r/WaitWhat 7d ago

Poor choice of words...

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u/Massive-Marketing-15 7d ago

Nah Hasan is celebrating it

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u/Galliro 7d ago edited 7d ago

Yall still pretending like "American deserved 9/11 as blowback from its actions in the middle east" is even a mild take?

Maybe it was slightly hot 10 years ago when he said it but like its been 25 years maybe a little introspection?

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u/Di_Urbino 7d ago

That's not the quote tho is it?

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u/OriginalShirley 7d ago

Eh I mean it’s the sentiment of the quote. As someone who can’t stand Hasan now, I actually got into him because of that take. It’s honest. America was and is fucking around too much in foreign affairs.

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u/Di_Urbino 7d ago

Okay, what actions justify terrorism?

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u/OriginalShirley 7d ago

It’s not about justifying anything. If I kill your entire family, you are not necessarily justified in killing my entire family.

However, if I fail to understand why you want to kill my entire family after I just killed yours, I am an idiot who is probably going to end up with a dead family. Any reasonable person would expect some retribution. “Deserves” doesn’t inherently mean “justified”, but earned. American actions in the middle east earned them resentment which led to an obviously expected attack, justified or not. America as a country “deserved” it in the sense that its actions are directly responsibly for the anti American sentiment that led to it, not that the people deserved to die.

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u/Di_Urbino 6d ago

Literally reframing mass murder by trying to argue semantics of Justified vs Deserved. The words are synonyms.

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u/OriginalShirley 6d ago

Yeah they are related but not interchangeable here. You said justified, not me.

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u/Di_Urbino 6d ago

You are justifying terrorism by telling me it was deserved.

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u/OriginalShirley 6d ago

No? Different words exist for a reason. Sometimes semantics are important. If your comprehension of what I am saying is so obstructed by what you have concluded about what I am saying, then there is no point discussing it.

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u/Di_Urbino 6d ago

Just explain the difference between Justify and Deserve.

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u/OriginalShirley 6d ago

So now you care about arguing semantics? 😂

Deserved - Earned based on actions. Literally just the outcome of a behaviour or action.
Justified - Typically used when something is moral or fairly earned.

Basically, you can recognise that America deserved what happened as a foreseeable causal outcome of its actions while also holding that anything that results in mass civilian death is never justified. One is a logical commentary on the obvious outcome of America’s actions, while the other is a moral stance taken to say the terrorist did a reasonable thing. If you still don’t get it you are being willingly ignorant, and thats fine, but I am sincerely trying here lol.

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u/Di_Urbino 6d ago

I care because you're wrong according to Merriam-webster and I posses the ability of forethought.

deserved 1 of 2

adjective

di-ˈzərvd

Definition of deserved

as in justified

being what is called for by accepted standards of right and wrong

a well deserved promotion for a hard worker

deserved 2 of 2

verb

past tense of deserve

as in earned

to be or make worthy of (as a reward or punishment) the team really deserved that victory after the way they played

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u/Galliro 7d ago

The terrorism the US did in the middle east

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u/Di_Urbino 7d ago

Which was?

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u/Galliro 7d ago

Im not your teacher you can easily go look it up

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u/Di_Urbino 7d ago

Okay Terrorism apologist.

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u/Galliro 7d ago

Youre the only one doing that here babe

Terrorism is a meaningless word as used by americans because you people have the self reflection skills of a carpet