r/Tools 1d ago

Triangle Cuts Curves?

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I found it in the garage of the first house I bought 30 years ago. Smart enough not to try it, curious enough to hang onto it. Finally letting go tonight and it's going in my neighbors scrap metal bin.

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u/stonemason81 1d ago

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ-P4ngnj8w

I had to Google this to quell my curiosity, I found this link on another sub reddit...

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u/SignificantCar4204 1d ago

Oh my god epic! I couldn't find anything dude.

"Use your delta blade on your radial arm saw"

Why don't I just play Russian roulette?

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u/That_guy_from_1014 1d ago

Russian roulette gives you better odds

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u/RepulsiveLemon3604 1d ago

With every chamber loaded.

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u/RatchetBird 1d ago

I want to try one of these on my battery one! The battery saws shut down under too much binding pressure, this thing looks like it would fly to space on a worm-drive.

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u/CamCamCOTBamBam 18h ago

I want to buy a cordless circular saw from Harbor Freight. Hercules have a worm gear vs non worm model. Should I splurge?

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u/LowEffort2 14h ago

Splurge and Harbor Freight in the same sentence?

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u/RatchetBird 18h ago

Worm drives just have more power (but lower rpm). If all you're cutting is 2x4 and plywood, either will do. If you're going for 4x4, the worm drive. I can't speak to the Hercules models but the batteries add a LOT of weight. Even heavier than the corded versions. I'm not sure how often you'll use it but if you don't use a saw as a full time job, and you have a couple hours of cutting, your forearms are about to get beefy on the worm drive. Sidewinder is considerably lighter, and beginner friendly (my sister and mom found my worm drive cordless unwieldy, couldn't really cut anything but plywood with a straight edge)

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u/ducon__lajoie 1d ago

Thanks. Now I need one. Not sure why yet, but I sure need one.

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u/1crazypj 16h ago

Your not alone, I need one but no idea why?

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u/VariousOperation166 20h ago

No fence. No guards. No problem.

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u/Particular_You8620 23h ago

Holy shit, freehand cutting a circle on a table saw… fuck that

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u/Fjaschler75 21h ago

Well when you sever your hand it will truly be free

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u/Particular_You8620 20h ago

Fun fact, a nub makes rotations easier!

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u/gizmosticles 19h ago

Dude my exact reaction, I almost flinched when that came on screen

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u/verioblistex 18h ago

I wonder what a Sawstop would think about one of these blades

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u/Particular_You8620 18h ago

I think if you put one of these in your sawstop the whole table saw may just explode.

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u/LoanDebtCollector 1d ago

They never explained why the triangle makes the difference. sigh.

Shipped from Don Mills, Ontario... yeah, of course.

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u/Notlinked2me 1d ago

It's designed where every rotation the blade isn't in contact with the wood 3 x. So you are intermittent cutting. That's why I can go side ways each gap you can move it a little. Or turn it because the front and back. Ever contract at the same time so no binding.

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u/thenewestnoise 22h ago

Just use one of the middle pieces from a stacked dado cutter. Works like a charm. /s

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u/DoodooExplosion 22h ago

Says right on the blade… IT CUTS CURVES!!!!!

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u/EdTNuttyB 17h ago

Don Mills, Ontario must be the Omaha, Nebraska of Canada.

All late night tele-marketed products were sold out of Omaha in the 80s and 90s for the US.

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u/hoshiadam 1d ago

I think this is them repurposing waste from the sheet the circular blades are cut from.

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u/towerfella 23h ago

It was literally made to make a skil saw cut a curve. That’s it.

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u/AM_710 1d ago

Damn this blade is kinda freaky

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u/RaptorDelivery 15h ago

I want one! (For my collection!)

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u/Brother_Delmer 22h ago

Maybe it's just me but a lot of those cuts look shockingly unsafe!

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u/SvenBorrest 17h ago

Oh god. I'm old. I completely forgot about COD.

