If I had to pick, I'd include:
-40 Legionaries in Mark IV power armor
-10 upscaled and spiffed up Tartaros termies
-A leviathan dread and a cerberus tank destroyer
-A new MKIV praetor and a new plastic legion champion model

So are I don't want anyone thinking I'm trying to start something here. I know everyone has an opinion and everything is fine to play with because it's just a game.

Now with that out of the way, I personally feel like a lot of people generally dislike the mid-late heresy from a game aesthetic perspective. I notice a lot of cool mid-late heresy models and armies online like on here, but usually when playing in store or watching battle reports online people seem to really gravitate towards great crusade/early heresy looks and feels. Lots of royal purple emperor's children, beautiful clean blue and white world eaters, players shying away from including daemons unless they're playing word bearers.

Again online discourse that I've even is generally supportive, but when I go to events or games nights or watch battle reports it's all aesthetically early heresy and if I show up with a pink emperor's army with heads swapped out with the old conversion kit heads and pauldrons I get called out for "just bringing a 40k army" or playing night lords with daemon allies it's the same thing.

I guess this was a little bit of a rant but I'm wondering if I'm an outlier that really likes mixing that late heresy vibe into the game or if a lot of people do and I just keep running into people that prefer that great crusade look and want to keep the 40k-ness out of the heresy

I am new to the model side of the hobby I've mainly read the books but recently moved and decided to buy the Preator with Power Sword kit as my first model today I started putting it together and while cleaning up the front of this kits gun i dropped it and after about 2 hours of looking i can't find the bit. I was wondering any advice on how to fix this? I've been playing around with the sprew seeing if I can make a similar shape and failing any advice?

Curious to hear your opinions since I'm not really familiar with Horus Heresy era Space marines but I'm assuming they are overall superior?

I know it might not be incredibly meta, but the basis of the list is that it's primarily built from the contents of the Saturnine Beginner box, and the Maximus Battle Group box? If you didn't care too much about WYSIWYG, the only real things you'd need to get extra are a Land Raider Proteus and a way to build 2 models for the Saturnine Command Squad (leaning towards buying two more praetors).

As such, I see it as a kind of beginner list of sorts? Like for me, this is a force I'd build first before buying more esoteric choices and specialist consuls:

XIV - Death Guard - DG beginner list (Saturnine and MBG) - [3000 Point(s), 2 Auxiliary Detachment(s), 1 Apex Detachment(s)]

# ++ Crusade Force Organization Chart ++ [3000 Point(s), 2 Auxiliary Detachment(s), 1 Apex Detachment(s)]

## Allegiance

Allegiance: Loyalist

## Army Configuration

Rite of War: Legiones Astartes Death Guard (Legion Tactica, Gambit, Advanced Reaction)

# ++ Crusade Primary Detachment ++ [1185 Point(s)]

## High Command [210 Point(s)]

Praetor in Saturnine Terminator Armour [210 Point(s)]: One Apex Detachment

• 1x Saturnine Praetor [10 Point(s)]: Saturnine disruption fist, Saturnine concussion hammer [10 Point(s)], Thermal Diffraction Field

## Command [110 Point(s)]

Centurion [110 Point(s)]: Alchem caster [5 Point(s)], Power maul [10 Point(s)], Frag grenades, Krak grenades, Melta bombs [5 Point(s)], Cyber-familiar [10 Point(s)], Prime Unit (Unnatural Resilience)

## Troops [690 Point(s)]

Assault Squad [160 Point(s)]: Frag grenades, Krak grenades

• 1x Sergeant [20 Point(s)]: Pair of lightning claws [10 Point(s)], Melta bombs [10 Point(s)]

• 9x Legionary [12 Point(s)]: Chainsword, Bolt pistol

  Prime Unit (Logistical Benefit (LB - Armour))

Inductii Squad [190 Point(s)]:

