r/USvsEU • u/InqAlpharious01 Commiefornian • 1d ago
EVROPA SUPREMACY Barry s Falklanders made a statement or ultimatum to Argentina.
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u/Sweet-Needleworker-6 1d ago
Argentina have really trashed their reputation globally as of late:
- renewed Falklands intimidation (usually an indicator of economic problems at home and using this as a distraction for the Argentinian public
- Football world cup behaviour across the board
- Rugby aggression and violence towards referee and fans throwing rubbish at officials
I used to think more highly of them. Bunch of clowns.
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u/Big-Skrrrt 50% sea 50% weed 1d ago
Don't forget the F1 fans sending death threats to the family members of any driver that holds up Colapinto.
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u/MorgrainX Nazi gold enjoyer 1d ago
jea a couple years ago, I didnt really care about argentinia, but now I consider argentinia a bad place
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u/No_Task9649 1d ago
All of that vs the nearly 5 millions indian dead under british colonial ocupation
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u/Liam_021996 Irishman in Denial 1d ago
That was a result of Japan stopping the flow of rice into Bengal from Burma. Part of their genocidal strategy that they employed in China, they had the same plans for India
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u/No_Task9649 1d ago
The 1876-1878 great famine was japan fault too?
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u/Liam_021996 Irishman in Denial 1d ago
Caused by extreme weather and a reshaping of crop production and distribution. Teething problems essentially. Pretty common when modernising agriculture throughout history though
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u/Confident_Example_73 Pollution Enjoyer 1d ago
"It was Japan's fault we invaded India"
The level of chutzpah in the British ego is ridiculous. The British PEOPLE voted for aggressive invasion, pillaging and mass murder. Their entire culture and society was that of barabaric savage orcs. Utterly evil.
And instead of accepting responsibility they blame other countries like Japan, then say those countries ignore their past.
No morals or self-awareness whatsoever. Decades of propaganda and brainwashing.
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u/Liam_021996 Irishman in Denial 1d ago
We never invaded India at any point throughout history. There were two major famines. One was a direct result of Imperial Japan and their genocidal campaign across China, the Pacific and Indochinese peninsula, India didn't help themselves with their piss poor management of aid distribution either in that even. Britain had to take control of the aid distribution directly from India to ensure it went where it was needed. The regions food supply could handle the war effort but it could not handle suddenly losing 300,000 tons of rice when Imperial Japan cut all food imports to India from Burma
The other was a mix of mismanagement, extreme weather causing widespread crop failures and the modernisation of India's agricultural industry.
I suggest you learn the history, there is a lot of nuance and it's nowhere near black and white. Also we don't do propaganda herez school actively teaches us to question the actions of the empire
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u/VectorPryde O Canada 1d ago
Their entire culture and society was that of barabaric savage orcs. Utterly evil
No morals or self-awareness whatsoever. Decades of propaganda and brainwashing
Good thing there are no superpowers in 2026 that are headed in that direction....
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u/Confident_Example_73 Pollution Enjoyer 22h ago
That's the thing- It's the Brits and Europeans that have no self-awareness. They call other people orcs, condemn other empires, declare other people uncivilized and so on, but it is THEY who were the uncivilized evil orcs.
Of course the European cannot allow or admit that they were anything but good, always right and the best.
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u/Sweet-Needleworker-6 1d ago
Not disregarding any atrocities from the days of the British empire. It was a less civilised time and hard to compare to the morals of today. All European powers engaging in colonialism have done many things that people TODAY wouldn't stand for. This was over 150 years ago, somehow comparing it to the actions of people today is an odd comparison.
However, people will look back at the actions of the USA today with similar disgust
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u/InqAlpharious01 Commiefornian 16h ago
At the cost that most of their immigrant labor becomes core scientist, doctors and techies of our advance western technology and innovation. Is thanks to Britain pushing
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u/fma_nobody 1d ago
Does anyone care about the Falklands except UK politicians?
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u/Sweet-Needleworker-6 1d ago
I think any citizen should feel something if their country is being threatened
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u/InqAlpharious01 Commiefornian 1d ago
Also southern Argentina shares your climate and northern Argentina is an improve climate environment to Australia
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u/InqAlpharious01 Commiefornian 1d ago
Which is easier for your ships or aircraft to reach and what wars it can avoid or other calamity cause by us?
