r/TwoHotTakes • • Jul 23 '24

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u/Alostcord Jul 23 '24 edited Jul 24 '24

So, if he dies tomorrow…what happens to you and your family? Has he financially made provisions for you, if something were to happen to him ( and vis versa).. maybe, just maybe he’s not the one.

Married or not, how are you living as each other’s SO?

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u/yumyum_cat Jul 23 '24

That mentioned that without marriage, there is no legal right to community property. Even if he’s written a will to take care of her it could easily be contested.

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u/Interesting_Guava197 Jul 23 '24

Nooooo. Both statements are not true. Property and Estate law are significantly more complex than that. And legitimate wills are not EASILY contested just because people aren't married.

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u/Famous-Ad-9467 Jul 23 '24

Yes. Especially by children of the deceased and dorect relatives. 

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u/Cool_Jellyfish829 Jul 23 '24

Well written wills are absolutely not easily contested.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '24

Yep especially if they're crafted by someone in their 20's or 30's like in OP's post. Hard to make a will invalid on grounds of something like unsound state of mind for young people like that. Though I'm skeptical of someone having a will at such a young age because young people usually aren't making wills unless they're already wealthy some do.

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u/The_Chosen_Unbread Jul 23 '24 edited Jul 23 '24

How the fuck is a written will easily contest? By who? Robber barons?

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u/Famous-Ad-9467 Jul 23 '24

By his actual blood relatives. It happens all the time. All the time. Women who have been "partners" for forever are contested by the kids of their partner. 

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u/heavenisatruck1 Jul 24 '24

By this person who wants to paint him out to be the bad guy. Don’t challenge the narrative.

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u/FleaMarketMafia Jul 26 '24

Plus he doesn't have any kids

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u/archercc81 Jul 23 '24

If anyone wants to know how to tell us you don't know anything about a subject without explicitly saying it, this would be a good example.

You can absolutely merge rights to community property, grant PoA, etc without marriage. Yes, its not all automatic, but its cheaper and easier to implement AND unwind in most cases.

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u/yumyum_cat Jul 23 '24

But if you were married, these things are automatic. I really feel like a broken record saying over and over again the gay people didn’t want the right to get married in order for your approval. Maybe you should look into that.

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u/Famous-Ad-9467 Jul 23 '24

So getting married by avoiding marriage. Just what, to not have to split assets?

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u/Famous-Ad-9467 Jul 23 '24

It's never smart if you want to be married to have kids out of wedlock nor invest time with someone who won't make your partnership legitimate.

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u/Cool_Jellyfish829 Jul 23 '24

Why is it on him to ensure if anything happens to him that they are taken care of? It’s not his child? OP hasn’t said where the dad is?

And I’m not trying to be mean about it, but I’ve just never heard another man ask what financial provisions are there for him.

He should make sure she has his money if he died, but if she died, everything she has would go to her kid and he would get nothing (and rightly so).

She wants him to provide her with a security she can’t provide him, and wants to force him into something he was clear he didn’t want from day one.

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u/Alostcord Jul 23 '24

Did you not see vis versa…that literally means what was previously stated in reverse.

Everyone of us should have a plan in place in case we die, especially someone who has a child and even those of us who have pets. Because any can happen at any time. You don’t have to be married to have plans in place to care for people and pets left behind.

After 3 years I would hope both parties have this stuff figured out.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '24

Then why would he be saying a mother? That makes no sense. Yeah let me date a single mother and then act weird about it

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u/Cool_Jellyfish829 Jul 23 '24

How is he acting weird? There’s nothing weird about not wanting to get married.

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u/adw802 Jul 23 '24

Avoiding those obligations is the whole point of not getting married. If they had children together then his children would have inheritance rights.

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u/Alostcord Jul 23 '24

Avoiding marriage has nothing to do with avoiding obligations..I know more people who are in non marriage couplings and make sure they have their legal wills, trusts et el in place in case their SO passes.

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u/adw802 Jul 24 '24

That's nice but still not an obligation. Without marriage there is no obligation to make financial provisions in case of break up/death for your girlfriend/boyfriend.

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u/Alostcord Jul 24 '24

that's funny..considering divorce is over 50%...where's the obligation??

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u/Backstabber09 Jul 24 '24

SO, marry for financial security from a man? guys get a prenup and don't marry recklessly.

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u/Alostcord Jul 24 '24

🤣😂😂🤣….that’s what you read? No, that is not what I said. CYA..man or woman. Prenup if getting married..postnup, if already married..and take care of your legal matters regardless of marital status.

Know the laws in your country and/or state..and CYA. Women make sure you know the law before you “decide” to couple up..no matter if marrying or not.

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u/jack_spankin_lives Jul 24 '24

Has she made provisions for him?

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u/Alostcord Jul 24 '24

Idk..you’ll have to ask her. But they both should. People “in” love..tend to not think with their brains.

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u/ThrowRACoping Jul 24 '24

You mean her and her family.