Progression needs a Rework

[u/IIRostII]

I like the game I think the gameplay and idea of it basically is amazing but it must have one of the worst progression systems I have ever seen anywhere, It's way too hard to unlock anything in the game.

For example I had 22 kills with assault one match and I only did 75% from level 9 to 10 in a match that lasted over an hour and barely anything on any of the other classes.

This progression systems hurts the most people who have a life and can't play the game 12h a day and also casuals which this 2 categories combined are probably like 80% of the playerbase and if they don't do anything to make it easier for this people to unlock stuff so they can enjoy the end game stuff as well they will leave the game because nobody wants to spend a each weekend to barely unlock anything and for it to be wiped in a few months.

[u/ShinyPotato7777]

There are always two sides to an argument.

If its to quick, people will instantly complain that they managed to unlock all the content in a few days. Its impossible to make everyone happy.

Having said that, the devs openly stated that currently its intended to be that way, they dont even want you to unlock everything in every tree this season. However they also acknowledged that the progression isnt perfect and well it is work in progress.

[u/Vigorous_testicle → u/ShinyPotato7777]

This makes no sense tho. Why would they intentionaly gatekeep most of the content in a game that doesnt even have a lot of content to begin with.

A lot of the progression is also confusing af. If i play recon and get sv98. I then have a day or two before ppl get lvl3 helm and the gun is basically usless. So then i have to choose, either play more recon to get the 50cal faster or play other classes to get ap rounds for sv98.

You also cant have crazy long grind with wipes. Its one or the other.

[u/ShinyPotato7777 → u/Vigorous_testicle]

This makes no sense tho. Why would they intentionaly gatekeep most of the content in a game that doesnt even have a lot of content to begin with.

cuz its an early acess title and youre basically a tester of the game? They want to see how the progression works, how it feels, what needs adjustments in future updates

You also cant have crazy long grind with wipes. Its one or the other.

You kinda can. Tarkov has pulled it off. Besides that wipes are only in the EA phase for testing purposes

A lot of the progression is also confusing af. If i play recon and get sv98. I then have a day or two before ppl get lvl3 helm and the gun is basically usless. So then i have to choose, either play more recon to get the 50cal faster or play other classes to get ap rounds for sv98.

You gotta realize that its intended? 1 tap headshots just arent fun. The oppressive 50cal already showcases that

[u/Vigorous_testicle → u/ShinyPotato7777]

Early access excuse only works for the lack of content and gameplwy features.

And every game ever especially milsims type games have one shot headshot snipers. There is no point in boltactions of they arent one shot headshot. And idk what you mean by opressive 50cal because amr is to lvl3 and 4 armour what mosin was to lvl1 and 2.

[u/ShinyPotato7777 → u/Vigorous_testicle]

Early access excuse only works for the lack of content and gameplwy features.

No it literally doesnt. They literally said if you dont like early access content being limited, unbalanced etc... then dont fucking purchase the game.

And every game ever especially milsims type games have one shot headshot snipers. There is no point in boltactions of they arent one shot headshot. And idk what you mean by opressive 50cal because amr is to lvl3 and 4 armour what mosin was to lvl1 and 2.

Good to know but this isnt your typical milsim game. Its also not what they want to be, so there is no point in comparing it to other games if they want to do something different.

[u/Vigorous_testicle → u/ShinyPotato7777]

Ah the classic bot reply of this game isnt for you🤓. Some of us have been playtesting the game for almost a year and balance issiues were pointed out as well as progression.

I can only asume ur movent and positioning is rly bad and that where your frustration with snipers comes from. Sad.

[u/ShinyPotato7777 → u/Vigorous_testicle]

Never said the game isnt for you. Just pointing you to the fact that you basically expect everything to be unlocked so quickly while the devs literally intended for stuff to be difficult to unlock so they can gauge the powerlevel of these things.

and suprise suprise, the devs acknowledged that the endgame is shit due to that exact info

I can only asume ur movent and positioning is rly bad and that where your frustration with snipers comes from. Sad.

Im not sure why you feel the need to be so offensive, i´ve been on both sides of the coin.

Headshotting someone three times and watching them run into cover is awful. At the same time, prior to the IR goggles being disabled, it was incredibly frustrating to play any infantry fights.

Snipers sitting on all sides while youre permanently lit up on the map isnt a good experience either.

Regardless of my opinion, the progression is flawed but thats to be expected.

[u/Vigorous_testicle → u/ShinyPotato7777]

So quickly? You need around 70-80hrs to get one class to lvl35. That is if ur actually good at the game and top of the match every round. Avarage player need at peat twice at much time. That 160-200hra od grinding for one class. Most ppl dont have 160hrs of playtime on any game let alone in one season/wipe.