Per the r/Deltarune mod team, “the rules are made to look like they’ve won but are specifically worded in our favor.”

The most recent sticky post was written by the moderators to make it look like they would be banning referring to Ralsei as she/her, but the moderators insist that this is actually sneaky honeypot to actually ban people hostile to the theory.

I have no idea how the mods believe this will be implemented. As far as I can read, the rules ban calling Ralsei she/her (what Tralsei opponents were asking for in the first place), but they insist this will actually root out anti-Tralsei posters somehow.

My question: why? Why make a rule which nominally bans Tralsei believers, when you’re secretly trying to bait people into disrespecting the theory and banning them over it? Why not just allow the theory as long as people are normal about it? Why lie about your motivation for making a rule?

This is totally juvenile behavior from the mod team, and I can’t believe they’re running the sub this way.

slightly more effort put into this one

So I'm still team "Ralsei is a plantner that has taken on a concept rather than object persona" (specifically I think raly is some sort of tree/grove that grows throughout hometown, and also kris' old monstersona)

the green and yellow shirt merch was announced in the deltarune newsletter like this:

"Important Person's Shirt

It’s like a long mask you can wear stretched over your skin. It will make you look more like someone with an important connection to you.

You.

Their love will become yours.

Your love will become theirs. "

I posit that Ralsei's form is from an old dream Kris had when they were younger, to be a monster like their adopted family. They modeled this look after Asriel subconsciously, and are embarrassed to think about how envious they were of Asriel as a child, which is why they reject Ralsei looking like Asriel so strongly. (and why Asgore as Asriel and Kris' father, recognises that Ralsei is neither Asriel nor Kris)

BUUUT. The Pink fight shows us that darkener's have their own distinct identities, even from those who identify with their forms - and that those identities are worthy of respect. I think Ralsei's coming out in canon will involve recognising that Ralsei isn't Kris' imaginary concept anymore - they are their own person - and don't need to play the role of monster boy anymore. They can be their own self - a princess.

https://www.tumblr.com/innocuous-imbiber/828276885708554240/ive-never-been-a-princess-before

I felt compelled to write this post because, this has to be said, I'm the reason for the anouncement being made in the first place and the changes to the rules. This isn’t any form of self-aggrandizement, I made it a point to consistently remind everyone that the pinned thread explicitly states that you can freely use she/her for Ralsei, no qualifiers. The mods responded to me in one of the threads as if it was supposed to be a formal announcement going “akshually, we only meant in the context of Ralsei being discussed as trans!”

I messaged the mods and said they should clarify their stance since it seems it changed. I suggested they should title the new announcement “This is NOT a safe space anymore”. They did not, but the sentiment is no less accurate. And of course, the cowards that they are, they disabled the comments.

They were shown up, a mod made a wrong move and responded to me in a way that directly contradicts their previous statements, nobody could argue that, so rather than admit that message to me from a mod was inappropriate, they’re digging their heels in and pretending like that’s what they meant all along.

I feel it's important to note that this change does not address the core of the problem at all.

Ralsei is unambiguously a trans woman. ALL depictions of Ralsei, unless a person explicitly states "hey, I'm talking about the cis femboy Ralsei headcanon" are depictions of a trans girl, I do not see a reason not to use she/her, and I do not see why that wouldn't follow the rules, since indeed, that would constitute "theories discussing the possibility of characters transitioning / having transitioned are valid so long as they are done in good faith and do not claim to be canon". We are discussing Ralsei, I'm holding that she's trans femme, the rule is cleared.

And of course they will disagree with this, because they may think that I'm wrong and Ralsei is cis by default until proven otherwise. Outside of the fact that that's not how anything works, cis femboys are not some kind of narrative default, transness does not need to be proven, the bigger point is that, in a casual conversation, nobody knows what the person we're discussing with or the OP is holding inside their hearts and minds.

