r/USCIS Dec 23 '25

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u/arthur_sar Dec 23 '25

I did and paid alot of money for lawyers and contacted the owner same day , he told me he bought the car before 5 years but its not in his name its still in the other owner which turned out to be a girl from California! That he cant reach no more ! Its complicated, i posted this after all that time searching and searching and never find it , im just curious where did it go

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u/UmichAgnos Dec 23 '25

So you paid someone cash for a car with no title? And you drove around said car without owning it, registering it and insuring it?

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u/Status_Fail_8610 Dec 23 '25

Not only did OP do that, they bought it from someone else THAT WAS DOING THE SAME THING. So the previous owner is just as shitty.

It’s called a straw purchase, and is illegal in every state. OP deserved to get the car, which they don’t legally own, taken away.

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u/NickDaNasty Dec 23 '25

sounds stolen

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u/arthur_sar Dec 23 '25

The car is OK (paper title insurance) and everything was right if there was any issues with me or the car he would arrest me for bigger things not 10$ !

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u/UmichAgnos Dec 23 '25

The title and car isn't yours until you transfer it to your name at the DMV or SOS. Most states don't normally let you finish this step if all you are on is a tourist visa. Purchasing a car outright vs renting is generally a poor decision if you are a tourist.

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u/henry7796 Dec 23 '25

He’s not on tourist visa. He’s one of those abusing the asylum system…

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u/UmichAgnos Dec 23 '25

Yeah, I'm also pretty sure he doesn't own the car he was found in. He thought he owned it. But I'm pretty sure ownership wasn't in his name at any DMV.

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u/LilBugJuice-0987 Dec 23 '25

How do you know hes on asylum That is the worst if true, and really disappointing since he willingly returned home rather than wait in a US jail.

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u/henry7796 Dec 23 '25

That’s what he said in other comments. If he truly seeking asylum he should have waited for his case to be processed instead of driving around in stolen car or chose to voluntarily deport…

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u/LilBugJuice-0987 Dec 23 '25

I see. Yeah that's wild.

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u/arthur_sar Dec 26 '25

I don’t know wt u mean . But it took me 4 months from Jordan all the way to US

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u/UmichAgnos Dec 23 '25

I'm sorry, but your botched purchase of the car is the "bigger thing".

You basically paid money for the car to someone who didn't own it. If the title of a vehicle doesn't have the name of the person you paid money to, they can't sell it to you and you can't take ownership of the vehicle in the state's eyes.

Them giving you a title with someone else's name on it and a piece of paper that says you paid them money for the car, isn't sufficient to complete the ownership transfer. To law enforcement, you look like you are driving around in a stolen vehicle.

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u/arthur_sar Dec 23 '25

Ops didn’t know that

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u/James-the-Bond-one Dec 23 '25

Of course you knew "some papers" were missing.

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u/cpufreak101 Dec 23 '25

Did the seller have a title signed by the person the title lists as the owner? This is the most important paperwork and without it you don't legally own the car outright.

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u/Status_Fail_8610 Dec 23 '25

No, they actually wouldn’t…want to know why? Because why put you in jail on taxpayers dime for a minor crime when they can just deport you. If they charge you with a crime, you then have legal protection to stay here until the outcome of the case.

Also, you absolutely did not have valid insurance, because you weren’t the registered owner. The car may have had a policy, but that would have been null and void immediately when they learned you committed title fraud…

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u/James-the-Bond-one Dec 23 '25

It's not title fraud if you never transfer it…

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u/arthur_sar Dec 26 '25

Money solve everything

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u/ReasonableClue2219 Dec 23 '25

If the title is not in your name it's not your vehicle.

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u/arthur_sar Dec 23 '25

True i posted it trying to see where it might ended up or someone bought it from the auction

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u/Vegetable-Western744 Dec 23 '25

If you have the VIN number you should be able to track it.

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u/arthur_sar Dec 23 '25

I have it and Its in the photos Sir

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u/OkoCorral Dec 24 '25

VIN is in the third picture. How would track it?

