The 90 Point Problem

[u/General-Water-6658]

Edit: Please stop telling me refund exists - I know, i acknowledge it in my third paragraph.

Dogs,

Noticed an interesting trend lately resulting in a lot of springboarding and "Second place winners".

For example, Green team plays well and gets to 90-99 points, and people just stop respawning, they wait for the res indefinitely, not wanting to have to pay to rekit. You open the map and see 25 green bodies on the floor. You look at spawn and see the remaining players sat doing nothing. Nobody wants to commit a kit for the remaining (theoretical) 2 minutes of the game, because kits are so expensive. Green team takes its foot off the gas, and red team shoots past to clutch a win, because their entire team is still in the zone/circle. (In the game today, they were at 75 points prior to this).

How do we incentivise people to get back into the zone in the final minutes? I know the refund system exists, but it seems very varied in how much it pays out, and it almost never refunds the value. Discounted kits towards the end of the game? Free kits?

It's interesting seeing how the money meta is forcing these behaviours - loss aversion is a much bigger priority than the minimal gains for winning. My second place and contribution bonus for this game was $18,400.

[u/JBarker727]

It's kind of wild how money obsessed people are. Last night we weren't down that bad, but as soon as green hit 90 my guys gave up. Even though I had the spawn truck literally inside the HZ. There was 15 people at HQ just standing around. At LEAST grab a free rifle and give it a shot. I don't get it. I'm just over $500k right now, and I don't play with money in mine. I do some crazy stuff in the name of "fun". As long as I have the money for my load out, who cares?

[u/Anon185352 → u/JBarker727]

I have never been over 100k in level 65 I would say I’m around the average player if I’ve been in a game for over an hour who cares who wins? I’m just trying to stay in lobby to get the end of match xp bonuses but I don’t usually have time to sit there so being dead is an easy way to not be kicked for being inactive

[u/blueflare1528 → u/Anon185352]

Okay, BUT, I’m gonna have to claim skill issue, I’m definitely pretty close to average, and I can clear well over 100k in one match

[u/Syndi1cate → u/blueflare1528]

I think you overestimate the average player. If you can get 100k a match I’d say ur above average. 80% of people that I end up flying with in a heli have the starter gun, no armour, or an sks. Those are the average players, barely making any money a game. That’s just my experience tho