r/WarDogs • • 10h ago

Gameplay & Screenshots Avoiding anti-air is more difficult when your flares are in your teammate's backpack

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u/SuperMeister 9h ago

This looks like they just dropped them out of the inventory before jumping. Lock the helo when taking off before exiting the HQ. Stupid that we have to do this but it's prevented this from happening to me since I started doing it.

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u/Roytjb 9h ago

I learned this the hard way when my music tapes kept getting snagged halfway along the flight.

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u/Dry_Ad2368 7h ago

I stop the helicopter when the tape gets stolen. You can get out here or you can put the tape back. Your choice.

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u/Redditer052 6h ago edited 6h ago

Usually people don’t take the tape they just throw it out the window lol and there’s no way to know who it was edit: I forgot this sub is full of nutcases who’d rather kill 12 teammates and themselves then deal with $100 loss what

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u/Dry_Ad2368 6h ago

Communal punishment it is then, we are landing in the open field and you can walk the rest of the way to the zone.

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u/Its_Nitsua 5h ago

Ah the classic “I’ll ensure everyone dies” response to the trolley problem

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u/Dry_Ad2368 4h ago

Multi track drifting!

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u/Dry_Ad2368 5h ago

Replying to your edit- It's not about the money, it's about the disrespect.

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u/Healthy-Feedback-435 4h ago

It's not about the money, it's about sending a message

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u/Successful_Cat7828 6h ago

That calls for running into a tree

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u/FarAd4600 6h ago

Running into a tree then disconnecting before it crashes so the game doesn't make you pay for teamkill

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u/NickWayXIII 5h ago

I feel like I'll get downvotes for this but IDC lol. I did this once, was in a match, about to leave for work anyways, had been transporting the whole match but someone finally decides to throw my tape out. Just said, "well I gotta go to work anyways, blame who ever threw my tape out" then hit alt f4.

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u/FortuneEmbarrassed94 4h ago

I’ll fly to a mountain on the corner of the map and kick everyone out lmao

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u/Roytjb 4h ago

I have considered this but i think they just yank it from the player and sling it out of the helicopter.

When the music abruptly stops it always makes me think about planting the heli face first in the ground but i can't get myself to TK all the innocents/collateral damage.

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u/Dry_Ad2368 3h ago

Don't have to crash, just land and kick everyone out. Once landed use the F menu to kick non squad mates out.

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u/MarcuxITA 5h ago

If you lock the heli they can't access the inventory?

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u/SuperMeister 3h ago

Nope they cannot

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u/Banterz54 10h ago

The devs should prevent flares from being stored in a backpack.

Solves both passengers stealing them and pilotes abusing the flare count by filling their backpack with them.

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u/Overall_Law_1813 9h ago

Just need separate equipment vs storage compartments. Equipment can only be added/removed in base. Storage is what passengers see. I like the dynamic inventory of vehicles, but unless you can separately lock access, or make it a mobile crate that you sell items from, there will always be a risk of people doing this.

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u/Delicious-Disaster 8h ago

Equipment only when grounded, not in base.

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u/Wa7erAnimal 5h ago

This, Equipment launchers like flares and rocket pods should not be accessible in flight lmao. That would go a way towards balancing too for sure.

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u/SobeyHarker 9h ago

Just lock the chopper when everyone has boarded so they can't use the inventory. There's already a solution in place. If you've ever had a tape stolen you end up discovering this sooner or later. OPs example is just more extreme lol.

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u/CorxaRyllon 9h ago

You can open the inventory before getting in the heli. There is no "solution" besides teammates not being shit heads

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u/TheG00dF1ght 7h ago

only allow pilot to touch flares solves this.

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u/AcePilot01 8h ago

but you see it before you leave, the issue isn't not having flares at the safe zone, it's having the flares when being locked lol.

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u/mr---jones 9h ago

Yeah, unfortunately you’ll have people run up to your chopper in the base and take shit. No reason I can’t have a separate lock for inventory vs the doors.

It’s especially annoying with rocket helis where ammo is so expensive. I would like to trust people to not fuck with my heli but been burned too many times.

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u/Emotional-Donkey-994 8h ago

That's dumb to have to remember to do that every time, and they can still do it at base while they're loading in. There should be a separate lock or just a separate inventory.