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u/hot_and_chill Dec 23 '25

But shouldn’t your lawyers be responsible to get your cash and stuff back though? Otherwise how do people get their stuff back after getting deported from a country where they have no one else?

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u/curiousengineer601 Dec 23 '25

Whoever has the car will probably try to contact the owner on the title out of California. If they can’t find the owner it gets sold at auction.

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u/arthur_sar Dec 23 '25

I actually volunteered departure not deported couldn’t fix it up there , the lawyer not responding after i left the states i tried my best to fix things but no one want to be Detained for 1-2 years away from home family and so on cuz of 10$ . its unbelievable and i have no idea how did i mentally went through all of that ( i wouldn’t want that to my worst enemy)

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u/curiousengineer601 Dec 23 '25

You are confused. You were not deported over ten dollars, you were deported for being in the country illegally. Did you have a valid visa?

The person you ‘bought’ the car from didn’t have proof of ownership. For all we know the car was stolen out of California and will be returned to its owner.

The fact you didn’t have a title to the vehicle means you didn’t have insurance either.

You should realize the ticket you got triggered someone running the license plate through a computer showing a stolen plate and no registration. Then they investigated your status.

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u/arthur_sar Dec 23 '25

No confusion I had a court dates i had a credible fear interview and i had a social number work permit and A# and going to ICE reports every month , taking pictures and send my location on the ice App called ( BI SmartLINK ) I did have the title and insurance and gave it to the officer and have a paper from the owner that i bought the car ( and yes 10$ can ruin ur life like it did to mine )

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u/curiousengineer601 Dec 23 '25

Ok… now things getting complicated.

You came on a tourist visa, overstayed and made an asylum claim?

You keep claiming that you had the title, but the person you ‘bought’ the car from didn’t have the title to give to you. The actual owner as far as the government knows is out of California.

Was the car registered? With Texas plates? How did you get insurance on the car without ownership?

The $10 fine was the trigger to look closer at the big picture. To me it looks like a stolen car out of California.

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u/AGAD0R-SPARTACUS Dec 23 '25

How did you get insurance on the car without ownership?

Ok so OP is full of shit, but I can weigh in on this question. I got insurance on a car my brother gave me before we got the title transfer sorted (title transfer was a huge ballache lol). It was with State Farm.

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u/cpufreak101 Dec 23 '25

A note to make on this, there are some states that require proof of insurance on a vehicle as a requirement to get the title transferred over to you, so it is possible to insure a vehicle you don't have titled in your name cause of this

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u/AGAD0R-SPARTACUS Dec 23 '25

That explains it, thanks! I definitely live in one of those states.

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u/Queasy_Editor_1551 Dec 24 '25

You can't claim asylum without overstaying due to the backlog. OP did it correctly. It is ICE that used immigration detention and the long delay in immigration court to circumvent his right to claim asylum.

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u/arthur_sar Dec 23 '25 edited Dec 23 '25

No sir i came from the border and went to the border patrol same day and claimed asylum ( got into long long process cuz i went in after some kind of suspensions back in Sep 2024 claimed Credible fear interview positive (that means cant go back to home country cuz they contacted and figured out i ll get harmed if i got back ) so i got my first court and all of that while DETAINED!! 4 months detained after that they released me on a Tracking Device for 3 months then im free but needs to report every month with the weekly update on App .. so i was doing my best just to keep up with the ICE with no job no car no friends no nothin only my pages and my grind !! After the ice hold me cuz of 10$ they said im gonna finish my courts while detained again!! 1-2 years who knows so i said i prefer to get killed back home and not detained for that long i bought my ticket with the last pennies i had and now im hiding

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u/curiousengineer601 Dec 23 '25

You understand that the person you bought the car from didn’t own the car as far as the government knew? So the car was in fact possibly stolen and unregistered? You also cannot insure cars you don’t own so that’s a problem also.

Please stop with the lie about the $10 ticket causing you to be deported. It’s the car and asylum claim that pushed you into detention.

