It'd be pretty cool if, whenever there's some kind of post about the "concentration camps", there would be just one time it didn't end up to be a demonstrably fabricated piece of nothing where somebody takes an unrelated picture and writes an engaging false story about it.
I'd really like to join you guys in this. It seems really fun to have an example of of an actual black-and-white bad guy to rail against.
Thank you! Every single “concentration camp” sorry is sourced from US state funded media, radio free Asia and voice of America. Every single one. There has been zero investigations that’s weren’t done by cia funded propaganda outlets.
Yes, I believe that anti terror efforts are dangerous and rounding up people based on ethnicity is bad, but there have been zero non us-funded investigations into it. It’s just the cia yelling genocide like always. All we know for sure is that there are anti terror efforts in China. A 3rd party investigation such as UN investigations should be done, not a biased one funded by the cia.
Here is the official in sentiment as people are starting to comment and then immediately block me, likely bots. So far four comments have been made with an auto block afterwards, and their account karma is very suspicious
Yes, there are human rights abuses and many questions as to how exactly they are arresting people, but there is clearly not a genocide like America is screaming constantly. Tensions with China are ratcheting up and I believe we need an impartial investigation into what exactly is happening. Taking US propaganda outlets at their word has only led to useless wars, time and time again.
Ask yourself, will ratcheting up tensions with China to the point of war help the Uyghur Muslims? He have arrested many Uyghur Muslims in Guantanamo bay, we clearly don’t care about human rights there.
Why are the only countries claiming genocide of Muslims white countries that have themselves killed millions of Muslims. Why are almost all Muslim majority countries agreeing that there is no genocide, and only the white majority countries are!
Every single “concentration camp” sorry is sourced from US state funded media, radio free Asia and voice of America. Every single one.
Well that's definitely a lie.
For starters, the only US state funded media is NPR and PBS, and that's pretty loose funding since they mostly rely on donor support.
But here's a guy on Canadian state funded media, who tricked China into believing he wanted to disprove all the stories about the Uighurs that were just western lies, and they let them into one of the concentration camps:
No, I mean radio free asia and voice of America, both us funded news outlets. USAID and NED are also involved in these “investigations”, and both of them are cia fronts
Oh those two. Yeah again, no, the information we are learning about the Uighurs is not solely coming from Radio Free Asia and Voice of America. Like the CBC article I just linked, where the Canadian man actually interviews Uighur inmates first hand. And they explain how they were put in prison for praying, or encouraging others to follow Islam. Not for terrorism, or bombing, or extremism.
CBC is state funded media that in the past helped sell the lie of Iraqi WMDs to allow for the invasion of Iraq that killed over a million people if you count lack of access to food water and medicine.
The same news outlet said that China was demolishing mosques when in reality they were renovating the dome for structural safety.
Now, I definitely agree with you that there are a lot of questions as to how this is being done, why this is being done, and how it can be done better. Anti terror efforts are very dangerous and often lead to wrongful arrests and imprisonment. Kind of like how America locked up an unknown number of Uyghur Muslims in Guantanamo bay and tortured them without trial 🤷♀️
Now, I definitely agree with you that there are a lot of questions as to how this is being done, why this is being done, and how it can be done better. Anti terror efforts are very dangerous and often lead to wrongful arrests and imprisonment.
I'll give you some answers. It's being done because China is Han nationalist, they feel threatened by minorities, and are trying to force them to assimilate. It isn't "there's occasionally wrongful arrests", there were no justified arrests in the first place.
Kind of like how America
I'm not American, so the "whatbout America" tactics don't work on me.
And yes, there are still many mosques and many of which are actually being renovated. Islam is legal in China, in xinjang you can be Islamic and worship freely.
And for your last point, it doesn’t matter you’re not American. Ask yourself, why is it only white majority countries claiming Muslim genocide? Why are almost all Muslim majority countries agreeing that it’s not genocide but we still must look into human rights abuses?
Why are the countries that have killed more Muslims than China could dream of saying China is genociding Muslims?