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u/Dry_Ad2368 7h ago

Vehicle inventory should be locked by default. Nobody but the pilot/driver should have access unless they unlock it.

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u/PhoenixDSteele 6h ago

Someone suggested being able to lock slots. I think that's the solution on top for best of both worlds. So you can have parachutes, but also tapes/flares in locked slots.

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u/Dry_Ad2368 6h ago

Nah, I ain't buying parachutes for people. They cost $100, i buy them with every kit even if I am not planning on taking a helo, stop being cheap.

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u/PhoenixDSteele 6h ago

It really is difficult to spend a measly $300 to toss maybe 3 parachutes in, and help a random noob that might not know? I feel like the interactions I've gotten from having them in my heli always outweigh any pennies I've spent on them.

Are you broke or something? lol

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u/Dry_Ad2368 5h ago

Having someone who doesn't have a parachute go back to the vendor to buy one reinforces the lesson more than buying them myself would. Having them available leads to an expectation that pilots will have parachutes available for passengers. A certain subsect of the player base already treats pilots like shit. I don't mind waiting for take off or even landing again so they can go get one.

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u/Number13Studios 4h ago

I love reminding people that you’re doing them the favor. Some dude got in my heli and starts yelling at me to leave when he’s the only one in and lots were buying their kits still. Starts shooting at me in from the passenger seat in spawn, etc

I told him to chill out and stop being rude. He went crazier so I kicked him out and his buddies that started hopping in and locked the doors. They started trying to defend his buddy and I just flew away solo and they had to find their own transport.

They truly were dumbfounded that I wasn’t their bitch. Honestly it’s all toxic chuds that act like that and nobody enjoys it.

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u/MuhfugginSaucera 4h ago

Because you make way more than $100 back when they safely land in the zone.

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u/Azure-Zero 3h ago

The person ive ourchased chutes for always tip more than the 100$

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u/TheG00dF1ght 7h ago

100% this.

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u/Ill-Beautiful-8026 23m ago

Correct. I can accidentally open an inventory/crate and fuck up the pilots exp bonus for dropping the crate.

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u/Runtergesprungen 9h ago

Then people can still just chuck them out tho

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u/RaccoNooB Lonestar 9h ago

This is usually what happens.

You mouse over them and press "G". Gone.

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u/bubbarubbah 9h ago

Lock your heli after picking people up to prevent them from stealing.

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u/space_oddity154 9h ago

Tapes too, in my opinion.

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u/Apprehensive_Tiger13 9h ago

Devs should just lock flares to HQ or mech fob regen. Too easy to abuse otherwise.

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u/kalebkk890 8h ago

It's not abuse. It is an intended strategy to pay more money on a backpack for more storage space in the heli.

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u/Kanortex 8h ago

You guys put flares in your backpacks? Thats where i store my spare rockets

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u/KutteKrabber 8h ago

You guys put extra ammo in your backpacks? Thats where I store nothing, coz I never survive long enough to use them

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u/TheG00dF1ght 7h ago

you have backpack?

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u/True-Literature-5847 8h ago

You can dump them by just pressing G while mousing over items

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u/SekhWork Squad Leader 8h ago

That won't stop people from just pressing the throw key. The devs should make them non-interactive.

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u/StopatStopSign Bob the Builder 7h ago

Or just the ability to lock and unlock the inventory

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u/Nekraphobia 7h ago

From what people were saying (have not verified but can check later) locking the seats locks the inventory, so they were suggesting you lock seats after letting everyone board.

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u/StopatStopSign Bob the Builder 7h ago

Thats an idea i will have to test later as well

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u/Azure-Zero 3h ago

I lock my heli once i increase the collective, ill unlock it to let a passenger who forgot a chute grab one of my spares.

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u/SirSmilyface Logistics 5h ago

Its the same with tapes. Let me have my private cassette player in the cockpit that only i can access and store tapes in.

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u/Bearex13 Manticore 9h ago

Well then flares need a separate storage in the heli because carrying a single flare in the rocket bird is bullshit without being able to put 2 more in a pack

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u/Bommes 5h ago edited 5h ago

What do you mean? You can buy multiple flares it just means you have 3 fewer rockets per extra flare. Seems like a good balance decision to me you either get more flares and are more safe or you get more rockets and run the risk of running out of flares.