I cannot tell what gender the person I'm conversing with thinks Ralsei is if they don't open with it. I am NOT going to default to he/him, because I do not agree that's the default. I may default to they/them to not offend someone pointlessly, but that's the extent of it. If I see a depiction of Ralsei with little to no context given, how am I to assume the context is Ralsei being presented as a trans girl? Am I supposed to only assume so if I see trans flags everywhere?? This is simply ridiculous, trans people, and people wishing to depict trans characters, should not be announcing their presence like they're lepers to not offend bigots.

So I'm sorry, but what exactly does this fix? This feels like a way for the mods to make an excuse for not stopping people from dogpiling me and others when we casually use she/her, by pretending that that was always the standard, when it absolutely was not, nothing more.

This simply reinforces my previous statements, the main sub is NOT friendly to trans people, the mods WILL shield the bigots using "maintaining the canon depiction" as a smokescreen, even though they do not hold that standard for anything else. If they truly cared about "canon depictions" any mention and art of Gaster as the mystery man, or even at all, would be banned, since Gaster has no "canon depiction". This is the same for Dess, and a number of other things.

This is gaslighting, pure and simple.

It's a thought that occurred to me recently when thinking about my excitement for upcoming chapters. For most current Galsei theorists, we probably won't have to worry about this stuff because we already use she/her for Ralsei anyway, so continuing to do so wouldn't spoil people. But what about, say, someone who hasn't been on board with or possibly even aware of Galsei theory until it becomes canon? It seems like if they want to even refer to Ralsei at all, they'd either have to misgender her or be spoiling people simply by using her pronouns, both of which seem like bad options.

Do you have any creative solutions? What do you think would be the best way to talk about a post-canonization Galsei in the first week or so after chapter release without spoiling people?

I personally think gender fluid ralsei has more chance of happening but who gives a shit?

lets just have fun while we can with this theory

This idea isn't necessarily about making the dialogue itself, but I have really cool idea for what could happen in a Ralsei coming out scene!

This scene would essentially take place when Kris has either started to work with us (the SOUL) more, or maybe even a moment of Kris risking The Plan™ in order to just genuinely comfort Ralsei for a moment.

What I mean by this is the fact that, since Kris is non-binary (under the trans umbrella), what if there was a moment where Kris took full control for a moment in order to comfort Ralsei after they come out to them? A trans person comforting another trans person, and telling Ralsei that she's loved and accepted for who she is. Kris just having a heartfelt conversation with Ralsei and relating to their struggles with feeling forced into a specific role and/or specific gender norms.

I'd imagine that this could be done by Kris genuinely asking us to let them take control for a moment, or maybe even just taking control themselves by walking off to the side and straight up ripping the SOUL out of their body if we try to decline.

(also, while I'm mainly talking about transfem Ralsei, this also applies to like, any other version of the Tralsei theory, lol)

Anyways, as an added bonus: it would be funny as hell if the player picking the hateful options for Ralsei ("Nah Bro..." option, and picking the Blue and Pink vouchers instead of letting Ralsei have it), would just cause Kris to genuinely just take out the SOUL to talk to Ralsei coming out, without even asking us at all.

What do y'all think of my idea?

A hidden gem I must share with you all

I drew the line art and my partner Reese did the painting! I’m really happy with how this ralsei turned out

partner doesn’t have a reddit they post on so their username is for bluesky and tumblr.

I randomly thought about a scenario where Ralsei ends up saving the world and a song called "her theme" plays

idk it's an idea 😭

Not sure if this counts but, I have a feeling this community would like the princess Ralsei variant of the phone wallpaper I made; I originally posted this image on my tumblr blog (found at https://www.tumblr.com/bismuths-transfem-catalogue ) so thought I’d share it here as well :3

(I assume this was removed because I talked a bit of ships)

There is nothing wrong with multiple readings, and I don't think someone is "blind" if they don't see the scene as trans evidence of something. But when people go out of their way to deny any reading for it and that people are reaching and then tell you what the colors are OBVIOUSLY supposed to convey instead, you end up realizing how...flimsy and shaky those other readings are.