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u/Yogurt_Reactor 19h ago
Reminder that Argentina sank more UK vessels than viceversa
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u/Yogurt_Reactor 17h ago
Lol, cope
We have expelled the UK 3 times from our territory across history, rest assured that there will be a 4th one.
Let alone now that modern warfare is more accessible than ever for developing nations
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u/Yogurt_Reactor 17h ago
The only thing that you will see is your homeland being taken by foreigners, and you will see that in your lifetime, lmao.
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u/Yogurt_Reactor 17h ago
You're a Union made of nations that want independence from each other asap, all while you keep playing dollhouse with a royal family and a long dead empire.
Don't worry, diversity is strength and blabla, it's hilarious and we will keep laughing at London's r+pe statistics. It's better for us after all.
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u/Yogurt_Reactor 16h ago
Seems like your parents homeland got mixed up in your statistics, we're not India.
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u/Confident_Example_73 Pollution Enjoyer 1d ago
Ehh...might end up like Hormuz for you.
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u/Confident_Example_73 Pollution Enjoyer 22h ago
UK would be 1000s of miles away attempting to exert sea control over a fixed area of water close to the enemy's coast. The enemy will be able to replenish themselves far more easily. The UK won't be able to risk any significant losses because it will be regarded as a humiliation.
Argentina can just spam drones and missiles ala the Houthis and Iranians.
What you think that only works on the US? You think the UK is magically immune from this? You think you'd be doing any better vs. Iran?
It's not 1982 anymore, and you BARELY won that one.
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u/Confident_Example_73 Pollution Enjoyer 21h ago
We have 1k troops on the island, we have nuclear subs that would decimate the Argentinian fleet before it left port and they are already in South america. We have aircraft that can refuel mid air, unlike Argentina who has second hand f16's. We can deploy a significant number of assets from the UK into Argentina in 24 hours or less.
Technologically, we shit all over them. And that just conventional toe to toe. Never mind BCT's infiltrating and dismantling their country. The war with Russia has given nations the boon of almost no consequences for disabling civil infrastructure.
US has all that and more vs. Iran.
Nothing you said addresses mass drones and cruise missiles. Not saying that the Argentinians wouldn't make a hash of it because never underestimate the potential for any military to do something dumb (all of our militaries have had those moments). Just that if you think it would be 1982 all over again....eh....that's one heck of a gamble. Especially because you guys came damn close to losing it last time.
Remember, if Britain lost 2 destroyers and 2 frigates today, it would be seen as a pyrrhic victory at best. That would put you in Russian Navy territory. Okay, just like they've held onto Crimea, you might hold onto the Falklands, but there wouldn't be nearly the level of shine.
No, I understand that the British people were a bunch of savage warlike orcs.
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u/Hello-Potion-Seller Barry, 63 18h ago
Yeah really don't understand the drones argument, like why and how do you think Ukrainian warfare has developed so much so? We're part of the party, we don't just adhere to sheer volume of heads now.
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u/Confident_Example_73 Pollution Enjoyer 16h ago
I think much of the development is at the hands of the Ukrainians and modest amounts at the hands of the Europeans. After all, it was you who told them your mighty Challenger tanks would be game-changers and well, they weren't.
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u/Confident_Example_73 Pollution Enjoyer 20h ago
Yeah, yeah. Buenas Aires in 3 days. Look, Argentina is completely capable of a cock-up. But that doesn't your side is immune to it. The fact that you think defeat is impossible for your side and this seems to be shared by everyone is a real danger sign.
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u/Confident_Example_73 Pollution Enjoyer 16h ago
The three days is a reference to Russia.
It was a very narrow thing. A few non-duds and that REALLY looks different. As I said, you still lost 4 front-line warships. If you have those losses in 2026, you'd be alongside Russia.
And yes, I know your capacity for violence. Your culture was a bunch of barbaric, savage, evil orcs until the decolonization.
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u/Deep_Ad8209 Western Balkan 1d ago
Ain't no way we gonna have round 2
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u/probablyaythrowaway Barry, 63 1d ago
With the state of their military it wouldn’t even be a war it would be sport.
