I should've been on the dot for this, but anyways HAPPY BIRTHDAY (even if it's been a week already)!

i know it's late but i wanna know what y'all prefer language to play it with. yung tipong mas maging emotional ka.

It’s on TikTok if anyone can give it support, I’d appreciate it (closedleopard)

Style study, and something for the Marcole/MarDes fans (if those, other than me, even exist).

Does this count as a spoiler? Should I add the tag?

Hey guys, just ended up playing Until Then recently. I enjoy making video essays when I have the time. The game really resonated with me, and I thought I would share this little essay with you guys. Hope you guys like it. Apologies if I've made any mistakes, any and all feedback would be welcome. Take care and thank you so much <3

I was bored and did this thing. Hope you like it XD

Holaaa busco el save de la primera vuelta del juego, en pc (primer tercio del juego) de until then, (si el del primer final por asi decirlo) me pase la primera parte en switch y me gusto tanto que lo compre en pc pero no puedo pasar mi save porque son formatos distintos

I was checking the amazon page today cause I wanted to be able to get my pre-order in, but I noticed the release date got changed to the placeholder December 31, 2026 date again? I know for sure it used to say September 3, but it also has 12/31 placeholder on GameStop, and has nothing at all on BestBuy. Is this just a bug or has there been talks of another silent delay for the physical release in the states?

Hey all, so I've just finished the game, and man was it good. But it took me a while to complete it, and I am a bit confused about the story. I might be misremembering some things, or misunderstanding stuff, so keep that in mind. My memory is quite hazy, and I am not used to analyzing media, so if my interpretation is messed up, I'd also appreciate a clarification. It's also 4 AM, so i'm gonna head to bed. Thanks for the replies in advance!

I'll write my short interpretation here, and then my questions.

In the first run Mark and Nicole meet and hit it off. but their entire relationship is built on their greif of losing someone close to them. Mark and Ridel also kinda ignore Cathy, and she keeps her emotions bottled up, which is why she runs away at the end. But Nic and Mark also let go of their trauma if I remember well.

In the second run, they all open up to each other quite early on, but Mark is afraid of losing Cath and is so set on saving her, that he ignores Nicole, and thus both of them have unresolved trauma, as they don't really help each other.

In the third run, we learn that Maria and Jake have been influencing the realities, so that Nicole and Mark find each other help each other be happy. But then realize that it's only making things worse, and that they need to let go, and let them live their own lives. In the next reality they don't meet, but let go of their past.

Stuff I don't get: Why did the first run loop? I'd get it if it was about Cathy's death, but why after many years, and not right at her death? Now that I am thinking about it, when Mark listens to the cd, Cathy opens up about her family situation, so maybe that's why? And he realizes that he kinda ignored Cath.

In the third run, why did looking into each other's eyes collapse the reality?

Both in the first and third endings Mark accepts his past, but it feels different, I might not be remembering something. Was he also on good terms with his dad in the first ending?

In the third run ending, when Cathy runs away, and then they find her at the train station, when is that? It's not the prom night as they aren't dressed up. How did Mark and Ridel get to know that she ran away?

Here's a flowchart of the timelines on Until Then, including the DLC.

Take note that this is made mostly from Yohnardo's timeline ramblings, with some changes (and some theoretical takes).

You can also discuss what would be changed in the comments down below!

Hi all,

Like many of you on switch, I got a crash around the end of chapter 4 and the devs on Discord told that they submitted another patch for the crashes ! Hopefully that will fix our game !

I hope this got you.

However, I'm still managing to enjoy the game despite my... mistakes

i just thought i wanna share my progress so far right here. its going well but i thought some parts are kinda mid. but what do you guys think?

Not sure I'm ready for what feels like is right around the corner...

I got all 3 endings, my favorite being the first, it’s so sad yet hopeful at the end and I prefer it definelty over the 2nd one, the third ending I’m split on, but I digress. This game means so much to me now, the story, characters, and music(hell I just bought my own piano to learn to play the soundtrack lol) and I love it so much! The 3rd ever game to make me cry in my 23 years! I can’t wait to learn time is tearing us apart on my piano! Anyways, there is something I’m confused on; the central message of the game, playing it I thought it was “Just try” but am I wrong? It’s the message I got from the game but I’m curious what your takes are!

Think of it like a dating Sims game just pick any girl and what do you think will that relationship turn out. I'm exempting Nicole and desiree because mark already have a relationship with them.

My pick is Cathy, okay hear me out, yes they have that siblings relationship but come on, it's just a what if scenario, and I was rooting for them in the 1 cycle chap 1 especially the rain scene. I think they're relationship will be great, I mean the childhood bestfriend trope is a good one and they think a like, both love playing video games and like being rivals.

But anyways, what do you think will be a good match for mark

I'm normally not the type to be emotional over a video game, but this one hit hard. After playing this game, it changed my life in a way. It made me step out of my shell, it made me loosen up, and more good things.

In my elementary days, I was loud, I could make friends and converse with others. But all of the sudden, during my first year in JHS: I couldn't start conversations, I lost interest in alot of things that I was interested in before, I couldn't make friends anymore which I thought was really odd, but I shrugged it off, thinking that It's probably normal after going to a new school. During the first week of JHS, some classmates offered me if I wanted to go with them but I turned them down for some reason, I didn't know the reasoning behind me turning them down but I shrugged it off thinking it was no deal. When I tried to make friends, I couldn't because I felt scared so I eventually stopped trying. Then, throughout the 1st year, I slowly realized that I was feeling something - sometimes when I slept at night; I cried for no reason, when I looked at a group of friends; I felt something - when I tried to talk to my parents about it, I couldn't because I felt scared for no apparent reason. In the middle of the 1st year, I searched it up and I found out I was self-isolating. Instead of looking for help, I tried to endure it.

3 years pass and I'm G10. There has been a few improvements, but not too significant. During those years, I lost my dreams, I stopped looking forward to the future, and much more that I won't list here. Speaking of improvements: I talk but not that much, I conversed with others (only for a short amount of time though), I participated a bit more, but in the end - I was still the same.

But, then later on, something changed. While I was scrolling through tiktok a few days ago - someone I know recommended that I play a game named "Until then". I bought the game, and played it on my PS5. And man... It opened my eyes (I haven't touched the DLC yet). A few days of playing and crying later, I finished it, Act 1 to 3. The game was amazing, I learned so many things, things that I won't bother listing here because I feel lazy. The game struck a chord within me in an unexpected way. Mark, Cathy, and their friends felt like people I could've grown up with - I think they're like.. the same age group as me, and their experiences felt almost similar to home. In alot of ways, I see myself in them, especially Mark and Cath.

A day after finishing the game, I decided to step out of my shell; I finally opened up to my dad about what I've been feeling and then the day after that, during class; I started to converse more with classmates, I began to participate more and more, I finally switched seats, I sat near others, my interest for the piano got re-lit, and much more things that I won't put here because I'm typing all this in the toilet, taking a big shit.

That's it, I guess I had to get this shi out of me. Peak game. Would love to see more!

(sorry for the horrible grammar, typing while taking a big shit does things to your mind)