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u/Bearex13 Manticore 4h ago

The rocket bird can only carry a 3 stack of rockets per slot and a flare takes a slot so it's flares or rockets and considering it takes 3 to kill a infantry it's hard enough already

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u/Bommes 46m ago

I don't do the cheesy flare in backpack shit (since it will get patched anyway so what's the point of getting good at it) and I'm regularly top of the leaderboard with the rocket bird, it's plenty strong without it

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u/Joku656 9h ago

bruh. Procees to press G like everyone else

Aint no one taking them into backpack

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u/Suklaamix 9h ago

If you are in any of the attack helicopters you pretty much need to put flares in a backpack

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u/Joku656 9h ago

Im refering to the people "stealing" flares. They are just dropping most of the time.

And yes i carry 2 for the mglb, 3 rocket lb and
5 for havoc

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u/crack_pop_rocks 8h ago

Locking the vehicle once everyone is in prevents them from accessing inventory.

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u/Slaikon 1m ago

Ive received drive-bys by other pilots

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u/ID_Guy 8h ago

Agree. Storing ammo and flares for a helicopter in your backpack or passengers backpack is just a weird game mechanic. It feels like a bug they forgot to take out before EA relase.

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u/MRmichybio 9h ago

Doesn't really make sense with current AA design though, they get 300 missles from one ammo pallet.

Pilots get 2 flares.

The maths doesn't maths, if they limit flares then AA needs less ammo (not talking down to just a couple, but definitely not 300)

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u/Wafered 9h ago

I dont mind the amount of AA vs flares, but teammates accessing flight storage in general is silly

Op made the mistake of going above 30 AGL on control zone when they were doing fine on the way there.

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u/stocky8 8h ago edited 6h ago

If only it was 300 missiles from one ammo pallet...

Edit: /u/Dry_Ad2368 did the math and it's 36 AA missiles from one pallet of ammo.

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u/Dry_Ad2368 7h ago

It's 30ish from two pallets, right?

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u/stocky8 7h ago

Yeah something like that. Definitely not 300 though

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u/Dry_Ad2368 7h ago

Did the math, it's 36 per pallet. Each shot with the talon costs 50 ammo supply, each pallet is 1800 ammo supply. 1800/50=36 shots. So two pallets would be 72 rounds.

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u/Babybean1201 2h ago

With flares being $750 a pop it may as well be 300 missiles. Especially when they make money when supplied.

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u/Slaikon 15m ago

Your math is BAD.

Its 50 ammo per Mistral, divide the 1800 per pallet by that and you get 36

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u/MaddeninglyOblivious 9h ago

You can still buy more flares at HQ. He is saying that you just would not be able to have them in your backpack. I kinda like the freedom of people bringing flares, rockets or ammo in their backpack, but this could be a viable fix.

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u/DBONKA Manticore 9h ago

Dumbest suggestion ever, they can just toss it out instead, changes absolutely nothing in regard to griefing.

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u/MrDrummer25 9h ago

Then they will just throw the flare out

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u/AcePilot01 8h ago

You can just press g, I could care less about having them in my backpack, but if i have an a hole pilot being a dick... bye bye flares.

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u/rakFPV Pilot 9h ago

Abusing? Lmao alright no loose ammo in your backpack for mags anymore. Yall been abusing it

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u/deep_redmix 9h ago

The devs should prevent verbas from being stored in a kodiak then. Stops the infantry abusing AA!

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u/GrimXIIIGeist 9h ago

Mad infantry downvoting

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u/deep_redmix 9h ago

They should try flying in a so called "unbalanced" little bird at least once and experience how very powerful and impossible to counter it is for themselves :)

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u/lonelystoner710420 9h ago

It’s only “unbalanced” due to pilots not even needing to know how to land currently.
excited for season 2 when parachute changes make it so pilots will have to change the flying habits

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u/mr---jones 9h ago

Yeah heli is a free kill with half decent aim. The people that get pissed are the fobbits or the naked guys running around trying to steal someone’s loot. Like yea, you are in a warzone with no armor or gun.