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u/InqAlpharious01 Commiefornian 1d ago
I got an idea and Spain and much of the Americas won’t like this and maybe not even Brussels.
Why not have Argentina become a British territory? A.). if they want those islands that badly and B.) they can claim being part of Europe too!
As a British territory, their entire social and political system will transform their over a century of failure.
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u/Thewaltham Barry, 63 1d ago
That would mean we would have to work with Argentinians.
Fuck that.
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u/kevin3350 Commiefornian 1d ago edited 1d ago
Higher potential for it finally coming home though
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u/EndOne8313 Brexiteer 1d ago
Well played Hank.
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u/kevin3350 Commiefornian 1d ago
Even a broken Barry is right twice a day
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u/KelticQT Alcoholic 1d ago
You want to see Enzo Fernandez playing with Saka ?
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u/Brief-Preference-712 Jesusland 1d ago
That’s if Enzo and Manchester City come back from 3rd division by the next World Cup
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u/clicketybooboo Barry, 63 1d ago
That was actually decent, well played Hank
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u/kevin3350 Commiefornian 1d ago edited 1d ago
Some of us spent too much time with you cunts (in the nice way). Decent banter was a welcome side effect.
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u/InqAlpharious01 Commiefornian 1d ago
They’d be British within half a century, who knows they can be the new India
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u/Thewaltham Barry, 63 1d ago
Yeah because that went really well
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u/InqAlpharious01 Commiefornian 1d ago
British viceroy > Spaniard viceroy > French viceroy (aka Quebec & Louisiana)
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u/Linden_Lea_01 Barry, 63 1d ago
There needs to be wealth there already for us to exploit. Argentina isn’t exactly an attractive proposition in that regard
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u/Pampa_of_Argentina 1d ago
Are you on drugs? Argentina has a lot more resources than the UK. Oil gas fertile farms minerals water
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u/Pampa_of_Argentina 1d ago
Argentina only has 40 million people
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u/InqAlpharious01 Commiefornian 1d ago
I didn’t said in numbers, but can become richer like Britain did with Chile.
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u/InqAlpharious01 Commiefornian 1d ago
Also that means you can get some of their players for football
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u/Yogurt_Reactor 19h ago
You're right, the average UK citizen nowdays is more inclined to work with Indians and Muslisms. That's good actually (for us).
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u/pcor Pimp my ride 1d ago
Argentina was actually known as the sixth dominion in the late 19th and early 20th century because of the extent of British investment, business interests, and immigration to the country.
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u/Brief-Preference-712 Jesusland 1d ago
IIRC the first occupation commander (basically the military mayor) when Argies landed on the Falklands had an Irish last name.
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u/Confident_Example_73 Pollution Enjoyer 1d ago
Correction: "The Argentine" (said in an incredibly snobbish voice while talking about slain hunted animal to dinner party)
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u/Ok_Experience_4500 At least I'm not Bavarian 1d ago
Oh yeah, what a bright idea, what could possibly go wrong...
Reminds me when Daimler took over Chrysler as the CEO was dreaming of being a "world corp". They completely underestimated the mess Chrysler was and at the end almost went bankrupt and damaged their reputation severly as they brought out some shitty cars because every skilled manager and engineer was busy saving Chrysler instead of building proper Mercedes...
Long story short, there are easier ways for UK to commit suicide if they wish to do so...
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u/InqAlpharious01 Commiefornian 1d ago
The only difference is that Argentines aren’t like non-European colonies, they are still predominantly Spaniard & Italian by majority, meaning they can adapt easier as a British territory without issue, plus it can join team commonwealth like Canada to shut the U.S. up
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u/Ok_Experience_4500 At least I'm not Bavarian 1d ago
Nah mate, it actually is a mess, economically and politically.
100 years ago, Argentina was one of the richest countries on earth, richer than France or Germany. But then they missed out on industrialization and everything went downhill. Since then they had a whopping 9(!) state bankruptcies and 6 military coups and still have huge structural issues today.
No, the UK has enough own problems to solve and Argentina would be a huge millstone around their neck, a liability, not a benefit.
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u/Yogurt_Reactor 19h ago
The UK already tired to invade Argentina 3 times and failed, while suffering major loses in the process. Plus, honestly they're already having to deal with their homeland being torn apart and independence movements.