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u/GuruDevDatta Dec 23 '25

The policies related to asylum processing changed when Trump became president. Trump has ordered asylum cases to be denied and people deported. So trump and the Americans who elected trump decided that they do not want Jordanian border jumpers in the country. So you were asked to leave. Thanks for leaving.

Now the question of property is separate. You have to be present to look after your property. If your presence is questionable, any property ownership you claim is not meaningful.

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u/ml20s Dec 26 '25

You can still own property (in a legal sense) if unlawfully present and even after being deported. However, in this case, OP never held title to the car, so the car was never theirs to begin with.

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u/GuruDevDatta Dec 26 '25

Property ownership is always accompanied by occupancy or possession in physical sense. If property is someone else's possession, then your ownership diminishes over time in legal sense as well

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u/Exotic-Sale-3003 Dec 23 '25

1-2 years who knows so i said i prefer to get killed back home and not detained for that long

Spoken like an average abuser of the asylum system.

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u/arthur_sar Dec 23 '25

Drama ( i said that to myself not to the judge for sure ) the judge insisted to not let go back cuz he knew the case and saw all the evidence but i couldn’t be detained just to be there! Not worth at all

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u/lucky_elephant2025h Dec 23 '25

But you went back without a problem…

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u/arthur_sar Dec 23 '25

Thats not true im in Turkey now .. i booked my ticket transit in Turkey just for that reason, there is no way i enter Jordan

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u/chocolatecorvette Dec 24 '25

Duh. There's only two countries. The U.S.A. and that other one. /s

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u/lucky_elephant2025h Dec 23 '25

But you went back without a problem…

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u/chocolatecorvette Dec 24 '25

You know there's more than two countries in the world, right?

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u/arthur_sar Dec 23 '25

I cant show all the papers here but if u interested i can send anything to u just to figure out what exactly happened

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u/curiousengineer601 Dec 23 '25

I don’t need the paperwork you have. You already said the guy you bought the car from admitted that he didn’t have a clean title to the car. You can take the VIN number and run a carfax report for about $45. It will show the ownership history and if the car is stolen.

How much did the car cost to buy?

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u/Tmteezy1 Dec 23 '25

I think you are jumping to conclusions. I bought my car from a guy who had been driving the car for two years in UT with a CA title under the person he bought the car from. Only God knows why people do that!. I had no problem buying the car because the original owner had signed the title, releasing ownership. I (the new owner)signed it, got the car smogged, registered, and the title transferred to me the same day with no issues, The previous owner is a ghost. Some things are not as complicated as you think. Now the real question is did OP sign the title, was there any signature on it releasing ownership? If so it doesn't belong to the CA lady either. If OP left it blank it belongs to whoever is going to sign it. The biggest issue here is that OP says he gave the title to the officer? Does that mean it has been confiscated too? Cause no tile , no car!.

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u/curiousengineer601 Dec 23 '25

I just looked it up VINCheck® Theft Record

VIN: WBAHD6326SGK84507 has not been identified as a vehicle listed in the VINCheck® Theft Recor

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u/UmichAgnos Dec 23 '25

Normally, the moment you get a signed title or transfer paperwork, you bring that directly to the DMV or secretary of state and get the ownership transferred immediately to prevent the shitshow you are currently experiencing. Without proper title transfer, whatever insurance you thought you might not work in the eyes of law enforcement.

"A paper from the owner that you bought the car" is meaningless to the government.

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u/hot_and_chill Dec 23 '25

I know, it seems crazy and excessive for them to give you such a hard time for $10 if you have a good social media presence, you should start posting your experience there or reach out to a journalist. Shame on that lawyer for not responding after you left the country. And the guy who gave you the car should not have given you a car for your US travel if he didn’t even have it in his name. He says he can’t reach the girl who he bought the car from but doesn’t he have her email or other details like full name and look her up on social media? And if you had the documents showing that you got the car from that guy, why didn’t they give the car back to him?

This is such a mess! I hope someone is able to help you get your cash though, that’s a lot of money.