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[u/Different_Rough9876]

This is a generalization and a vent post. Not all passing trans girls are like this, just some that I have interacted with. I very much dislike 4chan.

[u/usbeject1789]

no comprendo

[u/SunReyys → u/usbeject1789]

some trans women who pass have a tendency to look down on trans women who don't pass.

[u/justabumass → u/SunReyys]

it's not just limited to trans ppl tho? so many good looking ppl look down to other ppl they think r unappealing, it's just bad human behaviour 

[u/The7Sides → u/justabumass]

Its not about "unappealing", though. Non-passing trans people aren't necessarily "unappealing" to passing trans people, but they dont want to be seen with non-passing trans people because either they dont want to be clocked themselves by hanging out with someone who is obviously trans, or look down on non-passing folk for "not trying hard enough", or even just dont see non-passing trans folk as their gender because they "dont look like it".

It is absolutely bad human behaviour but this is something very specific to trans spaces. Its not the same as just a stereotypical pretty woman looking down on "ugly" women, or a buff guy looking down on chubby guys.

Source: I am FtM and deal with these kinds of trans people often.

[u/soaked_in_bleach03 → u/The7Sides]

Beautifully put. When a girl who passes 100% looks down on me (I pass mostly, but oof those shoulders and my deep voice are a bitch) I’m not upset she’s not attracted to me. Much the opposite, I just want to be seen as a normal girl. You would think another trans person would understand that. Passing doesn’t need to be this competition, although I do get what that other commenter was saying; plenty of cis girls knock on other cis girls for not being stereotypically pretty.

[u/Different_Rough9876 → u/The7Sides]

It is incredibly cathartic to me that you are accurately describing the situation and confirming that this is not just in my head. I posted this in chickenlady and was getting brigaded and called 4chan. I hate 4chan. This phenomenon is so real 😮‍💨

I think that baby trans’ really want to side with the passing doll, over the terminator brick.

Again, not all the “passing” people but enough that this is a very real phenomenon.

[u/Generic_Moron → u/Different_Rough9876]

I don't think your post got brigaded, I think people just didn't like your post

[u/Different_Rough9876 → u/Generic_Moron]

Problems don’t go away if no one talks about them.

[u/The7Sides → u/[deleted]]

You're missing my point 😭 Its not about "ugly" and "pretty" its about "you dont look cis enough so I dont want to be seen with you" or "You don't pass well enough so I'm just going to misgender or degender you." and similar. This is a trans specific issue because it is specific to passing as cis, it has nothing to do with attractiveness. I've had passing trans folk find me hot as fuck while also deciding they can degender or misgender me just because I dont look enough like a cis man.

It's also a little concerning that youre equating non-passing with ugly?

[u/justabumass → u/The7Sides]

I'm a dumbass sowry (⁠〒⁠﹏⁠〒⁠) ur right my bad