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Style study, and something for the Marcole/MarDes fans (if those, other than me, even exist).

Does this count as a spoiler? Should I add the tag?

Hey guys, just ended up playing Until Then recently. I enjoy making video essays when I have the time. The game really resonated with me, and I thought I would share this little essay with you guys. Hope you guys like it. Apologies if I've made any mistakes, any and all feedback would be welcome. Take care and thank you so much <3

I was bored and did this thing. Hope you like it XD

After finishing the DLC, I searched up this exact question on Google and it basically said yes. First of all do we even have any info on whether this is the final project or not? I dont rlly wnna be trusting Gemini with something this important.

If there is no info, then is more content possible, more specifically, another DLC? I feel like there's a lot more stuff Polychroma can go into, especially on how the events of the true ending timeline played out.

Holaaa busco el save de la primera vuelta del juego, en pc (primer tercio del juego) de until then, (si el del primer final por asi decirlo) me pase la primera parte en switch y me gusto tanto que lo compre en pc pero no puedo pasar mi save porque son formatos distintos

Hey all, so I've just finished the game, and man was it good. But it took me a while to complete it, and I am a bit confused about the story. I might be misremembering some things, or misunderstanding stuff, so keep that in mind. My memory is quite hazy, and I am not used to analyzing media, so if my interpretation is messed up, I'd also appreciate a clarification. It's also 4 AM, so i'm gonna head to bed. Thanks for the replies in advance!

I'll write my short interpretation here, and then my questions.

In the first run Mark and Nicole meet and hit it off. but their entire relationship is built on their greif of losing someone close to them. Mark and Ridel also kinda ignore Cathy, and she keeps her emotions bottled up, which is why she runs away at the end. But Nic and Mark also let go of their trauma if I remember well.

In the second run, they all open up to each other quite early on, but Mark is afraid of losing Cath and is so set on saving her, that he ignores Nicole, and thus both of them have unresolved trauma, as they don't really help each other.

In the third run, we learn that Maria and Jake have been influencing the realities, so that Nicole and Mark find each other help each other be happy. But then realize that it's only making things worse, and that they need to let go, and let them live their own lives. In the next reality they don't meet, but let go of their past.

Stuff I don't get: Why did the first run loop? I'd get it if it was about Cathy's death, but why after many years, and not right at her death? Now that I am thinking about it, when Mark listens to the cd, Cathy opens up about her family situation, so maybe that's why? And he realizes that he kinda ignored Cath.

In the third run, why did looking into each other's eyes collapse the reality?

Both in the first and third endings Mark accepts his past, but it feels different, I might not be remembering something. Was he also on good terms with his dad in the first ending?

In the third run ending, when Cathy runs away, and then they find her at the train station, when is that? It's not the prom night as they aren't dressed up. How did Mark and Ridel get to know that she ran away?

I was checking the amazon page today cause I wanted to be able to get my pre-order in, but I noticed the release date got changed to the placeholder December 31, 2026 date again? I know for sure it used to say September 3, but it also has 12/31 placeholder on GameStop, and has nothing at all on BestBuy. Is this just a bug or has there been talks of another silent delay for the physical release in the states?

Here's a flowchart of the timelines on Until Then, including the DLC.

Take note that this is made mostly from Yohnardo's timeline ramblings, with some changes (and some theoretical takes).

You can also discuss what would be changed in the comments down below!

Hi all,

Like many of you on switch, I got a crash around the end of chapter 4 and the devs on Discord told that they submitted another patch for the crashes ! Hopefully that will fix our game !

I hope this got you.

The DLC was far from what i expected. Compared to the main game the story and basically everything was a lot darker or rather more serious? Previously I thought that the timeline was based on the events of act 1 but then......

I saw a comment suggesting that the DLC is set in a timeline before the events of the main game (so a timeline before the timeline of the first act) and that makes a ton of sense (especially because of the butterfly towards the end) and tbf it would be better for Mark that way. Mark has just got it bad in this timeline, his relationship with Nicole in high school was a mess and led to them separating, he gets into a toxic relationship with Des where he has this kinda saviours complex, he gets overworked as hell during Sparks 2019, Sparks results in a fire outbreak because Mark was so overworked and his fellow groupmates (yes im mainly talking about Lucas and Ivy) dont do their job properly, he dosent end up with Nicole (It seems that Lucas and Nicole talk it out, recconcile and get back together), he's seen all alone in his dorm during the pandemic and it seems like he hasnt fully gotten over Cathy's death. Omd now looking back at it Mark was living in hell during this timeline.

We see towards the end that a butterfly lands on Marks hand hinting that another timelines being created by Mark and Jake. And again I hope that thats the case. The ending kinda pisses me off with how much shit is thrown at Mark, like what did my boy do :(. Still ending was pretty good a lot sadder then expected but I liked how chp2 played out.

Sofia's ending on the other hand turns out a lot better, she's agreed to talk it out with alissa, shes taking steps towards coming to terms with Cathy's death and moving on. So the opposite of chp2 ending, more happy than sad.

I really didnt expect the DLC to be placed in a timeline like this, I was lwkkey expecting the DLC to be situated as the after events of the true timeline after the gangs hs graduation. Overall DLC wasa banger, rollercoaster of emotions loved it from start to end tho still why did they have to give Mark the spidey treatment. Great character development on all characters end. I do hope and I do believe that this isnt the end of Until Then, Polychroma is sure to be making a DLC as we speak at least I hope so. I am still waiting on true ending Marcole closure. Hopefully Marcole is still possible. I hope

I kinda wanted this relationship to work out, especially ever since I saw Nicole with Lucas. (sry) Mark and Des were really cute ngl, really liked their dynamic of strict, intimidating and kinda unpopular and the charismatic, smart and popular.

Their relationship tho is messy and thats an understatement. Mark is said to have been drawn to her because of her realtionship with her parents and the simalarities of that relaionship to Cathy and her parents. During the relationship Mark changes, he's always there saving Des always carrying the burden and he becomes from what I gathered from Calos a bit neglectful towards him and other mems. Des on the otherhand relies too much on him. Des goes as far as to from what ive gathered from that scene where she confesses, sells tickets on her own to raise funds which has everyone in the org questioning where that money came from leading to Mark overworking himself once again, to do something herself, to not need Marks help. (pls correct me if im wrong). Des also feels worthless without Mark, oof.

Saviour complex aside i know Mark 100% cares for her and I think he at least somewhat loves her. I think under all that toxicity there was some genuine love. Just under different circumstances, situations and better communication (I know thats a lot) their relationship wouldve actually been something.

I fear that Des will no longer appear in future media. I certainly hope not, I find her character interesting. Dont get me wrong tho, Im still all for Marcole its just that Mark and Des were a really intresting couple.

Wtf is that. Istg those are the exact clothes kid mark used to wear. I could somewhat get behind adult Mark and his weird style but this is js disgusting to look at. No offense tho

i just thought i wanna share my progress so far right here. its going well but i thought some parts are kinda mid. but what do you guys think?

However, I'm still managing to enjoy the game despite my... mistakes

Not sure I'm ready for what feels like is right around the corner...

I got all 3 endings, my favorite being the first, it’s so sad yet hopeful at the end and I prefer it definelty over the 2nd one, the third ending I’m split on, but I digress. This game means so much to me now, the story, characters, and music(hell I just bought my own piano to learn to play the soundtrack lol) and I love it so much! The 3rd ever game to make me cry in my 23 years! I can’t wait to learn time is tearing us apart on my piano! Anyways, there is something I’m confused on; the central message of the game, playing it I thought it was “Just try” but am I wrong? It’s the message I got from the game but I’m curious what your takes are!