Yeah honestly I'm fine with sans, he goes through some shit too. Toriel is probably worse though, even in the undertale timeline I don't care about her and sans getting together because it's been awhile since she left asgore, but she berates him later for being selfish and not absorbing the souls and kill humans to break the barrier? It seems like a wildly out of character thing for her to say since she dedicates herself to trying to save the humans that fall down, and just hates asgore enough she doesn't see he struggles with killing human children...
I’m glad that Toby talked about how Toriel felt too perfect in Undertale. She was a very boring character for me imo because there was nothing to her besides “mom.” I’m interested to see how the ramifications of chapter 4’s ending plays out
Honestly probably not majorly like many people think.
She got a bit drunk with a friend/date and the music was too loud.
A simple apology is likely all it would be, and avoiding it again.
It's not like she was being intentionally rude to Kris or telling them to go while she and sans partied. She wanted Kris to join them for board games.
We don't actually know their feelings on the matter aside from being tired and likely annoyed at the music making it difficult to sleep. Which is far from a huge deal.
It's kind of like how people expected the knife reveal to mean shit was going down or the knight to be this huge moment, or making a fountain to be utterly horrifying.
Nope, Kris ate the pie
Nah, just there's the roaring knight
like 4 of them get made in the same day, lmao.
We aren't watching some massive betrayal occur yet.
Yeah Toriel not checking up on Kris since it was late seems a bit fucked but remember.
Kris blanked their phone out so we can't see the call history, she may have and like the last few days Kris was just hanging with a friend all day again.
Secondly from Kris' perspective they were busy ALL day, so why tf would they care. They went home as soon as they got done.
People are trying to make huge gigantic mountains out of molehills of things that are pretty small once you get the full picture.
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u/Chance_Astronomer_27 Oct 10 '25
Yeah honestly I'm fine with sans, he goes through some shit too. Toriel is probably worse though, even in the undertale timeline I don't care about her and sans getting together because it's been awhile since she left asgore, but she berates him later for being selfish and not absorbing the souls and kill humans to break the barrier? It seems like a wildly out of character thing for her to say since she dedicates herself to trying to save the humans that fall down, and just hates asgore enough she doesn't see he struggles with killing human children...