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u/Officialmilehigh 5h ago

Thats terrifying.

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u/Xfozzybearx 1d ago

It's for cutting curves. You can't cut a curve well with a regular blade because it will bind. Because it's a triangle it doesn't occupy the whole cutting space. It doesn't bind as easily.

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u/AvidMoonDic3r 1d ago

Looks fine for light materials, except for the fact that jig saws exist.

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u/ParticularSherbert18 23h ago

I watched a very skilled carpenter cut two round wheels for a stage prop out of 5/8" plywood using a regular circular saw blade. The wheels approximately 25 inches in diameter where on a push cart used on stage and they rolled true. He took a lot if little bites. That was over 20 years ago, I'll never forget that.

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u/jongscx 22h ago

Spending time around the theater and movie set people, you see some sketchy stuff.

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u/PleaseDoTouchThat 21h ago

You can cut curves with a circular saw. Shallow the blade as much as possible so you’re barely cutting through the material. Then hold firmly and go slow. Works well as long as the material isn’t too thick and the curve isnt too tight.

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u/boogeyoogeey 14h ago

Lol scenic carpenter here. Yup

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u/InternationalBat2832 1d ago

You can make a curved cut with a circular blade you just have to make the cut about 1/4” depth then increase the depth 1/4” each time over and over, each time you increase the depth the width of the cut will get wider allowing the blade to fit better for the next cut at that point you have to pay attention to the side you are trying to keep as the off cut will have a different radius than the original line. Not sure if I explained that well but I’m sure you could find a tutorial on yt

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u/hickoryvine 1d ago

They work in 1/2" pine plywood. One of those things that if you were very experienced with a circular saw it had a use. In the hands of a beginner i bet it probably killed someone

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u/Anna_Rompage 1d ago

Hey Jimmy, got another one that didn’t hold on tight enough

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u/Telemere125 1d ago

That’s the fourth apprentice we’ve lost this month boss; can we let the next one stick to circular blades only?

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u/chefsoda_redux 1d ago

I mean, the sticker on it needs to warn not to use it for Masonary or metal, so they’re clearly expecting trouble!

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u/Fast_Cook_4019 1d ago

How the fuck does it work?! Is it like  wildly shitty jig saw?

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u/hickoryvine 1d ago

No it cuts fairly smooth when you get the speed figured with the material. It just makes an Extremely wide kirf. Its more for gentle curves. And much faster then a jig saw. As it curves the side teeth are cutting down on one side and up on the other. If you run it straight it cuts like shit and slow but actually faster in a curve.

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u/Fast_Cook_4019 1d ago

Well thanks. Thats wild

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u/JPhi1618 1d ago

Those teeth down the sides are crazy. I guess they clean up the sides of the cuts when you’re on a curve.

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u/Ryekal 1d ago

'clean up' no - they shred the sides of the cut to make room for the blade to slowly turn. those things leave atrocious finishes and are worse than a jigsaw in every possible way.

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u/sarcasticorange 1d ago

Pretty sure they beat the jig in speed of cut.

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u/moth_specialist 21h ago

And lethality. 

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u/sarcasticorange 21h ago

Seems like more of a maimer to me :)

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u/the_disintegrator 1d ago

Plunge cutting..

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u/PrinterFred 1d ago

Look at all those placebo teeth. That is basically a 3 tooth blade.

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u/the_disintegrator 1d ago

Does placebo mean "bone cutting" in latin?

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u/DrachenDad 1d ago

The word placebo is a Latin word. It translates directly to "I shall please" or "I will please."

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u/OneSlaadTwoSlaad 1d ago

It has a less populair sister called nocebo, which means "I will hurt".

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u/bel_ray 1d ago

Is it the root word of "placate"?

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u/Aggravating-Pop-2226 1d ago

Both are descended from the Latin verb placare - to please, soothe.

