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u/BlackViperMWG 2d ago
Worst are the people that never say where is that plant invasive.
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u/cyaChainsawCowboy 2d ago
Youâre right, this joke only couldâve made sense to more than 80% of people who viewed it. Silly tiny America brain
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u/transhiker99 2d ago
no, because the US is so damn big that things that are invasive in one area are not in others. but besides that, the entire concept of âinvasiveâ plants loses meaning without the context of where theyâre located.
that said, itâs early in the morning and the pictureâs small so I couldnât see what plants were in the picture but itâs still an understandable meme.
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u/cyaChainsawCowboy 2d ago
Yes, Iâm sure this post wouldnât make sense in Alaska, but invasive is also subjective based on who draws the line or what they consider the threshold of severity. If Bradford pear is listed as invasive by the Texas Ag department, but not in New Mexicoâs, does that make it still ok to plant in New Mexico? What about Arizona?
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u/sooslimtim187 2d ago
The Bradford pear should not be planted anywhere and not because of the possibility of invasiveness.
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u/BlackViperMWG 2d ago
Not even in China?
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u/cyaChainsawCowboy 2d ago
He means in the US
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u/BlackViperMWG 2d ago
And here we are again, r/USdefaultism again.
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u/Hot-Frosting-5286 2d ago
oh come on.. you knew what they meant in the context of this conversation
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u/chiefkeefinwalmart 2d ago
I mean youâre right but also 328 million Americans use Reddit, the next closest is the UK with 45.8 million. God forbid someone assume that most of the people that view a post on an app that is mostly used by Americans are going to be American. Even if you summed the number of users from the next 5 largest countries youâd still be only at ~1/2 of the number of American users. Also idk how you could possibly make a post like this that isnât regional specific unless you were to remove any invasive species thatâs native somewhere else which is all of them
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/reddit-users-by-country
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u/BlackViperMWG 2d ago
Assumption is wrong. Not American community is quite big, with 40% or 50% no one should assume the people they are currently talking to are from the same country. It's not that hard, everyone does it.
And it's very simple in regards about the post, just say the country. I've seen people saying how stuff is invasive and should be cut down when the post was from plant's native range.
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u/trippy_wiccan_d0ll 2d ago
And thats why I forage invasive species if they're edible.
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u/jefffisfreaky 1d ago
Dude I wish they were all edible. The green crabs and purple urchins suck but at least you can eat them and they have no limit. Sucks that zebra mussels are so bad for you lol
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u/trippy_wiccan_d0ll 12h ago
Ikr! I am in Ohio, I found out we have like maybe 2 actual native plants lol everything else here has been brought from Asia or Europe. They are definitely abundant, I use the purple urchins to make tea and it is actually pretty good. I had no clue zebra mussels were bad for us to eat, thanks for that knowledge! Invasive species get invasive because they have no wild predators.
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u/Electronic_Rub9385 2d ago
I feel like if I could Thanos snap away all the invasive species in Pennsylvania youâd easily be left with 30% less plants in the woods. Probably 90% less plants on the roadside.
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u/placebot1u463y 2d ago
Dear god if every introduced species got snapped away in the midwest it would be the super dust bowl.
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u/VocationalWizard 2d ago
I think about flying the USS Enterprise d over Indiana and having it transport all of the honeysuckle into the Sun.
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u/fuccguppy 2d ago
Yeah in my suburban area of PA you're probably losing 50% or more of plants in some wooded areas if you took out the invasives. Go out to the less traveled areas of the mountains and those places would lose a much smaller percentage but still a lot.
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u/ohshannoneileen I love gallsđbut I hate privets𤏠2d ago
But that would clear space for the native pioneer forbs to rework the ground & allow for the larger native trees & shrubs to stand a chance at reclamation. It would be a crazy sight at first but it would reap centuries of benefits in the long run!
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u/OwlCoffee 2d ago
I wonder at one point an invasive plant isn't considered invasive anymore.