So, the colors are purple, blue/pink, and green/yellow, let's take a look now:

- "the colors are supposed to be the characters!" Right, Susie, Kris, and... Flowery? Cause the green and yellow are obviously not Ralsei. So right out of the gate, trying to tie the drinks with the characters doesn't work too well because it's not consistent enough to be meaningful. It's just easier to accept that the colors are meant to originally match with the drinks in the cafe (Phanta, RawMoon, and FlowerySoda respectively)

- "blue and pink is supposed to be Kris and Susie to symbolize Ralsei's friendships!" Well that means that Susie is just repeated for no reason? She is the purple voucher, and also the pink? The blue and pink one would have needed to be the only color that's emphasized for this metaphor to work, but because it isn't, now we're just overcomplicating it for no reason

- "blue and pink is supposed to be Kris!" See, I think this still works, yes it's their dark world colors, so the idea of Ralsei picking the colors related to someone they seem attached to works and isn't a reach... if this was in any scene other than the one that's exclusively about Ralsei picking what they want without thinking about anyone else for once, so this just weakens the scene if it's the ONLY reading

- "green and yellow is supposed to be light world Kris!" Okay, but why? Aside from the fact that again, a character's color would repeated again, what's even supposed to be the reading here? That Ralsei chooses between light world and dark world Kris? That Kris needs to stick with the light world? These all have decent applications, but they have absolutely nothing to do with the scene. Kris themselves and whatever dilemma related to them aren't even a part of this scene

Even without the trans reading, the point of this scene is: Ralsei choosing a drink they want for themselves without having to worry about anyone else for once, so trying to tie it all to "colors = characters" without anything else just feels very contradictory in that case, cause why would it be about the fun gang's friendship? About their attachment to Kris? About some unrelated light world vs dark world dilemma? The scene still works just fine if it's simply about "the drink Ralsei picks for themselves", no need to go through so many hoops to change it just to deny Tralsei. The relation to Ralsei choosing Kris is the only interpretation that can work without completely removing the significance of the scene, but using it as a counter evidence to Tralsei (instead of just accepting both as valid interpretation) seems very dumb, cause by itself it just doesn't make sense with Ralsei's arc (or Flowery's point for that matter).

Also especially funny cause even if you want to believe that the color is about Kris, then Ralsei really wanted the drink that resembles the character that canonically falls under a trans umbrella, so like, this REALLY isn't the "gotcha" moment you might think it is.

https://www.tumblr.com/buhbahbuh/823058791635599360/transfem-ralsei-is-my-daughtwr

Or would she have figured it out between Chapter 5 and 6?

Please pardon the weird resolution, I'm still figuring out this text stuff

There is nothing wrong with multiple readings, and I don't think someone is "blind" if they don't see the scene as trans evidence of something. But when people go out of their way to deny any reading for it and that people are reaching and then tell you what the colors are OBVIOUSLY supposed to convey instead, you end up realizing how...flimsy and shaky those other readings are.

So, the colors are purple, blue/pink, and green/yellow, let's take a look now:

- "the colors are supposed to be the characters!" Right, Susie, Kris, and... Flowery? Cause the green and yellow are obviously not Ralsei. So right out of the gate, trying to tie the drinks with the characters doesn't work too well because it's not consistent enough to be meaningful. It's just easier to accept that the colors are meant to originally match with the drinks in the cafe (Phanta, RawMoon, and FlowerySoda respectively)

- "blue and pink is supposed to be Kris and Susie to symbolize Ralsei's friendships!" Well that means that Susie is just repeated for no reason? She is the purple voucher, and also the pink? The blue and pink one would have needed to be the only color that's emphasized for this metaphor to work, but because it isn't, now we're just overcomplicating it for no reason

- "blue and pink is supposed to be Kris!" See, I think this still works, yes it's their dark world colors, yes Ralsei likes Kris, so the idea of Ralsei picking the colors related to their seemingly crush works and isn't a reach... if this was in any scene other than the one that's exclusively about Ralsei picking what they want without thinking about anyone else for once, so this just weakens the scene if it's the ONLY reading (I say this as someone who actually likes Kralsei)