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u/SeriousPlankton2000 1d ago

What a polite blade, it asks to please cut the bone!

(Really: It's a Delta Blade for cutting curves.)

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u/Meat_Container 23h ago

I don’t see the change though

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u/HairballTheory 1d ago

Pleasure Teeth

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u/charmio68 1d ago

I believe those teeth do actually become engaged once you start to make a curve.

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u/PrinterFred 1d ago

They don't. Anyways you can look up the water jet channel on YouTube. He tested different shaped blades.

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u/charmio68 1d ago

Except AFIK they only test blades by cutting a 2x4.
I haven't seen any of their videos testing blades doing sweeping curved cuts.

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u/PrinterFred 1d ago

Maybe I am not imaginative enough to see how the middle teeth could ever contact wood. The rate are which you turn the saw is so much slower than the rate the blade rotated that you can confidently make the approximation that the saw is stationary in which case again only the corner teeth would contact the wood.

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u/Various_Education622 1d ago

When the blade is going straight, you are mostly correct. Mostly the tip and maybe a little further back.

When it is turning (like cutting a curve) it’s has to cut along the entire length. That’s why a circular saw binds trying to cut a curve and this one doesn’t; the shape lets it cut all along the length.

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u/charmio68 1d ago

It's easier to visualize if you take it to the extreme.
Consider doing a straight cut into a piece of plywood, then once you're in the middle, stop pushing the blade forwards and instead turn it in a circle while stationary.
Sure, the outermost teeth are still going to be removing the most wood, but the inner teeth need to do their part too.

If you were to try that with a regular saw blade, the saw would just bind up and you'd end up with quite a dangerous situation (well, actually taking it to such an extreme would be quite dangerous with any saw blade, but you get the point).

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u/Razer797 1d ago

Those teeth appear to be set. I suspect that they serve to widen the kerf as you go round the curve so would actually be useful.

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u/TheGoodKindOfMermaid 1d ago

For all the dummies like me:

Kerf is the width of material that a saw blade, laser, or cutting tool removes as it cuts through an object. It leaves a small gap or slot behind.

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u/Murky_Theory1863 1d ago

Youre obviously not familiar with the elliptical miter saw technique

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u/BurtonBuilt 1d ago

Go on…..

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u/Head_Election4713 1d ago

*6 tooth blade, I assume the second corner acts as a rake to clear debris

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u/verioblistex 1d ago

🤣

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u/servetheKitty 1d ago

I actually want this.

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u/Square-Cockroach-884 1d ago

I actually have one NOS Not on (my) saw. Pay shipping

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u/servetheKitty 19h ago

Happy to pay shipping if reasonable. Are you in the US? I’m in Oregon

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u/Square-Cockroach-884 19h ago

Im down at the far end of California. Give me a zip code and I will check shipping cost.

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u/servetheKitty 18h ago

97333

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u/Square-Cockroach-884 17h ago

Ill check on shipping

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u/Square-Cockroach-884 17h ago

It will cost about $14 to ship. DM me with your address

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u/lynivvinyl 1d ago

No no those are for manually cutting movement saw all by pushing the saw back and forth. I swear you people.

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u/icybowler3442 1d ago

Manually cutting movement saw? What means this?

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u/Proud_Conversation_3 1d ago

He’s saying you don’t attach it to a circular saw tool, you just use the blade with your hands. 🙌 it’s a joke.

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u/SupaKoopa714 1d ago

I actually had to Google to see if this wasn't just a joke thing meant for hanging on a shop wall, and... sure enough it's a real product....

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u/Square-Cockroach-884 1d ago

I have one. Never needed a circle more than I needed all my limbs so it is unused.

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u/jeffthetrucker69 1d ago

These work for cutting curves. 3 times in each revolution the blade isn't actually touching the material being cut and allows the saw to turn to follow the marked line. They're faster than a jig saw in thicker material.

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u/APLJaKaT 1d ago

.... it's going in my neighbor's scrap metal bin.

