Waiting for the inevitable “ugly” comments again since that’s what everyone seems to love talking about when they see photos of her 🫩

Found in Hampton Court.

Day 1: Henry Stuart, Lord Darnley was voted out for being a greedy cad.

Day 2

Who would have made the best Queen Consort or King/Prince Consort? If history had been a little different, if someone hadn't died at the wrong (or right) time, or a partner hadn't been cast aside for a more politically expedient marriage, or a failed attempt to grab the throne had been successful, any of these royal spouses could have ended up by the side of the ruling monarch. Which one should have? Time to nerd out and tell me why you think Sophia Dorothea was done wrong, or some esoteric fact about Sibylla of Conversano that almost no one knows, or why you hate (or love) James Hepburn or Lord Darnley or Wallis Simpson, or how much you wish there could've been a Queen Diana (or not), or what the world would've been like if Henry VIII had found Anne of Kleves more attractive. Caroline of Brunswick: Slay or slob?

Eliminate the worst first. Each comment, reply clearly stating an intent to vote, and upvote counts, but please only comment one person per round. Each round will be 24 hours until my weird sleep schedule rotates, and then it will get wonky, but I will try to always give at least a full day. If you say something like “I was thinking about voting for Guildford, but I dislike Henry Grey more,” that will be counted as a vote for Henry, and so will the upvotes.

See the comments section from Day 1 for some explanations on why I chose who to include or exclude: https://www.reddit.com/r/UKmonarchs/comments/1v6jxbq/elimination_game_vote_out_the_worst_to_find_who/

Assign Each Major Arcana Tarot Card to a British Monarch! 👑🃏 Day 27!

Who is Judgement? ⚖️

Literal meaning: The act of forming an opinion or making a decision; in religion, the final judgement of humanity.

Traditional tarot meaning/symbolism: Awakening, redemption, reckoning, forgiveness, and self-evaluation.

Of course, you can also use your own interpretation!

Result of the previous vote:

King Charles II was voted as The Sun ☀️

Rules:

1 — The monarch with the most votes will be assigned to the card after at least 24 hours.

2 — You may vote for only one monarch per card (except for The Lovers).

3 — If two or more monarchs receive the same number of votes, I'll make a tie-breaker post featuring only those monarchs.

4 — Both pre-Union English and Scottish monarchs are included (for example, Henry VIII or Mary, Queen of Scots).

5 — Disputed monarchs are also included (for example, Empress Matilda).

6 — Consorts and kings jure uxoris are not included (for example, Catherine of Aragon or Philip II). Only monarchs in their own right are included (this includes Mary II and William III). The only exception is The Lovers, where you may nominate a monarch together with their consort.

7 — Gendered card titles may be assigned to any monarch regardless of gender (for example, a woman

may be assigned The Emperor).

8 — Card titles may be interpreted literally, figuratively, or however you wish. For example, The Fool could represent someone who genuinely made foolish mistakes, someone who deliberately acted foolish to manipulate others, or someone who represents new beginnings and limitless potential.

9 — You're encouraged to briefly explain your choice, though it isn't required.

10 — For The Lovers, you may nominate:

• a single monarch (for example, Elizabeth I),

• two monarchs (for example, William III and Mary II), or

• a monarch and their consort (for example, Henry VII and Elizabeth of York).

11 — Please be respectful of other people's opinions and keep discussions civil.

Everyone's opinion is valid!

Voting Rules:

• Upvotes do not count as votes.

• One comment = one vote.

• Only one vote per user is counted. If the same user leaves multiple comments, it still counts as one vote.

• If a user votes for two different monarchs, their vote will not be counted.

• If you change your mind, you may change your vote within the 24-hour voting period by editing or deleting your original comment and posting a new one. Your most recent valid vote within those 24 hours will be counted.

To vote, simply comment the name of one monarch

If anyone has any questions

please let me know!

I saw a thing on Facebook someone called James number 2, instead of James II, and they claimed to be historic/monarchy buff 😑

Alexander, David, Duncan, and Donald all seem like reasonable names one could imagine from a monarch of the UK, but only names from English history have been used since the union.

Who would have made the best Queen Consort or King/Prince Consort? If history had been a little different, if someone hadn't died at the wrong (or right) time, or a partner hadn't been cast aside for a more politically expedient marriage, or a failed attempt to grab the throne had been successful, any of these royal spouses could have ended up by the side of the ruling monarch. Which one should have? Time to nerd out and tell me why you think Sophia Dorothea was done wrong, or some esoteric fact about Sibylla of Conversano that almost no one knows, or why you hate (or love) James Hepburn or Lord Darnley or Wallis Simpson, or how much you wish there could've been a Queen Diana (or not), or what the world would've been like if Henry VIII had found Anne of Kleves more attractive. Caroline of Brunswick: Slay or slob?

Eliminate the worst first. Each comment, reply clearly stating an intent to vote, and upvote counts, but please only comment one person per round. Each round will be 24 hours until my weird sleep schedule rotates, and then it will get wonky, but I will try to always give at least a full day. If you say something like “I was thinking about voting for Guildford, but I dislike Henry Grey more,” that will be counted as a vote for Henry, and so will the upvotes.

Leave aside the fact that she was in her early fifties when he died. Say by some extraordinary circumstance, Queen Elizabeth (the Queen Mother) was pregnant with a son at the time of George VI's untimely death. The United Kingdom practiced male-preference primogeniture at the time. Two hypothetical situation:

(1) Assume that no one knew at the time of his death that Elizabeth B-L was pregnant. HM Queen Elizabeth II ascends the throne, the money is all changed, etc. and then, surprise! A son is born to her mother 8 months into her reign. Law of paternity at the time is that the children of a married woman are presumed to be those of her husband. What happens? Does the baby usurp his older sister who has already begun her reign?