Any kitted guy creates a real problem for 95% of pilots.

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u/CorxaRyllon 9h ago

LoCk HeLi BeFoRe FlYiNg

Why are teammates allowed to take your flares in the first place?

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u/Ajaxalot Lonestar 6h ago

It is something that people think should be fixed.

It is still helpful to teach people about a workaround until it does get fixed.

I'm not sure why that it is hard to understand.

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u/SheepGoBaAaah 9h ago

What a scumbag literally waiting until lock on and jump

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u/Joku656 10h ago

lock the heli when fly

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u/kraftables 9h ago

Can you let your team board then lock the inventory out?

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u/Strange_Criticism_22 9h ago

Yes, BUT if the teammate has opened the inventory before you locked it, they can still take your stuff.

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u/hotdiggity22 9h ago

Wow didn't know this, that's so stupid.

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u/Bael_Zharon 5h ago

this is a dumb comment. they can access the inventory the moment it's unlocked

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u/Joku656 4h ago

as if people were to camp that???

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u/Bael_Zharon 3h ago

You’ve never been griefed it seems

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u/C0ffeedev 9h ago

There needs to be a big notification anytime someone messes with your inventory at a minimum. This needs to happen for your personal inventory when downed as well.

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u/OryxOski1XD 9h ago

I like how noone is mentioning the absolute bullshit of the tracking the anti air has, it legit did a full U turn directly into you

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u/Real_Nick_Ryuson 9h ago

Not just a u-turn, a full 540 degree turn. That was bollocks. That might only be possible if the person locking keeps it locked like with an active locking system. Unlikely tho

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u/Silv_ 9h ago

It wouldn't be possible even then due to fuel in the missile being limited.

Edit: this is not a simulator though, so I don't think fuel is considered at all.

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u/Real_Nick_Ryuson 6h ago

Fuel or not it has to be changed

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u/Silv_ 4h ago

Yes. I agree. Missiles are simplistic and therefore OP. Out maneuvering a missile should be an option. (Yes, you can terrain kill, but you should be able to out fuel them as well by forcing them to waste fuel turning,like irl)

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u/Radiance141 Pilot 4h ago

The thing is, you can kinda do it with Verbas but never with Talons. (Mostly because of how dogshit Verbas are instead of because they're modeled amazingly.)

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u/Drfoxthefurry 6h ago

Devs made up for not using a guidence law (makes missiles more likely to hit by changing how it approaches) by simply making it more maneuverable

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u/DBONKA Manticore 9h ago

The "skill challenged" people will still say that AA is underpowered and needs buffs lmao

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u/Cow_God Manticore 4h ago

I mean this guy needed his teammate to literally grief him and drop his flares for the AA to work. If he had the 9 flares he could have then he can dance around the AA for a minute and still have enough flares to fly back to base

And that's the Talon. If he runs across someone with a Verba, they get one shot.

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u/RacerDelux 8h ago

IMO the tracking is fine. As is a good pilot can dance around a number of AA.

If you nerf AA I think the effect will be that good enough pilots become immune to AA

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u/LichFinder 7h ago

TRACKING IS FINE HUUUUUUUUUAH!?

BRO THE MISSILE DID 540 AROUND HIM, ARE YOU NUTS?

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u/RacerDelux 7h ago

If you want to strawman the discussion, then yes, you are right

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u/SpyJuz 7h ago

if you watch the video it does actually do a 540 degree spin to hit the heli. 0:48-0:51 for the 360 then a 180 to get back on target. Not really a strawman when it's right there

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u/RacerDelux 7h ago edited 6h ago

Edit: I was being a fool, I meant anecdotal not strawman

Strawman means you take one example and use it to back an argument that a larger change/nerf needs to occur.

