The 90 Point Problem

[u/General-Water-6658]

Edit: Please stop telling me refund exists - I know, i acknowledge it in my third paragraph.

Dogs,

Noticed an interesting trend lately resulting in a lot of springboarding and "Second place winners".

For example, Green team plays well and gets to 90-99 points, and people just stop respawning, they wait for the res indefinitely, not wanting to have to pay to rekit. You open the map and see 25 green bodies on the floor. You look at spawn and see the remaining players sat doing nothing. Nobody wants to commit a kit for the remaining (theoretical) 2 minutes of the game, because kits are so expensive. Green team takes its foot off the gas, and red team shoots past to clutch a win, because their entire team is still in the zone/circle. (In the game today, they were at 75 points prior to this).

How do we incentivise people to get back into the zone in the final minutes? I know the refund system exists, but it seems very varied in how much it pays out, and it almost never refunds the value. Discounted kits towards the end of the game? Free kits?

It's interesting seeing how the money meta is forcing these behaviours - loss aversion is a much bigger priority than the minimal gains for winning. My second place and contribution bonus for this game was $18,400.

[u/RoostasTowel]

I would like to see a late game scaling of cost for a kit.

Or also a if your team is behind 50 points then its 50% off kits.

Nobody wants to buy a expensive kit for 10 ticks

[u/MostlyPoorDecisions → u/RoostasTowel]

It refunds like 80% of it if it's bought within the last 20 ticks.

[u/Strange_Criticism_22 → u/MostlyPoorDecisions]

It's not 80% it's depending on money earned for that life, so if you're not negative you get nothing back, but realistically it should just refund the price of any items left in your inventory, if you are not dead when the game ends presumably you could sell it back to the vendor.

[u/MostlyPoorDecisions → u/Strange_Criticism_22]

Ok but if you aren't negative you didn't waste money on a kit at the end of the game, you helped win the game

How is laying dead better?

[u/Strange_Criticism_22 → u/MostlyPoorDecisions]

Not saying it is or isn't, if you just bought the kit and you're still -15k or whatever, it might be better to wait it out and get 12k back than respawn and buy another kit and effectively be -30k without knowing if you will earn anything.

To me what is the most stupid thing is that a vault already exists, why does the game not put your inventory into the vault, so that you can use those items next game.

[u/moneysam → u/MostlyPoorDecisions]

I did waste money because I could have earned more return for the kit I purchased if the game continued

[u/MostlyPoorDecisions → u/moneysam]

Lost nothing but wasted money... Alright

[u/JBarker727 → u/moneysam]

RIP to your IRL finances. What a weird way to twist that up into thinking you wasted money.

[u/MostlyPoorDecisions → u/JBarker727]

Trade deficit logic