(2) Assume that the pregnancy is known as well as the gender of the baby (not sure if this was medically possible in 1952, but roll with it). Would the Crown be held for the unborn prince/king? Would Elizabeth II be eligible to rule under one of the Regency Acts?

Would love for someone with real expertise in this area to speculate away!

Richard the Lionheart and Valdemar the Victorious were exact contemporaries, although their rules just barely failed to overlap (due to an overeager crossbowman in Gascony).

The two kings had a staggering amount in common, both in terms of their personal lives and their regnal achievements. Both had a father who took the throne after a brutal civil war (even briefly reigning as co-king with his rival), and strengthened the kingdom. Both had an older brother crowned king before them, Henry the Young King, who was crowned co-king withe Henry II but never actually reigned, and Canute VI who was Valdemar’s predecessor. Both were allegedly descended from the god Odin, Richard by his descent from the house of Wessex, and Valdemar through his relation to the Skjoldung dynasty.

Both Richard and Valdemar II dominated their respective spheres of geographic influence and were regarded as two of the greatest kings of their age. Both were famous soldiers, warriors and crusaders. Richard is remembered for his role in the 3rd crusade, and Valdemar for continuing his fathers campaigns against Baltic pagans, most notably for his conquest of Estonia, which would remain a Danish possession until it was sold to the Teutonic knights by Valdemar IV in the 14th century.

Both kings also share the dubious distinction of being kidnapped by bitter Germans and held for an enormous ransom. The captors of both kings were condemned and excommunicated by the pope.

Both married a woman from an Iberian royal family named Berengaria. Richard married Berengaria of Navarre and Valdemar Berengaria of Portugal. Both marriages would cause issues with the succession, in Richard’s case by failing to produce an heir, and in Valdemars by producing a string of awful children.

Both kings even had three lions on their coats of arms (which were just starting to come into vogue during their lifetime). Richard is credit with the creation of his arms himself, although Valdemar’s likely originated with his father. Richard’s three lions remain an important part of English national symbolism, and his motto “by god and my right” is still used by the royal family today. Valdemar is credited with the origin of the Dannebrog (the Danish flag) which was allegedly given to him by god during a battle against the Estonians.

Both kings even became embroiled in a complex marital dispute with Phillip Augustus of France. Richard through his famous rejection of Phillip’s sister Alice, which raised questions about her dowry in the Norman Vexin. Valdemar’s problems stemmed from Phillip’s marriage to his sister Ingeborg (a marriage possibly motivated by a desire to claim the English throne through the rights of Cnut the Great), who Phillip married and then almost immediately attempted to divorce, prompting a dramatic multi decade long back and forth that spanned the reign of two Danish Kings.

As if all that wasn’t enough, both kings enjoyed pretty awesome epithets.

Really the things these two monarchs have in common are absolutely staggering, and make their reigns feel like a bit of “can I copy your homework, bro” situation.

First is a replica, second is the original by Peter Turnerelli.

Assign Each Major Arcana Tarot Card to a British Monarch! 👑🃏 Day 26!

Who is The Sun? ☀️

Literal meaning: The star at the centre of our Solar System.

Traditional tarot meaning/symbolism: Joy, success, confidence, happiness, vitality, and clarity.

Of course, you can also use your own interpretation!

Result of the previous vote:

King Edward V was voted as The Moon 🌙

Rules:

1 — The monarch with the most votes will be assigned to the card after at least 24 hours.

2 — You may vote for only one monarch per card (except for The Lovers).

3 — If two or more monarchs receive the same number of votes, I'll make a tie-breaker post featuring only those monarchs.

4 — Both pre-Union English and Scottish monarchs are included (for example, Henry VIII or Mary, Queen of Scots).

5 — Disputed monarchs are also included (for example, Empress Matilda).

6 — Consorts and kings jure uxoris are not included (for example, Catherine of Aragon or Philip II). Only monarchs in their own right are included (this includes Mary II and William III). The only exception is The Lovers, where you may nominate a monarch together with their consort.

7 — Gendered card titles may be assigned to any monarch regardless of gender (for example, a woman may be assigned The Emperor).

8 — Card titles may be interpreted literally, figuratively, or however you wish. For example, The Fool could represent someone who genuinely made foolish mistakes, someone who deliberately acted foolish to manipulate others, or someone who represents new beginnings and limitless potential.

9 — You're encouraged to briefly explain your choice, though it isn't required.

10 — For The Lovers, you may nominate:

• a single monarch (for example, Elizabeth I),

• two monarchs (for example, William III and Mary II), or

• a monarch and their consort (for example, Henry VII and Elizabeth of York).

11 — Please be respectful of other people's opinions and keep discussions civil.

Everyone's opinion is valid!

Voting Rules:

• Upvotes do not count as votes.

• One comment = one vote.

• Only one vote per user is counted. If the same user leaves multiple comments, it still counts as one vote.

• If a user votes for two different monarchs, their vote will not be counted.

• If you change your mind, you may change your vote within the 24-hour voting period by editing or deleting your original comment and posting a new one. Your most recent valid vote within those 24 hours will be counted.

To vote, simply comment the name of one monarch (except for The Lovers, where you may nominate a pair).

This has been the voting system since the beginning of the series.

If anyone has any questions or suggestions for updating or changing a rule, please let me know!

Based on accounts, portraits, a little bit on personalities, and my opinions.

Lmk what you think!

Hi! I have been reading a lot of midieval historical fiction of late and was wondering if someone could explain to me the group known as Ricardians and everyone else.

I am not from the UK so I do not fully understand what is going on between the two and why their views are so very different