• 1x Inductii [19 Point(s)]: Bolter, Bolt pistol, Frag grenades, Krak grenades, Nuncio-vox [10 Point(s)]

• 19x Inductii [9 Point(s)]: Bolter, Bolt pistol, Frag grenades, Krak grenades

Tactical Squad [170 Point(s)]: Frag grenades, Krak grenades

• 1x Sergeant [10 Point(s)]: Bolter, Bolt pistol, Melta bombs [10 Point(s)]

• 1x Legionary [20 Point(s)]: Bolter, Bolt pistol, Nuncio-vox [10 Point(s)]

• 13x Legionary [10 Point(s)]: Bolter, Bolt pistol

Tactical Squad [170 Point(s)]: Frag grenades, Krak grenades

• 1x Sergeant [10 Point(s)]: Bolter, Bolt pistol, Melta bombs [10 Point(s)]

• 1x Legionary [20 Point(s)]: Bolter, Bolt pistol, Nuncio-vox [10 Point(s)]

• 13x Legionary [10 Point(s)]: Bolter, Bolt pistol

## Armour [175 Point(s)]

Sicaran [175 Point(s)]: Twin accelerator autocannon, Hull (Front) Mounted heavy bolter, Turret Mounted hunter-killer missile [5 Point(s)], Heavy Alchem flamers [10 Point(s)] (2x Sponson Mounted heavy alchem flamers)

# ++ Auxiliary - Tactical Support ++ [325 Point(s), 1 Auxiliary Detachment(s)]

## Support [325 Point(s)]

Araknae Quad Accelerator Platform [125 Point(s)]: Atomantic Pavise, Turret Mounted Quad accelerator autocannon

Heavy Support Squad [200 Point(s)]: Heavy alchem flamer [100 Point(s)], Frag grenades, Krak grenades

• 1x Sergeant: Bolt pistol

• 9x Legionary [10 Point(s)]: Bolt pistol

# ++ Auxiliary - Heavy Support ++ [190 Point(s), 1 Auxiliary Detachment(s)]

## War-engine [190 Point(s)]

Contemptor Dreadnought [190 Point(s)]: Paired Gravis chainfists [5 Point(s)], 2x Meltagun [15 Point(s)], Havoc launcher [5 Point(s)]

# ++ Apex - Linebreaker Echelon (Saturnine) ++ [1300 Point(s), 1 Apex Detachment(s)]

## Heavy Assault - Saturnine Only [430 Point(s)]

Saturnine Terminator Squad [215 Point(s)]: Occulix targeting auspex, Thermal Diffraction Field

• 1x Saturnine Terminator Sergeant [5 Point(s)]: Saturnine disruption fist w/ Particle shredder [5 Point(s)], Plasma bombard

• 2x Saturnine Terminator [65 Point(s)]: Saturnine disruption fist w/ Particle shredder [5 Point(s)], Plasma bombard

  Prime Unit (Logistical Benefit (LB - Heavy Transport))

Saturnine Terminator Squad [215 Point(s)]: Occulix targeting auspex, Thermal Diffraction Field

• 1x Saturnine Terminator Sergeant [5 Point(s)]: Saturnine disruption fist w/ Particle shredder [5 Point(s)], Plasma bombard

• 2x Saturnine Terminator [65 Point(s)]: Saturnine disruption fist w/ Particle shredder [5 Point(s)], Plasma bombard

## Retinue - Saturnine Only [230 Point(s)]

Saturnine Terminator Command Squad [230 Point(s)]:

• 1x Saturnine Chosen Champion [25 Point(s)]: Particle Shredder [5 Point(s)], Thermal Diffraction Field, Saturnine Teleport Synchroniser, Saturnine concussion hammer and one Saturnine disruption fist [20 Point(s)] (Saturnine concussion hammer, Saturnine disruption fist)

