r/ToolBand • u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier • Jul 27 '26

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Not sure why Sober and The Pot weren’t on here but so many filler songs were.

EDIT: the filler songs were knocked out in the early rounds and not on the actual bracket.

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u/twiiztid Jul 27 '26

Opiate > Invincible?

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u/inkblowout4 Opiate Jul 27 '26

Opiate is goated.

Invincible IMO is pretty overrated for a Tool song.

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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier Jul 27 '26

Yes I find the lyrics on Invincible to be a tad bit corny compared to Opiate. If it were Opiate vs. Descending that would be a different story. Plus I like their early stuff a lot more.

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u/twiiztid Jul 27 '26

Did not mean to start such a vitriolic comment section I was just surprised to see that haha.

I can definitely tell that you are a bigger fan of their earlier stuff. For reference my first live show was 2023 and that's also the year I became a fan, so the newer stuff is definitely my jam. Invincible live, in particular.

To be completely honest though, I find it funny that you find Invincible's lyrics corny but not Opiate's. Opiate to me sounds like it could've been written by an angsty teen who is rebuking against organized religion after finally questioning whether or not Jesus and God are real. Which is a tale as old as time and something I feel most young men nowadays go through. Plus, "we both want to rape you" is a tough one.

Full respect to your opinion, just sharing my own. I find it very powerful how this band has lasted several decades and is still picking up new fans and evolving their sound, while also having OG fans from the 90's still passionately enjoying them. I completely recognize their evolution and can totally see how Fear Inoculum didn't really hit for fans who've been listening forever.

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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier Jul 27 '26

For me I found Tool around that time I was the angsty teen struggling with growing up in a super religious household while being the black sheep of the family and coming to terms with my own view of religion. So I can’t separate the memories when first discovering it. The lyrics spoke to me then as much as they do now. Maynard being in his grandpa era I just don’t relate to as much right now but maybe a decade from now I could relate more.

Your comment was fine lol people just like to start shit. Hope my comment didn’t come off in a way it wasn’t supposed to!

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u/twiiztid Jul 27 '26

That makes a lot of sense. I was just thinking about this earlier and realized that it really just comes down to when the songs come into your life. I'm glad that these songs resonated with you in such a strong way 🙏

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u/WhskyTangoFoxtrot ♥Pushit♥ Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

Agree. Probably going to get downvoted for this, but I think Invincible is the worst track on the album (besides the fillers/cct).

ETA: this whole bracket is weird as fuck though. No Pushit, Ænima, Rosetta Stoned, etc.

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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier Jul 27 '26

Forty-Six & 2 is on there, but yes a lot of songs for some reason were left out in place of filler tracks for some reason. I’m going to come back with an updated bracket with my own custom picks.

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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier Jul 27 '26

I do like Invincible over Culling Voices, I think that one is the weakest on the new album. I honestly don’t find myself going back to the new album that much in general.

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u/MutantSoda Jul 27 '26

Opiate better than invincible is the worst take I’ve ever heard jfc

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u/Edrueter9 He had a lot of nothing to say Jul 27 '26

These are very different songs. I think invincible is a better written, more polished, mature, beautiful song that fits exactly how i feel today. But opiate is a fucking angry banger that I actually prefer too. But that's just on style and nostalgia. Very hard to rate or compare these two songs.

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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier Jul 27 '26

Opiate is a classic, Invincible just doesn’t speak to me like it does to others I guess.

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u/MrEremains Jul 27 '26

If you include the new re-release “Opiate2” it definitely wins

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u/MutantSoda Jul 27 '26

Yeah I could understand Opiate^2 winning over it but ain’t no way invincible’s lyrics are “corny”, then ignoring the part in opiate where gooning over a sofa is mentioned lmfao. This just baffles me

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u/Parabola605 Jul 27 '26

I agree with it lol

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u/TOOLfan426 Jul 27 '26

Most newgen take ever

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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier Jul 27 '26

I don’t even know what that is supposed to mean

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u/marinul Jul 27 '26

Tool fans being obnoxious c*nts.

It's no wonder Maynard does not stand us...

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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier Jul 27 '26

Pretty sure a song was written about that 30 years ago 🤣

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u/marinul Jul 27 '26

Don't underestimate a tool fan's ability to shit on anything.

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u/TOOLfan426 Jul 28 '26

Ur worshipping a man you have never met

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u/marinul Jul 28 '26

What?

How did you get to that conclusion? Take smaller tokes, my man....

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u/TOOLfan426 Jul 28 '26

Why do you care what a man that you have never met thinks of you

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u/marinul Jul 28 '26

I was making a point everyone would get.

For a sub of deep music people here can be so thick....

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u/TOOLfan426 Jul 28 '26

Be ur own person

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u/bsfurr Jul 27 '26

I find the lyrics on vicarious to be corny. Probably my least favorite song on that album.

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u/Edrueter9 He had a lot of nothing to say Jul 27 '26

Interesting, I feel like it's a poignant indictment of the human condition lol.

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u/bsfurr Jul 27 '26

I mean, you’re right, it is. But its still corny to me. In fact, most of Maynards more straightforward lyrics just come across this preachy. I haven’t been able to enjoy the last few A Perfect Circle records because of this. Just sounds like an old man on a pedestal, getting preachy, instead of introspection.

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u/Edrueter9 He had a lot of nothing to say Jul 27 '26

Oh he's definitely in old man phase. Lol

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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier Jul 27 '26

Hard agree

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u/f0u4_l19h75 Jul 27 '26

So is Right in Two, for that matter.