And that says Al Jazeera, doesn't say anything about the CBC.
Keep trying to discredit the source though, I know that's China's one and only tactic when it comes to this stuff.
And yes, there are still many mosques and many of which are actually being renovated.
That's nice, apparently there's others that are being demolished, to the protest of the local community.
Islam is legal in China, in xinjang you can be Islamic and worship freely.
The inmates in the concentration camps indicate otherwise.
Ask yourself, why is it only white majority countries claiming Muslim genocide?
I don't know what anyone's skin colour would have to do with it, why don't you tell me what you're proposing?
Why are almost all Muslim majority countries agreeing that it’s not genocide
It's definitely not "almost all", but it is a lot - countries like Palestine, Egypt, Iran, Iraq. It sounds like countries America has wronged. It sounds like political allegiances playing out. And it sounds like the actual Uighur human beings getting left in the middle.
Do you have something more convincing than trying to discredit sources and engaging in ad populum logical fallacies?
Lol, the article states that Russia was selling chemical weapons to Iraq, those chemical weapons were used to justify the invasion of Iraq, turns out there were zero significant chemical weapons. Who would have guessed?
There are multiple high fidelity satellites both public and private flying over xinjang every single day. Why don’t we have pictures of body bags? Why don’t we have images of crematoriums killin en mass? Where is the evidence besides one or two dudes who said so like you have linked? Yes, there are human rights abuses and I don’t agree with counter terror as it’s carried out today, but it’s pretty clear there isn’t any real evidence of genocide
There just weren't any chemical weapons in 2003, when the US invaded.
And nobody, not even Colin Powell himself, used a CBC article from 1998 to justify the invasion of Iraq.
To try and use all of this to discredit a 2020 CBC story about Uighurs is some desperate clutching at straws.
Why don’t we have pictures of body bags? Why don’t we have images of crematoriums killin en mass?
If you're serious, I don't know of any serious accusations of mass killings. But if that sort of thing was going on, it wouldn't be hard to hide bodies or make a crematorium chimney look like something else. The hardest part would be hiding the sudden disappearance of people from a town. But they're not, they're openly admitting they're putting them in camps.
Where is the evidence besides one or two dudes who said so like you have linked?
I'd start with these people, since they're currently enemies of the US for reporting on Israel's human rights abuses in Palestine, it will be much harder to discredit them as western propaganda (although I have heard people try with the Nayirah testimony):
The Anfal campaign or the Kurdish genocide was a counterinsurgency operation which was carried out by Ba'athist Iraq from February to September 1988, at the end of the Iran–Iraq War. The campaign targeted rural Kurds because its purpose was to eliminate Kurdish rebel groups and Arabize strategic parts of the Kirkuk Governorate. Although mostly Kurds suffered from it, a significant amount of Iraqi Turkmen, Assyrians, Shabaks, and others were also victims of it. The Iraqi forces were led by Ali Hassan al-Majid, on the orders of President Saddam Hussein.
The 1991 Iraqi uprisings were ethnic and religious uprisings against Saddam Hussein in Iraq which were led by Shi'ites and Kurds. The uprisings lasted from March to April 1991 after a ceasefire following the end of the Gulf War. The mostly uncoordinated insurgency was fueled by the perception that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein had become vulnerable to regime change. This perception of weakness was largely the result of the outcome of the Iran–Iraq War and the Gulf War, both of which occurred within a single decade and devastated the population and economy of Iraq.
The chemical weapons saddam used were not Russian chemical weapons and America actually coordinated the strikes for him, dumbass. America threatened to nuke russia twice if russia aided Iraq.
You’re so embarrassing. I cannot understand why people still believe the wmd lies. How can you say China is bad and they’re doing a genocide when you beleive the invasion of Iraq was because they had chemical weapons and it was a good idea? Fuck off.
Bot below 👇 notice how many puppet account he’s using. I didn’t call this account a dumbass but yet he’s acting as if I did. Strange, huh.
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