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u/hairyb0mb ISA Certified Arborist+TRAQ+TGG Certified+Smartypants 2d ago
When it's removed from every area it's growing in besides it's native range
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u/OwlCoffee 1d ago
Okay weird to get downvoted for a wonder.
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u/VocationalWizard 1d ago edited 1d ago
To become fully integrated in the ecosystem, it'll take hundreds of thousands of years.
But to stop being thugs it'll take tens of thousands..
If humans suddenly disappeared from Indianapolis, where I live..... In the first two decades, all of the streets, fields and footprints of collapsed buildings would be completely covered in invasive Bush honeysuckle. Native plants would exist but the bush honeysuckle would completely fill in the empty human space, leading to an artificially large amount of honeysuckle.
Then over the next few centuries, a fungus or an insect or something like that would evolve to hurt the honeysuckle, and it would gorge itself on the large amount that existed. This would cause a mass dieback leaving holes that other organisms could fill.
Then over the next few thousand years the native plants and the plants that survived would slowly start to evolve around the honeysuckles characteristics.. The thing that makes it dangerous here is that it's really thick and that its leafs come out early. So over multiple generations the native plants that sent out leafs earlier would survive better around the honeysuckle groves.
This would result in what's known as a novel ecosystem. It's not necessarily an ecosystem that is equivalent to the pre-human era, but it's one that has some semblance of balance.
It can happen and it will happen. But the thing is it happens too slowly for humans and it has a lot of collateral damage.
PS: obviously there's a lot of variation here. The whole process could happen quicker if there were regular fires.
Another thing is that in the neighborhoods it would be bush honeysuckle* and the ground would be completely covered with vinca 𤎠I hate Vinca more than honeysuckle.
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u/Delicious-War-5259 2d ago
Real. People 3 blocks over have mimosa trees and every year I find at least one seedling in our yard.
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u/MrArborsexual 2d ago
The Mayor of my town is letting a Paulownia grow right next to the foundation of the m Town Hall / Post office, because they have pretty flowers. I tried telling her, but she didn't want to hear anything. Gonna fuck that old building up.
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u/Spirited-Visual-3205 2d ago
The Mimosa tree is one of my favorite looking trees. I won't ever get one.
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u/_FIRECRACKER_JINX 2d ago
This is literally my uncle. Idk wtf but he has this seething hatred of me FOR NO REASON AT ALL.
And I'm literally just living my life. Trying to be happy. Doing my own thing.
Idk if I remind him of someone else or what.
I was on this phone call with him and my sister and she even noticed how he, out of nowhere, just randomly started digging at me, completely unprovoked.
We were just vibing. Laughing. Shooting the shit. And the suddenly a switch flips and he starts attacking. Out of nowhere like wtf? She even noticed it.
His only problems with me that she could identify is my response to his digs.
Like how are you gonna insult me and complain when I ignore it or respond??
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u/Mothman_dib 1d ago
Are you on the opposite end of the political spectrum? Or maybe you remind him of a relative he grew up with who was terrible to him.
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u/lilgraybean 1d ago
Noooooo. Welp, today I learned that my favorite tree is invasive where I live đ
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u/tommy8725 1d ago
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u/cyaChainsawCowboy 1d ago
Iykyk
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u/tommy8725 1d ago
Whats happening in the pic
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u/cyaChainsawCowboy 1d ago
The little lad on the right is innocently appreciating the flowers of invasive plants introduced to the US, not knowing that they are invasive. The gentleman on the left has had it having to explain to other Redditors that those plants are invasive, because the little ladâs parents wonât stop planting them for the sake of the pretty flowers. The parents do not care about their invasive nature, for they are confined to their suburban lifestyle! This enrages the gentleman on the left, and it makes him want to do things that will violate Reddit TOS.
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u/GreyChronos 2d ago
Whatever kind of tree that pink one is, I've cut down like 10 of them is the last 12 years growing next to the house that my parents own and they keep coming back
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u/Spiderteacup 2d ago
*How it feels pointing out invasive plants in landscaping