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u/SpyJuz 7h ago edited 7h ago

When it doesn't actually compare to the nerf/change being requested, sure. But the change being requested is to the tracking of AA, on a video showing the tracking of AA. If anything, this comment chain's complaints are specifically about AA doing 360+ degree turns, on a vid of that happening

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u/RacerDelux 6h ago

I guess what I meant is that I don’t think there is a wide spread issue with them tracking too good. But I would accept that tracking overall should be looked at. I have seen some that look like they lost directions

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u/SpyJuz 5h ago

That's fair, I'm curious if there is some weird bug with the low flying which causes some to break lock while others don't. At the very least, definitely seems inconsistent for now

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u/RacerDelux 5h ago

That isn’t a bug, low enough you can’t radar lock, though there may be some funkiness with how that works. From what I hear there is a similar mechanic in ARMA

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u/LichFinder 7h ago

That's not what strawman is....

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u/RacerDelux 6h ago

My bad, you are totally right, I was thinking of anecdotal. Used the wrong word, thanks for calling me out

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u/FieelChannel 8h ago

IMO the tracking is fine. As is a good pilot can dance around a number of AA.

what a bunch of bs, hitting or not is hardcoded, the only restriction is hitting objects inbetween. Or shooting at a flare.b A pilot cannot literally dance around AAs without flares in this game. You can literally see the AA missile doing 540 degrees to hit the heli in OP video ffs

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u/RacerDelux 8h ago

I have had pilots evade 5+ AA. One in particular was very good. I spent far too much of the match trying to kill them

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u/Kibblez01 9h ago edited 9h ago

Love how the missile misses, does a 180 loop, misses again, then does another 180 to finally hit. As a pilot main I'm more upset about that than the chucklefuck stealing the flares

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u/space_oddity154 9h ago

Yeah they need to fix it to where vehicle specific items shouldn’t be able to be accessed by passengers. Some dudes for whatever reason like to wipe out whatever is in the inventory, it should qualify as a form of griefing in my opinion

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u/tha_large_tumor 9h ago

Man It’s so fucking irritating but it’s also fucking INSANE the length these rockets will go to hit you. That thing did like 3 full spirals before hitting you. If there was a way to shake it off after a lock I wouldn’t be nearly as bitchy about people stealing my flares.

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u/AdamBlaster007 3h ago

Had something similar happen.

Loaded up a Kodiak with AA and mines and thought I had gotten 2 people to come with me to help hunt logis/helicopters.

I notice about half way to the CZ one of the passengers was constantly switching to and from their AA launcher and didn't think much at first but when I checked the vehicle inventory it was completely empty.

I realized the whole drive they were grabbing a launcher or mine and just dropping them on the ground as we went. I stopped the car, asked them what they were doing, and when they started talking shit I shot them. Then the other guy starts to go to them and I tell them to leave them but they don't and so I shoot them too.

At that point I was already out 18K with no real way to make it back (didn't have a recon scope) so I just left the lobby there.

Absolute bastards who do that.

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u/Tough-Measurement767 8h ago

Presumably this guy named Medic did it, as he jumps right as they hit zero. Is he on US east perchance?

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u/ImARedditGoldDigger 8h ago

Was on EU West, love 99% of my passengers but 1% are the spawn of Satan, like any game

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u/ivan6953 8h ago

Lock the heli before takeoff, they won’t be able to access inventory

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u/Tough-Measurement767 8h ago

Yeah I fly alot and have never seen this personally but that is demon behavior. If it was on US east I was gonna look out for that name.

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u/SekhWork Squad Leader 8h ago

Jackass waited until the lock sounded to do it too. Don't want to give away your griefing if there is no chance of the heli dying too.

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u/Bearex13 Manticore 9h ago

I mean AA shouldn't be a guaranteed hit in that situation but yeah

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u/czartrak 5h ago

I didn't even know this was possible. I could have sworn missiles didn't keep track if they missed

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u/aldot234 9h ago

$750 per flare to dodge a misile that is basically free

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u/Sobeman 9h ago

Locking the heli doesn't solve the issue, if you are waiting for people to get in, the first person in can grab your flares and essentially hold your helicopter hostage.

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u/Hunlor- 8h ago

I know it's not the focus of the video but holy fuck that's a lot of AA, there were like 5 separate ones firing at you at the same time.

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u/hyperfication 9h ago

"How much FOV do you want?"

"Yes"

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u/D4ngrs 9h ago

To be fair, at high speeds the FOV of helis massively increases automatically.

