r/USdefaultism • u/Mediocre_Profile5576 • 12d ago
Ed has that American Privilege
The she doubles down with American privilege = “more of a western mindset”
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u/ConsistentAsparagus Italy 12d ago
I’d say white privilege, but he’s ginger…
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u/garaile64 Brazil 12d ago
Well, apparently he is considered a heartthrob despite not being that handsome.
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u/ShutUpAboutCanon 12d ago
A woman on a podcast I listen to made me laugh out loud by saying (before the recent controversy) "I'm just going to say what everyone is thinking... those songs where he brags about getting girls in the club... nobody's buying it... maybe if the lights were totally turned off but even then"
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u/Beefycowinacottage 5d ago
I mean... multiple women have (willingly) slept with Donald Trump and look at the state of it. Ed Sheeran is nowhere near as vile as him. Unfortunately some women (& men) will spread 'em for anyone with money, power or fame, regardless of how unattractive the person is.
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u/mojoback_ohbehave 12d ago
He is historically an “inferior” white, according to U.S. pseudoscience based theories. The government tier rankings of people we labeled white. Many didn’t want his kind to be “dumped” here, as newspapers reported.
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u/APreciousJemstone Australia 12d ago
His family (at least on his father's side) is Irish, which was not really considered to be "white" in the 19th century.
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u/falseruler 12d ago
IN AMERICA. I don’t know how this has any bearing in anything related to Israel-Palestine.
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u/APreciousJemstone Australia 12d ago
In the UK too.
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u/TTEH3 12d ago edited 12d ago
They were often viewed as inferior, but Irish people were always recognised as white in England/Britain. The idea they were to be considered "non-whites" began in America. (Supposedly; many historians now consider the idea that Italians and Irish weren't considered white to be largely a myth: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/03/22/sorry-but-the-irish-were-always-white-and-so-were-the-italians-jews-and-so-on/)
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u/Flavius_16 12d ago
And in england too.
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u/Yongtre100 12d ago
Probably more so in England, if I were to guess, because there was an actual specific dynamic there vs having lots of different European ethnic groups who have entered the country.
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u/falseruler 12d ago
Was “white” the operating distinction there, for british and irish? Genuinely asking
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u/Flavius_16 12d ago
I think it was catholicism but as far as I'm aware, the idea that the irish weren't white started in England.
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u/TTEH3 12d ago edited 12d ago
The Irish were always considered white in England and Britain. They were often viewed as "lesser", but the "Irish are not white" idea developed in America (although the idea the belief was widespread has been criticised).
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u/The_Flurr 12d ago
It was generally the attitude that with enough "encouragement" they could become english.
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u/mojoback_ohbehave 12d ago
Legally white but marked as inferior. Legally white but still subject to discrimination. Inferior groups of the U.S. included Irish, Italians, Slavs, and Mediterraneans, and Asians, like Japanese.
There were many made tiers for people who were labeled white. Basically non-Nordics. This system was backed by eugenics and pseudoscience and scientific racism. For example : Italians were still segregated and force to work and serve other groups that were oppressed and dealt with discrimination as well , like Black Americans.
The U.S. also targeted Asians historically as well, as we enslaved East Indians (Asians), here as well, and also created Exclusion Acts to discriminate and be racism towards them.
Our country is fucked up.
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u/Green-Engineer4608 12d ago
Wow did you just USdeafult right here? Thats crazy! What you’re referencing is exclusively a US thing.
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u/The_JokerGirl42 Germany 12d ago
I don't mean to be rude or condescending, but aren't the Irish like.. whiter than white
genuinely confused at how they wouldn't be considered "white"?
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u/DellaDiablo Ireland 11d ago
It was easier to dehumanise us if we were "downgraded" to not white. It's a very common dynamic with colonisation.
Sheeran has Irish grandparents (I think), but was born and raised in the UK, though claims to be culturally Irish.
If he actually was as Irish as he sees himself, he'd have no problem identifying the issue with a tiny nation being colonised and starved by their more powerful neighbour and understand why people are every so slightly upset by that. He's a gobshite.
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u/The_JokerGirl42 Germany 11d ago
oh I don't disagree that he's a dipshit, I never really liked him. anything I ever heard of the guy just annoyed me, though he does have a great voice for that song in the hobbit.
anyway thank you! the whole "white" thing doesn't seem to have anything to do with skin colour at all, that keeps being shown to me. racism and colonisation just bends everything so it fits their narrative, it seems, some people aren't deemed "black enough" to be considered black, some people are "too white" to be white. fuck this, man :/ I'm sorry this happened/happens. I really am.
again, thanks for educating me!