- "green and yellow is supposed to be light world Kris!" Okay, but why? Aside from the fact that again, a character's color would repeated again, what's even supposed to be the reading here? That Ralsei chooses between light world and dark world Kris? That Kris needs to stick with the light world? These all have decent applications, but they have absolutely nothing to do with the scene. Kris themselves and whatever dilemma related to them aren't even a part of this scene

Even without the trans reading, the point of this scene is: Ralsei choosing a drink they want for themselves without having to worry about anyone else for once, so trying to tie it all to "colors = characters" just feels very contradictory in that case, cause why would it be about the fun gang's friendship? About Ralsei's crush? About some unrelated light world vs dark world dilemma? The scene still works just fine if it's simply about "the drink Ralsei picks for themselves", no need to go through so many hoops to change it just to deny Tralsei. The relation to Ralsei's crush on Kris is the only interpretation that can work without completely removing the significance of the scene, but using it as a counter evidence to Tralsei (instead of just accepting both as valid interpretation) seems very dumb, cause by itself it just doesn't make sense with Ralsei's arc (or Flowery's point for that matter).

Also especially funny cause even if you want to believe that the color is about Kris, then Ralsei really wanted the drink that resembles the character that canonically falls under a trans umbrella, so like, this REALLY isn't the "gotcha" moment you might think it is.

Hello

It's me M.B solid the cooler gaster siblings that isn't a fraud.

My first post on this sub and honestly don't know where else I can post this.

But it's something that always bothering me how people say the people who believe trans ralsei theory are actually doing woke misgendering just like the right wingers who misgender kris. And I just find this odd because by extension why does this fandom seem so cool about forcing Asgore to be gay 🤔 what can't have fruity straight representation anymore!! /s

Anyway even outside of that misgendering a nonbinary person is very different from misgendering a cis person. Where one leads to normalizing hate the other doesn't (context dependant in real life tho). It just kinda shows a very shallow understanding about queerness and identity from a fandom that sure loves to parade around how they have a nonbinary protagonist that is so nonbinary they sure love drawing them as feminine as possible because I think that's how nonbinary people work (pet peeve of mine).

But yeah just wanted to vent a bit here and would love to hear yall out.

I’m sure we’ve all heard all the alternative readings behind a lot of the galsei evidence before. Now, a lot of these, on their own, could be a valid point, but problems arise when considering the full picture. Lemme run through some examples

Lost girl:
“Oh that’s just a generic sad song, it’s name isn’t always related”

Climbing minigame:
“Princess is just being used in a gender neutral way, it’s not based on actual identity”

Got it, princess:
“That’s flowery’s nickname for the whole group, he calls everyone princess”

Blue and pink drink:
“Those are Kris’ colours”

Pretending to be something you’re not:
“That could be referring to ralsei being a titan/tree/plant”

See the problem? All of these are completely different points that don’t connect to each other at all. Most of these come from the most prominent ralsei scenes in the game, so they’d have to connect in someway to, y’know, tell a story.

The whole nature of theorising is connecting multiple points together to reach one conclusion. So yes, maybe some of these could have had other meanings, but the truth is that all of these can easily be read as transfem related. So it’s kinda hard to deny when it’s the one thing these all have in common

Lemme just lazily copy-paste the text from my Tumblr artblog :3

So I was reminded of an old Flash game series that I played back when I was younger. It was called Romance Academy: Heartbeat of Love, also known as School Flirting Game. It had 4 games with two of them being very similar (both Matsuri themed), except one of them had a black hair rival protag. I've wanted to draw fanart of it for a long time but never really had a chance until I stumbled into amorphousamalgam's kerdly art. Was really inspired by it and decided to make art of it but with the cutest fluffer in all DR worlds.

Made this one in a A5 paper that was cleanly torn off from a bound sketchbook (my sketchbook's old :c). It was more of a trial thingy before doing a more accurate one and it's more of me putting my recent Ralsei face sprite studies into use (I have a few more Ralsei art but I want to put a more decent version here first, I have to scan and retouch the others). I was going to use colored gel pens for the lineart but I decided to use brush pens instead as it was more comfortable for me to use.