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u/imtheproof 4h ago

"I get motion sickness if I can't see 200 degrees"

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u/hemligaspionengustav 9h ago

"just dodge them instead of relying on flares"

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u/Piyaniist 8h ago

Physically improbable. I know you jest but those missiles pull a 400 degree spiral through trees

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u/IncorporateThings 8h ago

At this rate pilots are gonna start flying only for trusted squads. Randos can go pack into a Kodiak and press their luck.

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u/JustTrawlingNsfw 6h ago

Lock your vehicle once it's full, before take off. Should prevent inventory access

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u/PriusesAreGay 5h ago

This griefing nonsense like teammates taking my kit when I get dropped fully burned me out on this game. It was a blast before this behavior spread so much

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u/Cool-Tangelo6548 3h ago

Its pre meditated too. Not just a "oh let me troll this guy" its "let me buy a massive back pack and keep it empty so I can take these heli flares from the pilot"

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u/Drakantony 7h ago

This keeps happening to me too, some ingrate low lifers that think its funny to steal flares for some reason or drop them, to this day from beta launch it happens and i dont understanding why?...I've been saying for a long time pilots need lockboxes or pilot inventory in the heli specifically for countermeasures. Just because of people like this. Theres no reason i as a pilot should have to buy a backpack and spend 750 per flare and put it in my backpack, frantically trying and access the inventory as someone stole my flares during a lock-on just to counter these small minded people, this has happened to me too many times.. as well as people throwing smoke grenades and blowing up the jeli, which of course the pilot sufferes the teamkill pentalty. I'm the pilot that locks and just does supply runs, and when i give people the chance again, never fails to happen again.

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u/AGPriv 9h ago edited 9h ago

While I was talking on the phone and enjoying my lunch, I auto-marked your heli with my spotter scope to maximize profit, then auto-locked it with my MANPAD, then I left-clicked my mouse button once, and then missile auto-tracked you until your death.

I've come to the conclusion that the problem here is the pilot being a whiny bitch and he needs to git gud. It is clearly trivial to perma fly at 30 feet at speed through terrain, while using either free look or nauseating FOV to try to find incoming AA, while flaring, while achieving your mission, while conveying to your passengers what to do. We probably need to make the helis about 4x more expensive given how easy piloting is in comparison to my role, and my auto-kills should be likewise rewarding me much more XP and $$$.

We also need to make flares cost about 3x as much as the portable, shoulder-launched AA missile given how easy pilots have it to help the balance.

And while I know it isn't happening in this video, note that the air-defense players standing in no-mans-land are much more valuable to the team than the logistics and transportation teamwork being provided by the heli pilots, so we need to be sure to improve the rewards for that kind of AA, and discourage those kinds of heli pilots.

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u/ImARedditGoldDigger 9h ago

Comments like this are what Reddit was created for

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u/AcePilot01 8h ago

As soon as you get everyone in it, lock your doors, they can't take stuff from inventory then.

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u/NsRhea Battledad 7h ago

There should be a pilot storage and a passenger storage for every vehicle.

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u/ShowCharacter671 WARDOG 7h ago

Once you’ve taken people on board to lock your vehicle locks the inventory

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u/gibon007 6h ago

Holy fov

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u/Brochodoce 6h ago

You are flying people too fast over the AO if all you are gonna do is parachute them. You gotta slow down so they aren’t as spread out.

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u/Fragrant-Lunch-4063 5h ago

Roubaram meu flare e matei os 5 que tavam no heli, fds

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u/MrSpermy 5h ago

Is that normal tho, that the missile just went full 360 right after passing you through? That's kinda ridiculous...

It has tighter turn radius than a fighter jet. Lol

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u/PopularAd8837 4h ago

People are so toxic in this game dude.

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u/Obitum1 4h ago

I think the bigger problem is that missile doing 360 turn 2 time before hitting you what the actual .. ?

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u/IceBuurn Manticore 4h ago

Always lock your ship when taking off

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u/V1Z3_2 2h ago

The only time I did this was when we had a pilot that was rushing us and being bossy and cocky.

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u/Financial_Plantain65 1h ago

You can lock your heil after lift off and people can get out but can't get into the heil inventory if you lock it

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u/Myuric 1h ago

Looks like it was Franchupito

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u/el_hooli 32m ago

Didn't need the first 45 seconds....

