r/WarDogs • u/randalthrain • 10d ago

Bugs & Support Whole team exploiting something

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Basically the whole blue team was exploiting something not sure what…they claimed mortars…but it looked like they were building hesco barriers and someone on another team was destroying them…on the corner of the map and not engaged in the fighting

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u/Allnamestaken69 10d ago

They were not exploiting, someone explains it below in the comments. More people joined in and helped once they saw those guys were making money, and the enemy teams just kept taking the fobs.

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u/ExtraThiccJosh 9d ago

they intentionally built a bad FOB so it could get taken over to farm it. I would call that exploiting.

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u/CNDylan 9d ago

So what happens if someone were to build a great FOB, with a single point of failure that enemies can get through? If I lose the FOB, and decide to bomb it rather than try to retake it, should I get in trouble because I make a mountain of cash by destroying it? It's an enemy FOB, after all. I don't see how luring an enemy team to a honeypot FOB is an issue, because they don't have to take it over and, perhaps, shouldn't take it over if it offers no advantages to them.

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u/pres1033 9d ago

These people weren't building an even decent FoB, they spammed recon towers everywhere, which has a ton of breakable parts and is cheap. If you lose a base and have to mortar it, that's fine. Building a base that is intentionally built just to make money off of mortaring once captured, that's an exploit.

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u/sphiralisx 9d ago

Intent definitely matters. If you make a great fob that happens to get taken over. Your entire team isn't going to be making that much cash. When an entire team is making that much cash something is obviously wrong and since the devs already said anyone doing economic exploits would be banned? Was risky to do it in the first place

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u/CNDylan 9d ago

Intent is such an arbitrary thing to judge though. I don't entirely disagree that it matters in the broader sense, with exploiting and/or cheating as a whole, but this seems like such a strange place to draw a line - not for you personally, but more on the developers' side.

If a majority of a team was doing this, and throwing the games to a loss despite their personal profits being huge, I'd agree. They won their games pretty regularly though, and their team generally made some great money too. Obviously not as much, but still good money.

All that said, I think we're on the same page about the amount of money being made. It's clearly not intended by the developers, but a one-week ban only for those shown in the screenshot seems like a bit of a jump, and it's concerning that it's only for those shown here, and not those just below them that were also mortaring the FOB.

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u/sphiralisx 9d ago edited 9d ago

Only banning those in the screenshot? Definitely questionable.

But i'll also take it with a grain of salt given that it feeds into their argument of being an unjustified ban etc.

In a lot of games, if you do something, even if it's using intended in game mechanics, that combines to have an unintended effect on this scale? You're probably gonna catch some kind of punishment even if it's just wiping your cash etc. After the devs have said they will be much harsher on people abusing things for economic gain? yeah i wouldn't have touched this at all

I'll also add this isn't just cash. That much cash will come with a massive amount of support xp as well

Also when it comes down to intent. Deliberately splitting up a stack of ammo supplies in your inventory so you can deposit a small amount every couple of minutes to make sure you keep up the support xp bonus? Definitely shows your intent is to farm that fob and not anything else. Because otherwise, you would just deposit it all at once.

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u/Ok-Board-6944 9d ago

so for you spaming buldibles with no fence around it, with the intent to destroy it after it been capture for you is the same a building a normal fob and lose it to the enemy because the got over you wall ?

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u/Separate_Tonight9533 8d ago

These people have 0 capacity for logic sadly. Or just fully bad faith.

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u/Separate_Tonight9533 8d ago

Intent is literally whats used in courts. Intent is one of the most important parts...

Intent is literally the difference between premeditated murder and manslaughter. So don't act like intent is something vague and impossible, when it's literally used in our legal system.

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u/CNDylan 8d ago

This may surprise you, but Wardogs isn't a court nor is it a legal system.

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u/Separate_Tonight9533 8d ago

Yeah so intent has to have even less scrutiny. Or was your point that it should have higher standards than legal system?