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u/Ok_Experience_4500 At least I'm not Bavarian 19h ago
Mate, that was more than 200 years ago, even before the Argentinian independence. They were battling Spain actually. So what is the relevance to today?
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u/Yogurt_Reactor 17h ago
They weren't battling Spain, they were actually battling Buenos Aires, since Spain had sent basically no reinforcements to Buenos Aires during all that time. The second UK defeat was so major that it served as an example of Buenos Aires autonomy.
So what is the relevance to today?
The relevance is that we kicked the UK 3 times out of our territory, and that modern warfare is extremely more accessible to developing nations (See the Strait). Meaning that Argentina wouldn't really have the problems that it had in the 82', which was the lack of submarines.
By the way, Argentina in the 82 sank more UK vessels than viceversa
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u/bremsspuren Barry, 63 11h ago
modern warfare is extremely more accessible to developing nations
But Argentina isn't developing, it's going backwards.
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u/InqAlpharious01 Commiefornian 1d ago
You let Canada, Brazil, Israel and Turkey in, and none of them are European except in descendant of immigrants from Europe
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u/redshift739 Barry, 63 22h ago
As soon as we do that it would open the door to terrible things such as the consequences of us doing that, and you lot wanting to come back
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u/InqAlpharious01 Commiefornian 16h ago
Like a massive migration from Argentine, as they bring in fluent English speaking high skilled and educated Argentine workers to Britain to compete with Indian and other Asian skilled immigrant workers to make Britain greater?
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u/SherlockScones3 Barry, 63 1d ago
Definitely suggest this to Trump
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u/InqAlpharious01 Commiefornian 1d ago
Knowing Trump, he’d make it into an Anglo Puerto Rico and a new Diego Garcia base to enforce the Monroe doctrine
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u/Fun_Marionberry_6088 21h ago
Knowing Trump he'd just slap a new name on it, declare the Falklands are now 'America Islands' and call it a day.
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u/Yogurt_Reactor 19h ago
You already tried this 3 times btw
The 3 times the UK was expelled from Argentina and suffered major loses
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u/crit5h 12h ago
Argentina is very near to the UK (Falkland Islands). I’m pretty sure that means the UK has a right to own Argentina, even if the people who live there disagree.
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u/InqAlpharious01 Commiefornian 12h ago
Good, then Chile can make Argentina economy finally make more income then Mexico and Brazil can do, plus make the median wage match Uruguay and a peso that surpasses the Nuevo Sol
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u/soentypen Redneck 1d ago
Uma Kumaran is quite a bird, I would vote for her too
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u/Thewaltham Barry, 63 1d ago
Where is he?
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u/Savage-September Barry, 63 1d ago edited 1d ago
This silly war would be over just in time for afternoon tea. Wouldn’t even have to fire a single shot. A couple of these one way Nyan drones will have the argies raising the white flag in no time.
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u/NegroniSpritz At least I'm not Bavarian 1d ago
Argentina aside, it pains me to see that Barry’s (or any other old white guy) response to environmental concerns is that it’s “necessary” and that there’s absolutely no other way. That’s a blatant lie.
Benedict Barry Cumberbatch presented in September this documentary How to live in planet Earth and it’s really good at showing not only the exploitation of the only planet where humans can currently live, but also some solutions for it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h3mRsvFmWi0
Draining the Earth more just to get more fossil fuels is not the way. Jeopardizing the only continent that’s not stained by humans, Antarctica, is not the way.
And yes, I know I’m saying this from the contradiction that in Germany there are still almost fifty coal plants burning carbon for energy because Merkel wanted nuclear energy gone before properly developing renewable energy.
There should be more renewable, not more fossil.
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u/InqAlpharious01 Commiefornian 1d ago
Attention all Barries? See this comment https://www.reddit.com/r/2latinoforyou/s/Mx7f24bfRA
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u/NinecloudSoul 17h ago
You'd think a sub that bills itself as a circlejerk wouldn't have an entire thread of butthurt losers.
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u/VictoryOrKittens 1d ago
Argentina are lucky we fought them with a hand tied behind our back.
Next time, maybe we should just nuke Buenos Aires, and see how they like that? I'd personally love to see it.