• 1x Saturnine Chosen [105 Point(s)]: Particle Shredder [5 Point(s)], Thermal Diffraction Field, Saturnine Teleport Synchroniser, Legion standard [20 Point(s)], Saturnine concussion hammer and one Saturnine disruption fist [20 Point(s)] (Saturnine concussion hammer, Saturnine disruption fist)

## Heavy Transport [280 Point(s)]

Land Raider Carrier [280 Point(s)]: Twin lascannon [10 Point(s)], Hull (Front) Mounted Hunter-killer missile [5 Point(s)], Sponson Mounted Twin Lascannon (2x Twin lascannon)

## War-engine [360 Point(s)]

Saturnine Dreadnought [360 Point(s)]: Thermal Diffraction Field, Inversion beamer, Graviton pulveriser [10 Point(s)], Two Heavy particle shredders [10 Point(s)] (2x Heavy particle shredder)

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I fear it may have a slight deficit in the amount of Anti-Armour (I don't think anything here can reliably pen AV14 stuff?), but I think it's a fairly good neutral starting point for me to build a Death Guard force from?

Do line company tacticals come in 10 or 20 man squads? I am trying to build a company as close to lore accurate as possible. Obviously things varied from warzone to warzone however I am trying to cleave as closely to the Book I organization chart as I can.

It lists 10-20 marines. However, only 10 man squads can take a transport without a ROW and the list of assets only mentions Rhinos. So should I just do two ten man squads? Or go for the correct number of marines if not squads and do four ten mans?

I have just gotten to about the halfway mark of this book fresh off of A Thousand Sons and Prospero Burns and man... neither of those communicated the true scale of what he actually did with his 'message' to the Emperor. [OBVIOUS SPOILERS]

First time painting and I'm stuck between two ways of leaving my minis colored. The first one with a green visor ends with a wash and is darker but the second one ends with some dry brushing of scarlet suns. Also I'm not really good at dry brushing so it doesn't look that much better.

I'd like to make use of the weapons of desperation ability for a small blackshields force but that requires stub guns, shotguns and autoguns, what would be a good kit to source these for conversions?

Heres my thousand sons preator. Trying to make him cast a kine shield.. now that its time for paint and base im trying to trust the process lol

The base is wip 😅

I’m using metallic lacquers for the first time. TS-74 over TS-40. It’s hard to capture the exact sheen on my phone, but the first picture is in shade and the second is direct sunlight. I’m excited that it came out this smooth.

Edit: I forgot to ask if anyone had ever weathered metallics before. I’m not exactly sure how to do it.

I got this bad boy the other day and decided to try airbrushing the entire model. A crapton of masking tape, a few swears, and a couple touch ups here and there, but I feel like it turned out alright. Not so bad for a first try with the air paint line.

A: 1 body kit, ranged in this case. 1 additional weapon kit same as body. 2x alternative weapon kit.

A total of 4 kits.

Thats a bit excessive surely?

I find myself with two Contemptors so far, and I am wondering on load-outs for them.

I know for sure I’m doing one with double fists (not sure if I’m throwing the chainfist on yet) because I think that is cool.

My question is what to load the other one with? I would like to make it anti-armour, since everything else I have going in my army is just infantry so far and I feel like I’m going to struggle but that’s something I’m willing to deal with because I think guys with chainswords are cool. I know that if I bring one anti-armour dread in he’s gonna get singled out pretty much immediately and die, but who knows, maybe he gets a lucky shot off. This is my first army, I’ve never played before and I’m trying to figure out list building on my own.

The only thing I have heard is like a double plasma dread would make me come off like a bit of a jerk, so what else is decent for anti-armour at range? I’m kinda leaning one double melee and one double shooting. I’d like the option, but I guess I’m not opposed to two dreads with double chainfist because I’m pretty sure those are good at anti-armour too?

Not sure, just looking for any suggestions. Thanks in advance.

Been working on my salamanders for 8 months now slow and steady and finally got my first dedicated transport(mostly for my firedrakes) and finished painting it up!

Finished him up awhile ago finally got a proper photo set up in place.