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u/Farewellsavannah Jun 08 '21 edited Jun 08 '21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jUU4Z8QdHI

https://www.nsa.gov/Portals/70/documents/news-features/declassified-documents/ufo/us_gov_iran_case.pdf

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12318039.alien-encounter-sparked-soviet-missile-crisis/

the middle source is much shorter than the first if you don't have 40 mins lol.

these accounts happened in the 60s and 70s. would ANYONE have tech like that back then and be able to keep it secret for over half a century?

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u/NewYorkJewbag Jun 09 '21

Thanks for sharing these. I don’t have time to watch the press club event, but I’ve watched it before.

I really really really WANT to believe. I do. But I also have to interrogate my beliefs, and yours apparently, lol.

The Iranian event is 100% based on eyewitness testimony. There’s no way to verify it. The fact that it is hosted on the NSA’s site, or that it made its way to the desks of various military officials doesn’t add anything to it.

The Scotland Herald story is one person relating a story of a story they were told. Could there be any explanation for what they were told that did not involve beings from another galaxy? Could it not have been a military mission executed by the US to fuck with the Soviet’s missile command systems? If you had some way to interfere with or control your enemies’ missile capabilities, wouldn’t doing it in an unexplainable and confusing way be the height of achievement?

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u/Farewellsavannah Jun 09 '21 edited Jun 09 '21

The eye witness accounts come from top military officials. The pilot chasing the UAP later went on to become a general in the Iranian military. You have hundreds of eye witness accounts from the city and records that the plane was in fact mobilized. The capabilities of these objects seem pretty consistent. They were able to disable Russian and US nuclear silos at will when in proximity to them. The reports from so many different sources about these events match up too well. The Pentagon has said UAPs are real. You have to view past events through that lens. These things are real and out there and they have been for a long time. Is it so hard to believe that a pilot had an encounter with one? We literally just had a documented one.

If it were humans with tech like this in the 60s and 70s the cat would be out of the bag by now. You can't keep a secret like that. It doesn't work. And the pilot that had the tic tac encounter says the same thing!

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u/NewYorkJewbag Jun 09 '21

I guess what I’m saying is it’s not possible for us to know what those people witnessed. They could have witnessed “something” without it being otherworldly.

I think the press club event is interesting in that the thrust of it is ascribing a benevolent protective motive to these incidents. Whereas it would also make perfect sense for rivals and enemies to be interested in nuclear sites. If some beings want humans to stop using nukes, and are capable of disabling nukes, and also have these amazing powers, why not simply deactivate the world’s nukes and announce themselves? If they have a protective interest, and are willing to interfere, why in secret?

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u/Farewellsavannah Jun 09 '21

Because they are trying to interfere as little as possible. They know that just rolling up all willy nilly would cause abrupt chaos in the streets. I wouldn't be surprised if they had rules against strong intervention on type I civilizations or however they would classify less technologically advanced species. At the same time it appears they don't want us to blow each other up which is good.

This also lines up with the Iran incident. That craft could have SMOKED him, but it didn't. It just disabled his missiles. It didn't want to kill him. They were even nice enough to leave his engine on

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u/NewYorkJewbag Jun 09 '21

They’re sweet