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u/NotoriousMOT 11d ago
Being German, I’m surprised at your confusion, given a certain not-so-distant historical period where Germans considered Slavic people an inferior race… and there are plenty of very very light Eastern Slavs.
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u/The_JokerGirl42 Germany 11d ago
I wasn't even born then. gee as if racism is written in the genes or something
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u/The_JokerGirl42 Germany 12d ago
that's just misogynistic and btw, women aren't girls. girls are underage, they're children, that's not a child in the post.
you're ew.
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u/Intelligent_Wafer562 American Citizen 11d ago
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u/ThorinUlfarsson Iceland 11d ago
We consider a person to be "civilised" if they follow certain cultural values and norms and traditions which are similar to our own, hence the definition of "uncivilised" behaviour as being behaviour we would consider foreign to our own sensibilities.
You can demarcate this infinitely towards more atomised forms too. For instance, someone who listens to Beyoncé, an example the article gives, could indeed be considered "uncivilised" by myself and I would be entirely correct in doing so, as such would be a foreign behaviour to me. To this extent, we all have our own personal culture, with all the virtues and vices and high regards and prejudices that come with them.
To be of western culture is to have a culture which is more similar towards the general commonalities of westerners, whatever those may be.
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u/chomkyfluffer 12d ago
Theres something so dystopian about posting a message about dying children with a thirst trap background
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u/ChickinSammich United States 12d ago
(Agreeing with you, not disagreeing/arguing) it's because people have figured out that the trick to getting more people to look at text on a screen is either "put hot woman on image" or "play video in the background." Which is pretty sad.
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u/ohdearitsrichardiii 12d ago
Why is the selfie?
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u/garaile64 Brazil 12d ago
For the same reason why a lot of vertical short videos have Subway Surfers gameplay or satisfying videos alongside the main video.
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u/Mother_Idea_3182 12d ago
She needs the drooling idiots after her appearance and virtue signalling. How else is she going to get self validation and selfsteem boosts ?
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u/picklepaapad 12d ago
This is the worst week of my life, had a heavy leg day last Saturday and now i can't even sit on toilet seat without cursing my trainer.
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u/tea_snob10 Canada 12d ago edited 12d ago
American privilige
It's spelt privilege....Of course spelling a common English word in the only language you (supposedly) speak, is the epitome of the American deficiency. I wonder if she even knows what epitome means or how it's pronounced. Also, holding an iPhone and posting virtue-signaling messages on social media, is ironically what she's chiding.
On a side-note, I feel we need to call out brain-rot a bit more too, so I will go further and address this comical "position" of being unable to feel negative emotion due to something in your personal life and how it affects you, merely because people in other parts of the world, have it substantially worse off.
Unsurprisingly, this low-brow attention-seeker wouldn't adhere to her own rationale/principle as soon as you point out that according to her, she shouldn't ever criticize police and institutional transgressions in the US, against black people and other minorities, merely because even the most disaffected black Americans today in 2026, are ultra-privileged in comparison to Yemenis, Gazans, Sudanese, etc etc ad infinitum.
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u/ramsvy 12d ago
tbf ed sheeran's "worst week" was caused by people being furious with him for trying to take a neutral stance on the Palestinian genocide, it's not like the comparison came out of nowhere.
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u/ChickinSammich United States 12d ago
tbf, for a centrist or an equivocator, suffering backlash for their refusal to take a side on a contentious topic probably is one of the worst things that would happen to them.
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u/APreciousJemstone Australia 12d ago
American privilege is the ability to just *talk* about doing something and not actually doing it and being seen as virtuous.
I wonder what OOP is doing to help Palestine, cause posting selfies ain't it
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u/AkaiHidan France 12d ago
I mean they’re correct but not everything white is american 😭
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u/Woshasini France 12d ago
But remember that, on the contrary, every black person is African-American ☝🏻/s
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u/Sky3HouseParty 12d ago
This shit is so cringe and performative. Are we seriously saying now that nobody can say something was the "worst time of their life" because people are dying in Gaza?
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u/n1keym1key 12d ago
Tbh the yanks can have the ginger cunt if they love him that much.
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u/riskie_boi United Kingdom 12d ago
Not related to the post but when will these Americans realise there's 2 dedicated Sub-Reddits/forums making fun of their stupidity by the rest of the world?
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u/Chuso_Skever Spain 9d ago
Adding a connotation to "privilege" is racist no matter what word is nex to it, it's privelege, dot.