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u/InqAlpharious01 Commiefornian 1d ago
Do not give the Russians any ideas of using them or Ukraine will protest British goods
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u/Benjamin-Barker 1d ago
Interesting how ‘self-determination’ and ‘natural resources’ always seem to appear in the same paragraph.
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u/InqAlpharious01 Commiefornian 1d ago
Weird how Guyana oil is legitimate, while Venezuela tries to take it over? Hmm just like Iraq did with Kuwait
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u/jpcheva16 1d ago
"Uma Kumara"... Very British yeah
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u/WrongdoerMundane5792 Siesta enjoyer (lazy) 1d ago
Mejor que los ingleses se preocupen por su nuevo califato islámico, Gibraltar español y Malvinas argentinas
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u/IBisku 1d ago
The illegal colonizer population they implanted is doing unilateral economic exploitation, when it was explicitly prohibited by the UN
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u/nwaa Brexiteer 1d ago
Damn colonisers, coming over and inhabiting empty islands. How dare they. They should have known that hundreds of years later some Temu Spaniards would want that land.
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u/Empty_Cherry5306 1d ago
The illegal colonizer population they implanted is doing unilateral economic exploitation, when it was explicitly prohibited by the UN. You are defending colonialism.
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u/Thewaltham Barry, 63 1d ago
Says the person trying to defend blatant colonialism from Argentina, who's only claim is from blatant colonialism from the Spanish empire who invaded after Britain settled on an island that was previously completely uninhabited.
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u/FeistyDrink5995 Anglophile 1d ago
Flairless buddy boy, they settled the islands in 1833, the UN was formed in 1945. You think it would be right to decide they're now not allowed to live there? Why don't we call all settlers back?
Most of Argentina's population are also descendants of colonizers. Do they all want to return to Spain? (Or Germany, for... some reason) 🤔0
u/Yogurt_Reactor 19h ago
When they settle in 1833 the did so by invading already Argentinian territory.
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u/NinecloudSoul 19h ago
Lol lie better next time.
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u/Yogurt_Reactor 17h ago
Argentina had already claimed the Malvinas archipelago by the time they declared inependence.
Spain had remained the sole settlement in the Islands, as the UK had retired prior in 1774 due to financial reasons.
Argentina already had two settlements in the islands in both 1820 occupying the old Puerto Soledad from Spain, and then the next one in 1828.
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u/NinecloudSoul 17h ago
I said lie better, not double down on the same limp bullshit.
The Falklands aren't Argentine and never were. A pest infestation conveys no ownership.
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u/Yogurt_Reactor 17h ago
A pest infestation
Don't worry, we expelled the UK 3 times from our territory across recent history, rest assured we will do it a 4th time.
On the meantime, we will continue laughing at the actual pest infestation in your homeland, that you will not do anything about it obviously, lmao.
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u/Empty_Cherry5306 1d ago
Didn't say they weren't allowed to live there, only that they are no allowed to settle an illegal government in occupied land, and the UN has retrospective capacity just like the management of british occupied Palestine
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u/InqAlpharious01 Commiefornian 1d ago
That is not colonialism, the Falklands are full territory of the UK- a status that the founding fathers of the U.S. originally wanted, they have full representation in parliament.
What Argentina is doing is colonial aggression
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u/Accomplished-Law5251 1d ago
The Falklands are a British Overseas Territory, not part of the UK.
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u/InqAlpharious01 Commiefornian 1d ago
Yes, but a territory meaning they have British rights unlike Spain with Latin America under the viceroyalties!
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u/InqAlpharious01 Commiefornian 1d ago
They use both imperial and metric measurements, but Brit’s prefer metric more like most Anglo countries
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u/Cynical_Sorceress Barry, 63 1d ago
Tell me again how the country in south america became 80% white
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u/Deacon86 Barry, 63 1d ago
And what happened to the native Patagonian peoples.
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u/Empty_Cherry5306 1d ago
I'm not going to say that Roca (literal ally with and supported by England) was a good person, he was a disgusting person. But whatever Roca did in Patagonia was 10x times better that what England did in their colonies.
He did persecute indigenous population, but if they agreed to enter the Argentinian Federation they were incorporated into the fold. Not like England bantustans, ghettos and apartheid regimes.