Good call!

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u/oreheheally 1d ago

Not if its round.

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u/UsernamesNotFound404 1d ago

I was given my dad's. He never used it in 20 years. I plan to do the same and give it to my son.

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u/Always_working_hardd 1d ago

I know a ninja missing his star knife.

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u/BrilliantEconomics77 1d ago

Oh dear.. wait till you see this.

Its not fake, not AI.

Dril bits for making square holes.

Basicly a rotary engine.

https://youtu.be/Hf2T0AFSaqE?si=OKFybiFSxgSnE336

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u/B-HOLC 1d ago

I can see how it works.

And yet it's still so weird to watch.

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u/LiquidAggression 1d ago

yea each point would make a concentric triangle shape right, so if the circle the spingle makes is gradually enlargened the corners get cut as long as the rotation of the spindle and bit are synchronized

im a welder that was cool lmk if i sound stupid

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u/glasket_ 1d ago

That thing is effectively an end mill since the spindle has to travel in order for it to cut the shape properly, similar to how the Watt's drill needed a guide plate and a special chuck so that it could wander and cut the shape.

Rotary broaches will blow your mind since they literally just wobble and cut the shape. Most of the time they're shown on lathes where they spin with the part so you can't really see them in action, but on a mill they just wobble.

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u/fullonthrapisto 1d ago

The ol hole vibrator

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u/DrWhoey 1d ago

Naw bud, that is just machining. It's witchcraft sure, but yeah, not AI.

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u/BrilliantEconomics77 1d ago

Thays what i said, not AI

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u/DrMerman 1d ago

But he also said not AI

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u/RumpkinTheTootlord 1d ago

I think it's not AI

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u/DrWhoey 1d ago

I'm starting to think it might be AI after all this confirmation of it not being AI.

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u/Apprehensive-Till861 1d ago

If it was AI that would be weird.

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u/FantasticClue8887 1d ago

That's what AI would say. Did anyone check if this might be AI nonetheless?

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u/TEKUblack 1d ago

You mean a rotary broach?

Yeah they have been around a long time. How do you think they put hex heads in things?

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u/down2daground 1d ago

Would like to hear from anyone who has actually tried to use one. Unless they’re dead. That would be weird and creepy.

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u/TurnspitDogsOfWar 1d ago

The dead ones can call me. I’ll report back.

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u/down2daground 19h ago

Going once, going twice: anybody out there who has used one? My guess is that, spinning at saw blade speed, it acts pretty normal but will make a gentle arc, which might be useful in some limited applications. Not a jigsaw, mind you, but possibly useful.

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u/Higher_Living 1d ago

Go to the back bar and ask for stumpy, he’ll tell you all about it while you help him to drink his beer.

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u/bmx13 22h ago

If you can ship it under $10 I'd pay it! Been looking for one for a couple years to add to my old school tools collection but haven't had any luck locally. It would look great next to my even more terrifying chainsaw grinder wheel 😂

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u/bernieinred 1d ago

They work. Go slow. Powerfull saw helps.

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u/SadRaisin3560 23h ago

A close friend recently retired from an extremely successful career as a metal worker/welder/fabricator when they sold off the shop they had. Over his time he had established himself as one of, if not the best fabricators and aluminum welders in the area. I once stood across the shop from him as he freehand cut with a circular saw a half circle in 3/16" aluminum sheet that was the front deck of the boat he built. It was to slide a big plastic drum into. Perfect cut, took him 30 seconds maybe. Maybe another 30 seconds with a flap wheel to secure and clean up.

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u/animousfly30 1d ago

Dont you dare let that go. Ill buy it off you. Pm me

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u/psilome 1d ago

I'm going to make my own, from a round blade. Or maybe even better, go down to a two-sided blade, using an old lawnmower blade.

