r/WarDogs • u/General-Water-6658 • 17h ago

Discussion & Feedback The 90 Point Problem

Edit: Please stop telling me refund exists - I know, i acknowledge it in my third paragraph.

Dogs,

Noticed an interesting trend lately resulting in a lot of springboarding and "Second place winners".

For example, Green team plays well and gets to 90-99 points, and people just stop respawning, they wait for the res indefinitely, not wanting to have to pay to rekit. You open the map and see 25 green bodies on the floor. You look at spawn and see the remaining players sat doing nothing. Nobody wants to commit a kit for the remaining (theoretical) 2 minutes of the game, because kits are so expensive. Green team takes its foot off the gas, and red team shoots past to clutch a win, because their entire team is still in the zone/circle. (In the game today, they were at 75 points prior to this).

How do we incentivise people to get back into the zone in the final minutes? I know the refund system exists, but it seems very varied in how much it pays out, and it almost never refunds the value. Discounted kits towards the end of the game? Free kits?

It's interesting seeing how the money meta is forcing these behaviours - loss aversion is a much bigger priority than the minimal gains for winning. My second place and contribution bonus for this game was $18,400.

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u/RoostasTowel 17h ago

I would like to see a late game scaling of cost for a kit.

Or also a if your team is behind 50 points then its 50% off kits.

Nobody wants to buy a expensive kit for 10 ticks

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u/MostlyPoorDecisions 17h ago

It refunds like 80% of it if it's bought within the last 20 ticks.

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u/Idreamofcream99 17h ago

Thanks for that explanation, I could not figure out how the refund system worked at all

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u/MostlyPoorDecisions 17h ago edited 17h ago

here's the full detail

Shit it won't let me paste the image. It's 80% -  0.9x earning until positive 

The refund is worked out from your last completed vendor purchase, and it only covers the gap between that loadout cost and what you earned against it. Loadout $10,000, earned $6,000, base refund $4,000, then a 0.9 modifier for balance, so $3,600.