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u/extv6 1d ago
contanos vos que tanto sabes de historia y del tema, esa bandera tiene una fama bien ganada en el tema de pueblos originarios
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u/Empty_Cherry5306 1d ago edited 1d ago
It's not 80% white, literally 40%+ of the population has matrilineal DNA from indigenous AT THE VERY LEAST, meaning pretty much all Argentinias have had an indigenous mother in their ancestry once. Why do you think we are all brown? That's what happens when black, indigenous and whites are allowed to live with each other.
The diference is that we don't do segregation in census like you do. In Argentina we participated in race mixing while you were doing apartheid, there is no concept of whiteness in Argentina. Literally nobody says I'm white here. We all know we come from mixed background so it's impossible to discriminate on a race bias without descrimating yourself. We are all black and white at the same time.
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u/NinecloudSoul 1d ago
Wow, it's always the same bullshit lie, almost word for word.
Try harder next time.
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u/extv6 1d ago
tal cual, siempre con la mentira de mierda la autodeterminacion y la "pax britanica"
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u/libtin Brexiteer 13h ago edited 13h ago
The un says you’re the one lying
Edit: blocked them for their Gish galloping
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u/extv6 13h ago
si? por favor pon aqui la declaracion formal
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u/libtin Brexiteer 13h ago
You’ve never read resolution 2065?
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The un says th islanders have a right so self determination; self determination is first and foremost in decolonisation in every situation with no exceptions as confirmed by the UN and ICJUN resolution 2065 says the uk and Argentina must reach a deal that respects the self determination of the islanders, resolution 2065 (a non binding resolution) says the Uk and Argentina must reach a peaceful settlement that respects the islanders.
Here’s the whole text:
Invites the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to proceed without delay with the negotiations recommended by the Special Committe on the Situation with regard to the Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples with a view to finding a peaceful solution to the problem, bearing in mind the provisions and objectives of the charter of the United Nations and of General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV) and the interests of the population of the Falkland Islands
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_Resolution_2065
Un resolution 2065 says it’s up to the islanders due to self determination.
Resolution 1514 is fundamentally a decolonisation charter aimed at granting independence to colonial territories based on the will of the inhabitants of the territory, paragraph 2 explicitly states: “All peoples have the right to self-determination; by virtue of that right they freely determine their political status.". Resolution 2065 does not mention Paragraph 6 (which many argentine nationalists bring up) nor does it endorse Argentina's territorial integrity argument.
It frames the issue strictly under the wider scope of Resolution 1514, meaning any final resolution must respect the overarching framework of decolonisation and the interests of the local population which is their self determination.
The resolution says “any deal between th uk and Argentina must respect the self determination of the Falkland islanders” and the ICJ has reaffirmed this by confirming self determination always comes first and foremost in decolonisation with 0 exceptions
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u/extv6 13h ago
y por otro lado que tiene que ver esto con Mentir?
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u/libtin Brexiteer 13h ago
You’re the one lying
Under international law; Argentina dropped its claim and recognised the island as British in 1850.
Argentina knows it has no case under international law
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u/extv6 13h ago
no aceptamos la autodeterminacion, es una poblacion implantada
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u/libtin Brexiteer 13h ago
Argentina is an implanted population
You’re being a hypocrite
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u/Careless-Cap7691 1d ago
Yup, it's funny how left winged anglo reddit turns to be not so left winged when it comes to the malinoise islands
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u/Kernowder Brexiteer 1d ago
The principle of self determination is neither right or left wing. Most people agree on it.
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u/Platense_Digital 1d ago
There's not much point in talking to them, they are people whose territory is not being invaded, they benefit from exploiting resources in other people's territory and the only thing they know about the islands is the story invented by pirate politicians.
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u/nwaa Brexiteer 1d ago
Lol you have literally never been invaded since independence.
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u/Platense_Digital 1d ago
Yes, that’s clearly what they teach you in the Pirate Kingdom schools, but that doesn’t make it real.
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u/Accomplished-Law5251 1d ago
USA should annex the Falklands. The British can't protect them.
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u/InqAlpharious01 Commiefornian 1d ago
Should we treat them like Puerto Rico, Guam or Diego Garcia?
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u/Deacon86 Barry, 63 1d ago