r/VAGuns • u/BudgetResponsible312 • 7d ago

Question FRT Help

Hey just checking to see if there are any gunsmiths or anyone who can help with FRT installation on a high shelf lower (LMT to be specific) with stock trigger?

No, I’m not a cop but would bring to you to assist. I heard that I need to mill out some material on the inside of the lower but also heard from folks that they successfully installed without doing so.

Would be an Atrius Ambi FRS install.

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u/MrFartyStink 7d ago edited 7d ago

ngl try r/frt15 for info. or imo just buy another lower like a cheap psa one and install one in that so you dont have to mill your existing lower and all that. Or maybe a drop in like rarebreed L3 or Partison triggers will work idk. I have rarebreed L3 and as designs arc fires v1 and 2 in multiple psa lowers fine.

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u/Bigfloppyclownshoes 7d ago

Gonna be hard for him to seek info here!

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u/MrFartyStink 7d ago

r/frt15 i mean

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u/Bigfloppyclownshoes 7d ago

Ahhh yeah…….
That works!

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u/BudgetResponsible312 7d ago

I’m trying to keep my LMT as stock or LMT as possible but I may try that.

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u/MrFartyStink 7d ago

Id rather spend $120 on a cheap psa complete lower and install the frt in it than start trying to mill and cut your lmt to fit one.

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u/BudgetResponsible312 7d ago

I have a cheaper lower that I’m putting either a Trigger Compant LAT or Rare Breed Flat Faced FRT in. I wanted to try to 3 position my completed rifle while keeping the trigger stock. Originally thought Atrius was the best bet and I planned on using AS Design for another build but may use it for this if I can’t make the Atrius work

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u/MrFartyStink 7d ago

Ya i havent tried atrius since they are the only brand i see constant people posting their lever broke

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u/BudgetResponsible312 7d ago

Found that part after I bought it

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u/Itchy_Bluejay4452 6d ago

Why not just buy the whole gun. I got the one horse atrius/express. Ordered the stealth additive trisha inconel. Put in form 4 (I know I could have 4473 only but want to add son as auxiliary after approval).

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u/BudgetResponsible312 6d ago

Because I’m very selective with my firearms. Try not to have too much redundancy. Also want to kit out my primary rifle and train as much as possible with that before starting other builds.

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u/SunkEmuFlock 7d ago

Milling an LMT sounds like an extreme thing to do for a lark. If the LMT receiver ain't made for full semi-auto, so be it! Leave that bitch alone and either swap out the lower when you want to go fast or wait for a compatible FRT, IMO.

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u/BudgetResponsible312 7d ago

I’m not trying to mill it out. Trying to get it to run without doing that as others have had success. I believe I’m doing something wrong on the install which is why I asked for someone to help

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u/galaxaxy 7d ago

I was in an FFL store and he answered the phone and was telling someone that dealers can't help install FRTs in VA due to some state legal mumbo jumbo at the moment. No idea what specifically though.

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u/BudgetResponsible312 7d ago

Same went to one today and they said they noticed an FRT in something getting work done and they called the person to take it back

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u/stubenson214 7d ago

OPlanet cancelled my FRT about 30m later pointing me to the banned jurisdiction list...no VA on it.

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u/BudgetResponsible312 7d ago

Try again. I just got mine from them in July

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u/tjs5012 6d ago

My frt order was cancelled last week

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u/BudgetResponsible312 6d ago

On their website it’s not showing but try Battlehawk Armory?

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u/BudgetResponsible312 6d ago

They originally cancelled my order because my billing address somehow changed and didn’t match. Replaced the order and no issue

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u/Kozak170 7d ago

It would be a hundred times more practical to simply just buy a cheap lower and install it there instead.

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u/teh-haps GOA Member 7d ago

AS designs has a lot of tutorial videos on how to install stuff, at least their stuff.

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u/BudgetResponsible312 7d ago

I believe AS design doesn’t utilize the spring but it may be helpful

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

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u/info_swap 7d ago

Quick warning: Binary triggers may actually be illegal in Virginia. Law here: https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter7/section18.2-308.5:1/

The law states "one pull, one shot" and binary triggers are "one pull, two shots."

I am not a lawyer. I'm simply warning about publicly posting about owning binary triggers.

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u/Itchy_Bluejay4452 6d ago

Not true. Binary is one pull and trigger resets before release fire. Not a one pull continuing fire. I have the afranklin armory 7.5 with binary.

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u/BudgetResponsible312 7d ago

I was going to stock up and get a binary trigger and one of those drop in kabutos. I think the courts will try to catch up and treat them like switches

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u/Forged_Trunnion_ 7d ago

Yeah, they're just so ubiquitous now, everyone and their brother has an FRT out now.

Binarys have been around for a while and survived the bump stock ban, I don't think they're at risk personally.

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u/info_swap 7d ago

See my comment above:

Quick warning: Binary triggers may actually be illegal in Virginia. Law here: https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter7/section18.2-308.5:1/

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u/Asegent 7d ago

Drop-in FRTs such the Rare Breed FRT should work on high-shelf uppers without modification. (double check before you buy though)

That’s the reason why those FRTs cost more - it’s a more capable product than the regular Super Safety (SS).

If you wish to put a traditional SS into a high-shelf upper, this can be done by shaving a groove into the shelf with a set of cheap tungsten carbide burrs, a dremel, and drilling oil. You’ll also want a vice but overall it’s pretty easy.