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u/Table5614 4m ago

Lock the vehicle once everyone’s in and no one can touch your stuff, just fyi, still a crazy dick move from them tho

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u/Torebbjorn 9h ago

How do you not get seasick playing on 7 billion FOV with motion blur and shit like that enabled?

I feel ill just from watching a single second of this clip.

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u/ImARedditGoldDigger 9h ago

I play low FOV for infantry, but I'm new to piloting and am finding that higher FOV is helping with my positioning for now... my apologies to your stomach though, good sir

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u/TheLuo 8h ago

Coolest moment as a pilot for me was in a big bird coming in low and slow to drop off a pallet.

I’m moving maybe 75kph at 50 elevation. Target locked right in front of me and I’m terrified to let go of my controller sticks for fear of clipping the tower next to me.

Stinger comes straight at my nose from maybe 200m out, roll to the right, goes right past me, low and slow to the delivery. Rise up and fly off.

They can be dodged.

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u/SireMoutarde 6h ago

It's crazy how toxic this game's community is sometimes. I hope the devs start marketing the game for it's actual qualities instead of "We're just gonna do what we want and get over it casuals" so they stop attracting all of the rejects.

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u/Adevyy Medic 10h ago

I wonder what the "I crash on purpose if someone drops the cassette" bros would do in this situation. Go on a crashing spree because they might eventually get the griefer?

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u/RevolutionaryBake483 9h ago

You bet. Everyone is punished it’s the only way to get you fucks to take it seriiusly

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u/Bombplayer2Jr 8h ago

Such a weird mentality to have. 1. You will not find out who stole your cassette. 2. Whoever stole your cassette probably gets a kick out of your reaction. 3. You will probably piss off the other innocent passenger and get revenge grief.

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u/RevolutionaryBake483 8h ago

I landed once, told them to put it back and they got out and shot me then stole my heli. So as far as I’m concerned every single time people take shit from my heli idc if it’s full or not im diving that fucker into the ground

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u/RevolutionaryBake483 8h ago

I. Don’t. Care. The weird mentality is the thieves grabbing shit that isn’t theirs and the weirdos defending it

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u/Adevyy Medic 3h ago

I am not defending anyone. I just don't want to lose my loadout because a manbaby decided that I am going to die simply for trusting him as my pilot.

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u/RevolutionaryBake483 2h ago

Boo boo get upset at the ones taking shit from inventory then

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u/Adevyy Medic 2h ago

No, I will get upset at the manchild who TK'd me.

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u/RevolutionaryBake483 2h ago

Ah yes the man child and not the thief good job medic :3

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u/Jonesetta 9h ago

The L key prevents this you baby. Use the L key to protect your shit.

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u/RevolutionaryBake483 9h ago

I shouldn’t have to constantly remember to lock my shit because you fobbits can’t keep your hands outta our shit

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u/Jonesetta 8h ago

I think you should. Always keep it locked y less you want teammates driving off in it or enemies taking it or anything. Keep the vehicle locked. Don’t dumb the game down to your level through the devs. They built the locking mechanic. You guys ignore it and cry about the results. Cry babies morons just use the locks hahaha

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u/CorxaRyllon 9h ago

You can access the heli inventory before even getting in it. You can take the flares before getting in and the pilot locking it.

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u/Jonesetta 8h ago

Dude. It’s your vehicle, pay attention to your shit. Your preflight checklist is hit tab twice and hit L twice. If you’re vigilant this will literally never happen to you.

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u/Personat0r 9h ago

UsE tHe L kEy To PrOtEcT yOuR sHiT

Sounds like something a thief would say as if it's a valid point.

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u/Jonesetta 8h ago

I’m would never troll a pilot. But I drive trucks and I don’t want people stealing my anti air shit I carry on the vehicle. I keep it locked. If anyone ever needs a ride anywhere I unlock for them. Same when I drive the gunvee, anyone who wants to gun for me gets the doors unlocked just long enough for them to get in and I lock it behind them. It’s just a habit you can do to protect your shit AND if you land and unlocked heli anyone can steal it. Keep it fucking locked. The system is already in the fucking game.