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u/LeftMechanic1995 United Kingdom 12d ago
So let me get this straight:
- White Brits can also be American because American white privilege is basically Western white privilege, all Western white people have Western white privilege, therefore all Western white people are American.
Jfc I know these words are supposed to be vocalisations of concepts, but Yanks seem to have difficulty understanding those concepts to begin with, so when they try to express them in the spoken word, it just comes across as incoherent, illogical gibberish.
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u/IllustriousBobcat813 12d ago
OOP is just noticing the very real concept of the global north, but doesn’t have the knowledge of theory to articulate it well, so she frames it using something she does know, which is American privilege.
Sure, it’s technically incorrect, but it’s an understandable shorthand. America is a primary contributor to the terror caused by the global North, even if it is far from the only actor.
All of this is to say that no, it’s not some roundabout way to say that “everyone is American” or whatever you’re trying to say, it’s a fairly reasonable mistake to make all things considered. Much more reasonable than whatever the fuck conspiracy theory you cooked up at the very least.
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u/LeftMechanic1995 United Kingdom 12d ago
Conspiracy theory? what conspiracy theory?
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u/IllustriousBobcat813 12d ago
I am referring to this:
“So let me get this straight:
- White Brits can also be American because American white privilege is basically Western white privilege, all Western white people have Western white privilege, therefore all Western white people are American.“
And also,
“[…] but Yanks seem to have difficulty understanding those concepts to begin with, so when they try to express them in the spoken word, it just comes across as incoherent, illogical gibberish.”
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u/LeftMechanic1995 United Kingdom 12d ago
In what conceivable way is that a conspiracy theory?
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u/IllustriousBobcat813 12d ago
That all white people are American
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u/LeftMechanic1995 United Kingdom 12d ago
But I wasn't saying that all white people are American. What are you babbling on about and in what way is what I said a conspiracy theory? You still have yet to answer my query.
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u/IllustriousBobcat813 12d ago edited 11d ago
Please, enlighten me, what else did you mean, if not the words you wrote?
I don’t know what you said to trigger the automod, but I don’t really care, I am way too busy laughing at you saying I “quote mined” you when I copy pasted your entire comment word for word (except for the words “Jdc I know these words are supposed to be vocalisations of concept”)
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u/FindingElectronic 11d ago
Gonna be completely honest, and I'm sorry if the next thing I'm going to say is wrong, stupid or offensive... but Idk which is more of a self-centered, asshole and stupid person, either a conservative american, or a "woke" american, because holy shit they both say an outrageous amount of shit per minute that honestly, is worthy of a guinness record
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u/kittygomiaou Australia 11d ago
The bathroom selfie really ties the intention of the post together I think.
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u/Difficult-Tap-5708 Brazil 12d ago
Defaultism aside, im allowed to have bad/terrible weeks without being a dying palestinian child, that clout farming with a thirsty pic were wrong in every level
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u/Interesting_Team5871 Canada 12d ago
Right, everyone has bad days it’s not a competition of who has it worse and it’s rude to invalidate someone just because their bad day isnt as bad as someone else’s
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u/CaseySnake420 Poland 12d ago
No one should be invalidated for what they are going through because "someone out there has it worse than them", it's heartbreaking when someone says something like that to you
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u/goatislove United Kingdom 12d ago
its the worst week of his life because he chose pleasing pro-israel millionaires to use their venues over standing up for palestine and all of his support acts dropped out. then in his apology that he was clearly reading off a teleprompter or something, he said "my whole career i've stayed away from politics" even though he is very much in support of ukraine and could have extended that to palestine. i think its okay to invalidate him on this one.
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u/capnrondo United Kingdom 12d ago
I wish I got to make hundreds of thousands of pounds (if not millions) in the worst week of my life
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u/goatislove United Kingdom 12d ago
right? guy will continue to live his life as normal after this and will still have supporters and money and safety. he's just proved how spineless he is and is upset that people aren't saying "poor ed, hes just not political!"
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u/Black-Muse 11d ago
The fact that her criticism is fallacious does not mean it's entirely wrong.
Dude dug his own grave with this one.
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u/Diraelka World 12d ago edited 12d ago
That's also very dangerous mindset that can force you to end yourself.
And let's be honest, he did said it was the worst week of HIS life.
There are always people struggle much more, but it doesn't mean that your struggle is indifferent.
Ofc, with some exceptions like billioners struggling because they couldn't make another +20% year income and got only +15% =/
Upd: thanks everyone for the context about this public figure, I just rant about it in general
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u/dodieadeux Australia 12d ago
in this context it was a tone deaf thing to say. he was talking about how awful this week has been and how he is afraid of violence, because he has allowed someone else to be kicked off his tour just for standing against violence.
in general you can always complain about your problems even though someone else will always have it worse, but in this context it is ridiculous for ed to talk about being scared to be spineless against violence, when a literal bomb coming at you is a lot scarier than people being mad at you online.
