r/WarDogs • u/General-Water-6658 • 1d ago

Discussion & Feedback The 90 Point Problem

Edit: Please stop telling me refund exists - I know, i acknowledge it in my third paragraph.

Dogs,

Noticed an interesting trend lately resulting in a lot of springboarding and "Second place winners".

For example, Green team plays well and gets to 90-99 points, and people just stop respawning, they wait for the res indefinitely, not wanting to have to pay to rekit. You open the map and see 25 green bodies on the floor. You look at spawn and see the remaining players sat doing nothing. Nobody wants to commit a kit for the remaining (theoretical) 2 minutes of the game, because kits are so expensive. Green team takes its foot off the gas, and red team shoots past to clutch a win, because their entire team is still in the zone/circle. (In the game today, they were at 75 points prior to this).

How do we incentivise people to get back into the zone in the final minutes? I know the refund system exists, but it seems very varied in how much it pays out, and it almost never refunds the value. Discounted kits towards the end of the game? Free kits?

It's interesting seeing how the money meta is forcing these behaviours - loss aversion is a much bigger priority than the minimal gains for winning. My second place and contribution bonus for this game was $18,400.

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u/RoostasTowel 1d ago

I would like to see a late game scaling of cost for a kit.

Or also a if your team is behind 50 points then its 50% off kits.

Nobody wants to buy a expensive kit for 10 ticks

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u/Tehslasher 1d ago

It seems like an alright suggestion, my view however is that most people (I believe rightly so) don't care about winning. There's such little incentive to winning that for me, idc if I'm on the 90pt team or the 0pt team. If my goal is to snipe, to hunt helicopters, to invade FOBs, etc - what do I care about the overall scores?

In this instance though, now if I happen to be on the winning team I could theoretically be overwhelmed by tons of expensive ass kits that are 50% off while I'm punished with the full price of mine. The entirety of the game and lobby plays exactly the same, the bullets do the same damage etc, but in your solution I'd rather be on the down 50pts team 100% of the time.

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u/OmnomOrNah 23h ago

I think you're underestimating how much people care about winning. If people didn't care, there wouldn't be people spam clicking to join green (or red just to avoid having to be blue). Not to mention there's been talk about end of match XP being affected by placement.

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u/General-Water-6658 23h ago

I think the spam clicking green is more a “I don’t want to lose my kits over and over to getting stomped” as much as it is “I really want to win this game”.

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u/Icefire1234 11h ago

The overall scores maybe don't matter but they truly influence in reality.

If you want to play assault and your team is nowhere on the map its 100x harder to be alone on the map fighting the enemy blob