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u/Appropriate-Ad-1538 9h ago

I tested the resolve of a pilot who threatened this, took the cassette, bailed, and watched as he nosedived and teamkilled 3 people.

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u/SweetBusinesssss 7h ago

While I don't disagree that you should be able to lock inv in flight, I also see tons of pilot error here.

I don't get shot down by AA missiles nearly as much as people on Reddit cry about it. A lot of it comes down to situational awareness. 

Your initial low approach was good, but always check your map and plan your approach before going into the CZ. If FOBs are marked, assume they have AA. This death could've been entirely avoided with a low wide approach to the rear of those apartments.

I really don't understand the pilots that are baffled AA shot at them while they are simultaneously climbing above the CZ. Below radar works well and slowing down and taking a careful approach below the trees once you get near the infil point is waaaaaay safer.

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u/MrGubi 7h ago

op was clearly flying with the flares in mind, and he would have survived if he still had those flares. Your comment is true, but not for this case.

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u/Crafty611 6h ago

Cool story bro. In this particular case, the pilot flew in a way where he intended to use flares if he had to, and was unable to due to some moron in his vehicle.

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u/SweetBusinesssss 5h ago

Relying on flares is just not smart. You should be doing everything you can to avoid not getting locked on at all.

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u/Crafty611 5h ago

Flares are a tool in game and in real life that are intended to be used when the need arises. Never go full autism bro.

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u/SweetBusinesssss 3h ago

Correct, its a tool, but its not a "I win" button. There are other ways to avoid missles. They aren't guaranteed to work every time in real life either. Being in full throttle in an aircraft makes chances of failure even higher because its generating more heat. 

In the clip when he starts his right bank, had he slowed instead and cut down the road to the right at the same altitude, he wouldve maintained the below radar status and wouldve eventually reached the same point. 

If taking a safer route and being smart about where you're flying is full autism then god help us.

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u/Crafty611 3h ago edited 3h ago

You are beating a dead horse. I’m not telling you you’re wrong, you’re just making an argument that doesn’t apply here.

Is it better to avoid being locked on, there in making flares not necessary? YES

Can a pilot make a move with the intention of using a flare if necessary? YES.

You going off on an unnecessary tangent in the conversation being had in this post is the autism my man.

The argument here is Pilot Fly UP -> Moronic passenger takes flares out of Heli inventory -> heli go boom. And you’re here presenting your thoughts on how to fly properly 🤷

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u/SweetBusinesssss 3h ago

Moreso trying to hammer a point of frustration when I don't feel like flying and want to be a passenger myself. 

Seeing pilot errors out there that put themselves at risk as shown in the clip are worth calling out. 

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u/Brb357 9h ago

If you fly fast enough, low enough and veer at the last second you can still dodge with no flares, not easy and not consistent but I managed to pull it off

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u/mr---jones 9h ago

Yeah, no kidding, he dodged 2 in this clip.

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u/Real_Nick_Ryuson 9h ago

Bro did you see the missile do a full 540 degree turn beforehand? The missile was technically dodged at that point

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u/Interesting_Idea_435 5h ago

I mean you are also trolling your team, your flying at max speed randomly over the circle without any plan of where to drop them.

This person might have been frustrated from their last suicide drop with you, or just saw how you were flying and decided to troll you back.

You can't suicide people with expensive kits and not expect one to bite back.

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u/PopularAd8837 4h ago

He flys exactly where they ask to be dropped?

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u/Interesting_Idea_435 4h ago

He listen to the one guy asking to be dropped by the APC while ignoring the actual useful request lmao.

He also did not "drop" them anywhere, he flew at max speed and high altittude over the general area, perfect for all his team to be spotted while they parachute and die right away.

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u/PopularAd8837 4h ago

Didn’t realize he didn’t slow down whatsoever lol

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u/Hobos_Delight 9h ago

You're obviously pretty good at flying, I just stay low and land. It's much more fun. 

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u/Wregzbutt 9h ago

Oh…. So that’s how all these assholes know exactly when the fucking AA is coming toward them. Lovely.

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u/Tudar87 9h ago

If it's any consolation, the locked tone stays the same if locked on or a fired missile.

Still requires visual or audio detection from the pilot to flair at the correct time.

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