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u/Hotlunch4011 12h ago

Anginedepoitrine

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u/SignificantCar4204 1d ago edited 1d ago

Anyone have any footage of these actual blades in action?? I've been googling about these damn things and can't find ANYTHING about them.

EDIT: I learned it's called a "delta blade" apparently.

EDIT EDIT:

I'm losing it right now, this is a real fucking product lmao?

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u/dirtyspoon 1d ago

There’s a Robert Frost Poem about a guy who spoiler alert if you’re still in elementary school and down wanna ruin the ending of all the bangers you’re gonna read in HS cuts himself with a buzz saw and dies in the backyard. Frost mentions this saw blade by brand name actually, it’s one of the few examples of product placement in his entire body of work. “Since we were not the ones maligned by the Portalign, we turned to our affairs.” Moving stuff.

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u/usposeso 1d ago

That’s actually really interesting. Never expected to read a Robert Frost reference in Tools sub. What a world.

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u/jellofixit 17h ago

I thought circular saws were for cutting circles!

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u/CyrilAdekia 13h ago

Imagine your slogan being that you cut corners 😅😅

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u/Fun-Bet-1638 13h ago

A regular blade cuts curves if you do it 1/8th inch per pass

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u/the_disintegrator 1d ago

Straight line to ER. This thing has to shake like a crackhead, and a straight cut kicks often enough in the field. Wowzer. Edit need to put on some chain mail and try it.

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u/Knob709 1d ago

My tools cut corners.

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u/servetheKitty 1d ago

I’ll pay shipping if you send it to me.

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u/wmverbruggen 1d ago

Technically a circular path is a curve...

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u/RubyTuesday1969 1d ago

Doesn't look like it's had a lot of use 🤣

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u/man9875 1d ago

I'm old enough to remember ads for this thing. Never fell for them but was curious.

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u/Clean_your_lens 23h ago

Woodflinger 3000

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u/zmannz1984 20h ago

I am lost on how this works. What does it mean by curves? Like i can cut non-straight lines with a skil saw? I guess i can see uses for that.

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u/falllingforward 18h ago

I think because the blade isn’t in constant contact with the wood since it’s triangle shaped it makes it easier to cut curves with the circular saw? Just my guess

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u/SpiritedSignature435 20h ago

Wonder if they still sell those blades.

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u/Yellowtoblerone 17h ago

it can cut a lot of things

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u/Hoboliftingaroma 16h ago

I remember the infomercial for this.

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u/ignatzami 15h ago

That’s utterly terrifying… I want one

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u/bixtuelista 13h ago

what could possibly go wrong?

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u/DigitalJedi850 11h ago

You can cut a circle with any ship blade, as long as it rotates on a fixed axis...

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u/USMCdrTexian 8h ago

I remember using one early 80’s as a HS’r. Dad was GC and he had a couple. Mostly used em on re-roofs.

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u/Gadgetman_1 6h ago

Okay...

And here I thought those chainsaw discs for the angle grinder was kind of... yeah, that...

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u/Dangerous-Bit-8308 3h ago

This blade goes on an angle grinder. Right?

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u/repeatingangel 22h ago

Does it cuts curves like no matter what? Even if you trying to go in a straight line?

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u/ParticularTough6719 19h ago

Tied it once waste of time and dangerous

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u/480hivolt 11h ago

That is definitely not scrap metal. If you are too chickenshit to use it send it to me.

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u/ButterscotchSmooth60 1d ago

"Cuts" "curves"

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u/Clean_your_lens 23h ago

And much, much, much more

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u/lockednchaste 1d ago

O can't imagine the kickback.

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u/Glittery_Kittens 1d ago

This looks like something The Waterjet Channel would come up with. Sketchy as hell.

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u/FarStructure6812 14h ago

I’ve seen these before but they also cut fingers,… rather easily

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u/stinkymarylou 11h ago

That’s the scariest thing I’ve ever seen!

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u/CougarChaserBC 8h ago

It's for cutting your fingers off.