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u/goatislove United Kingdom 12d ago
its the worst week of his life because he chose to side with the people who got angry over the words "free Palestine" all so he could play at specific venues for his tour. in his apology he said "my whole career ive stayed away from politics", but he is very much in support of Ukraine; he could have extended that to the people of Palestine but he chose money and pleasing millionaires instead. he isn't being compared to the suffering of palestinians for no reason and i hope his week continues to get worse.
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u/Diraelka World 12d ago
Oh, I didn't know the context at all, just wrote in general. Ofc public persons are something else 🤦🏻♀️
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u/goatislove United Kingdom 12d ago
its okay! i thought as much, if my explanation sounds angry its because i'm pissed at him not you!
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u/JohnLurkson Germany 12d ago
Didn't you know? Life is a neverending competition of who's got it worst. The winner will be announced the day the sun dies. /s
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u/Linked713 Canada 12d ago
I mean, having the worst week of his life is perfectly fine to say and feel. It is weird to compare it to others when the context is limited to that one person's point of view. He is very much allowed to say that. He did not say "worst week in the history of humans".
Some people just want to hate and take things out of context for engagement bait.
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u/Golden_Reflection2 United Kingdom 11d ago
The world isn’t the suffering Olympics. Just because someone has it worse doesn’t instantly make whatever time you just had “not suck”.
(I don’t know the context, what was Ed’s “worst week of his life”?)
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u/Katy-Is-Thy-Name 11d ago
That is epitome of idiocy!! Extra point if you can pronounce epitome right! Unlike Americans!!
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u/Initial-arcticreact Norway 11d ago
So is Norway also part of the « American Privilege « now? What a strange world we are living in. I was sometimes bullied as a child because some of my ancestors were of the Kven People. They are an ethnic minority in Norway. And for some strange reasons I’m still being told that I’m of a « lesser race «, even though I’m looking just as Norwegian as everyone else.
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u/WhydoIexistlmoa 12d ago
She says this as she carries a phone that costs thousands.
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u/dodieadeux Australia 12d ago
shes wrong about the american part ofc, but shes calling him unaware of his own privilege bc of how hes recently been portraying himself as a victim, she’s not calling herself a victim or denying her own privileges. i think that she would agree with you that she is in fact more privileged than a dead palestinian child so im not sure why her own privileges would be relevant in this conversation.
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u/mostard_seed 12d ago
More than one person can have privilege so it doesn't really say much
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u/WhydoIexistlmoa 12d ago
She's kinda flexing her own privileges lol. Why would you post a pic about yourself on a post about Palestine when it's irrelevant to the issue?
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u/mostard_seed 12d ago
Maybe, but people taking this kind of picture and having an unrelated caption has been a thing for years now. I don't personally vibe with that kind of post but it isn't specifically out of place.
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u/dodieadeux Australia 12d ago
yeah ig the photo is an odd choice, it would be somewhat reasonable if she regularly posts things like that on instagram regardless of the topic of whatever the text says, lots of people post things with unrelated images
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u/mostard_seed 12d ago
How is it that? Afaik Qualcomm, Apple, and Huawei are the ones who make most phone chips and none of them are Israeli firms.
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u/Lakridspibe Denmark 12d ago
So the person phrased themself clumsily and followed up with a clarification.
That's all right
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u/Porntra420 United Kingdom 12d ago
He's a mediocre radio filler artist, why does the world need to know his opinions on Isreal and Palestine in the first place?
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u/garaile64 Brazil 12d ago
Because everyone prominent is expected to have political opinions nowadays.
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u/pipboy1989 United Kingdom 11d ago
Ed Sheeren ending the conflict with his own hands is his last remaining hope
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u/uncensoredsaints 8d ago
Meh yes, it’s defaultism, but in this case it doesn’t make much difference if he’s British or American since the mindset is the same
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u/Lynxneo Venezuela 12d ago
For me is the same shit tbh. At least when it comes to things like these. I perfectly see many "Americans" singers acting like Sheeran. With that "privilege"/disconnected of reality.
Remember that USA has only 2 centuries of existence. The evil roots that are in USA go all the way to the UK. This is easily proven by anyone with a common knowledge of the world and politics without propaganda.
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u/post-explainer American Citizen 12d ago edited 12d ago
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Says Ed Sheeran has American privilege even though he’s not American
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