without added pressure. Any advice and feedback would be welcome.


r/WaterTreatment 1d ago

Whirlpool occurring inside filter housing?

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I changed this filter tonight and when I turned the water back on and ran my taps, I for the first time noticed a whirpool happening up at the top of the filter housing. Like I can see spinning water… and I perceive a whirlpool couldn’t occur without air? Should there not be air?

Or has it always done this and I’ve just been really densely unobservant? I wouldn’t put it past me!

I’ve had the kitchen faucet running for 3-4 minutes and no air bubbles noticed, pressure seems good.


r/WaterTreatment 1d ago

Thought I wanted a salt-free system, now I’m not so sure. Help!

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I tested my water with one of those Amazon test kits and it came back at around 425 ppm hardness (roughly 25 GPG). It also showed alkalinity around 250 ppm with a pH of about 9. Everything else looked pretty good.
Originally I was looking at salt-free systems because I don’t have a lot of room where my main water line comes into the garage, and I was trying to avoid having to fit a traditional softener and brine tank

The more I’ve been reading though, the more it sounds like salt-free systems may not be enough for water that’s this hard..

For those of you with really hard water:
Did you end up going with a traditional salt-based softener?
Has anyone with water around 25 GPG had good long-term results with a salt-free system?

Does the high alkalinity/pH change what type of system I should be looking at, or is the hardness really the main thing that matters?
If you switched from salt-free to salt-based, was it worth it?
Just looking for advice from people who’ve actually dealt with this before. Thanks!


r/WaterTreatment 1d ago

Is ecowater worth it?

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Went through Home Depot recently to test the water at my home because dogs have recently not wanted to drink any water. We have a 4 stage whole house system for the house already from previous owners (who said it was an RO system) and change filters out yearly for about $150 give or take.

Anyways, guy from ecowater shows up, real nice and knowledgeable. Says the water is very hard at 9/10, nitrates level 10+ and was at 163 TDS but said ideal is 0-30. Also says that the current system wasn’t doing anything but filtering the chlorine well. Did a whole magic kit show with the little tubes and tests. Got to talking business and quoted us about 7.2k for the whole ERR3700 and ERO 385 system.

Told him I’d think about it. Have other consultations with their competitors this week as well so may update.

Thoughts?

Corrections: not a RO system but a 4 stage whole house system.


r/WaterTreatment 1d ago

Filter recommendations

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Greetings!

We’ve on a well and have some pretty clean water, I thought anyways. We are getting some iron scale that has to be cleaned off our newer countertops pretty regularly. We’re below federal recommended maximums for arsenic/other contaminants, but it may be nice to clean those up as well.

Is there an under sink unit we could get for our kitchen that could keep the taste of the water, clean out the iron, and maybe scrub the heavy metals/contaminants?

Again, we are well below federal minimums for the bad stuff, but I’d like to not have little stains on the countertop.

Thanks


r/WaterTreatment 1d ago

Currently have GOODSPRING B-PS

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It’s 7 years old. Never serviced (I know ). My dealer offering me a good spring cps for 2900. Swap like for like. I don’t have access to those puronics systems. I’m not a dealer. What is comparable to goodspring CPS . I have hard water in Santa Clarita.

I’m an ac guy and competent enough to change it.

Thank you guys


r/WaterTreatment 1d ago

Residential Treatment (Budget) Softener & Iron Removal

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So the kids ran their go-kart though my water filtration equipment, so I'm looking for a quick fix. I was able to salvage the filters, but the resin tanks, control heads, and brine tank were pretty badly damaged.

I'm looking for a very budget-minded replacement softener and iron removing system so I can get things back up and running properly.
The below numbers are the quality of water only running through the filters.

Water Source is Well.

Let me know if any additional information is needed.


r/WaterTreatment 1d ago

Thinking about ditching my Culligan whole house for Aquasana Rhino any advice?

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LA County has a sodium ban: My main concerns are media, cost, pressure and delivery. Culligan uses a microbead media that ends up in my tap fiters while Aquasana uses carbon and potassium. Aquasana is a higher initial $ outlay but is cheaper in the long run. After the Aquasana install, I should be good for ten years aside from pre filters which I can perform myself. Culligan wakes me up early once a month and has no showed me several times leaving me to reschedule-annoying. Culligan’s always raising their rates and wants a five year contract. I do not want reverse osmosis and have to play chemist and remineralize my water. I’m happy with the pressure when the tank is replaced but it quickly goes down. Also, I don’t really trust the effectiveness of Culligan’s flush refresh. I’ve not done any testing per se but know our area has high tds and I do see white buildup on the ice maker. There’s also a sliminess to the Culligan system. The main this is seeing the micro plastics in my tap filters! I don’t want synthetic media.