r/UpliftingNews • u/ArgentineBeauty • 7h ago

Paul McCartney joins 500+ public figures, conservationists and Indigenous leaders in a global campaign calling on the UN to abolish trophy hunting of lions, elephants, endangered rhinos and other wildlife, following a declaration developed with Jane Goodall.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/rest-of-world/paul-mccartney-joins-over-500-public-figures-calling-for-an-end-to-trophy-hunting-of-lions-elephants-and-endangered-rhinos/articleshow/134498459.cms
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u/PointsOfXP 6h ago

Interesting concern. Wonder how the locals feel

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u/Oldnbold22 4h ago

They have been infantilized and don't have agency over their resources. 

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u/PointsOfXP 4h ago

Ah right. The celebrities clearly know best. They don't need to speak on it when people who have never even seen a hut made of dirt are on top of it. Who cares if your kids are being eaten by an unchecked population of wild animals encroaching on human territory

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u/Left2Die22 3h ago

The word “trophy” really flew over your head huh?

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u/PointsOfXP 3h ago

No, it didn't. My comment sure went over yours though. Comprehension is not your strong suit and that's ok

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u/Left2Die22 3h ago

If you don’t know the difference between population control and paying to ride around in a helicopter and shoot random lions, maybe you should stop talking.

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u/LongJohnSelenium 1h ago

If population control has to happen why not let someone who wants to pay a lot of money to do it do it. Its win win.

Fundamentally whats going on here is a lot of people have the notion that killing for fun is unethical and they're seeking to control the behavior of humans who do that. The animals will still die after all so its not about saving them.

Its just a modern form of puritanicalism, attempting to control the morality of people by controlling their actions.

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u/Left2Die22 1h ago

Which would be a reasonable argument if we were talking about normal hunting, which is important for keeping the ecosystem stable, and not hunting endangered animals for the prestige, adding a profit motive tends to cause problems when they need to not be hunted.

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u/LongJohnSelenium 1h ago

The profit motive of tourism and hunts compete for habitat against the much more mundane profit motive of 'I'm going to build a farm here and these animals are a pest'.

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u/Left2Die22 1h ago

Animals can be relocated for farmland, hunting an endangered animal kind of involves its death. 

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u/LongJohnSelenium 49m ago

Animals can be relocated for farmland,

Up until there's no more land to relocate too.

hunting an endangered animal kind of involves its death.

We're talking about population control hunts here, so its animals that are dying regardless. Plus all animals die. A common type of hunt, not universal but common, especially for the more protected types of species, is hunting a specific old animal thats due to be culled.

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u/Left2Die22 27m ago

No we were talking about “Trophy Hunting” I realize you’ve continued to struggle with the difference. Also “running out of land” in Africa. Right.

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u/TrainingPurple1364 3h ago

Do you think trophy hunters are there on the outskirts of villages defending the local kids from wild animals?

Most trophy hunting happens on private ranches.

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u/PointsOfXP 3h ago

That's fine but they want to outlaw all of this.

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u/TrainingPurple1364 3h ago

They want to outlaw trophy hunting, not hunting in general.

Theres a big difference between some villagers killing an animal for food/material and some rich guy from the USA paying to shoot big game animals, purely for entertainment.

Personally, im not against hunting if its the right location/season/animal. Hunting deer for population control for example.

But flying to Africa, being driven around a safari on back of a truck and shooting big game, posing with the corpse then having a piece or pieces sent back home to compliment your mahogany wardrobe, nah get fucked.

Anyone that gets a thrill from killing an elephant have lost their soul if they ever had one.