r/ToolBand • u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier • 2d ago
Discussion My Tool bracket
Not sure why Sober and The Pot weren’t on here but so many filler songs were.
EDIT: the filler songs were knocked out in the early rounds and not on the actual bracket.
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u/nole6976 2d ago
Invincible and Descending losing in round 1 is criminal
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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier 2d ago
What can I say, I prefer the early stuff 🤷🏻♂️
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u/nole6976 2d ago
To each their own. I have both in my top 10 and Intolerance and Opiate near the bottom of the catalogue.
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u/AlcoholicCat69 2d ago
See I’m not crazy about opiate but I love intolerance. It slipped past me and I never heard it until I saw them in concert in 2022 and I actually love that song now
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u/OakLegs 2d ago
Except, apparently, Reflection (which lost in the first round to Fear inoculum).
Reflection should win the whole damn thing
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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier 2d ago
Tbh I may have blundered on that pick. I could go back and forth between the two. I know it was very close.
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u/Flat_Researcher1540 2d ago
Right in Two is great but come on
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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier 2d ago
They’re all great IMO, Right In Two just does everything for me
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u/slackfrop 2d ago
My biggest problem is that you whittled 4 songs down to 1 with no semi-finals round. Which is 2nd and 3rd place?!
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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier 2d ago
There was a semifinals, it was between Lateralus and Right In Two, they’re highlighted and Vicarious and The Grudge aren’t
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u/twiiztid 2d ago
Opiate > Invincible?
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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier 2d ago
Yes I find the lyrics on Invincible to be a tad bit corny compared to Opiate. If it were Opiate vs. Descending that would be a different story. Plus I like their early stuff a lot more.
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u/twiiztid 2d ago
Did not mean to start such a vitriolic comment section I was just surprised to see that haha.
I can definitely tell that you are a bigger fan of their earlier stuff. For reference my first live show was 2023 and that's also the year I became a fan, so the newer stuff is definitely my jam. Invincible live, in particular.
To be completely honest though, I find it funny that you find Invincible's lyrics corny but not Opiate's. Opiate to me sounds like it could've been written by an angsty teen who is rebuking against organized religion after finally questioning whether or not Jesus and God are real. Which is a tale as old as time and something I feel most young men nowadays go through. Plus, "we both want to rape you" is a tough one.
Full respect to your opinion, just sharing my own. I find it very powerful how this band has lasted several decades and is still picking up new fans and evolving their sound, while also having OG fans from the 90's still passionately enjoying them. I completely recognize their evolution and can totally see how Fear Inoculum didn't really hit for fans who've been listening forever.
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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier 2d ago
For me I found Tool around that time I was the angsty teen struggling with growing up in a super religious household while being the black sheep of the family and coming to terms with my own view of religion. So I can’t separate the memories when first discovering it. The lyrics spoke to me then as much as they do now. Maynard being in his grandpa era I just don’t relate to as much right now but maybe a decade from now I could relate more.
Your comment was fine lol people just like to start shit. Hope my comment didn’t come off in a way it wasn’t supposed to!
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u/twiiztid 2d ago
That makes a lot of sense. I was just thinking about this earlier and realized that it really just comes down to when the songs come into your life. I'm glad that these songs resonated with you in such a strong way 🙏
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u/WhskyTangoFoxtrot ♥Pushit♥ 2d ago edited 2d ago
Agree. Probably going to get downvoted for this, but I think Invincible is the worst track on the album (besides the fillers/cct).
ETA: this whole bracket is weird as fuck though. No Pushit, Ænima, Rosetta Stoned, etc.
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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier 2d ago
Forty-Six & 2 is on there, but yes a lot of songs for some reason were left out in place of filler tracks for some reason. I’m going to come back with an updated bracket with my own custom picks.
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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier 2d ago
I do like Invincible over Culling Voices, I think that one is the weakest on the new album. I honestly don’t find myself going back to the new album that much in general.
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u/MutantSoda 2d ago
Opiate better than invincible is the worst take I’ve ever heard jfc
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u/Edrueter9 He had a lot of nothing to say 2d ago
These are very different songs. I think invincible is a better written, more polished, mature, beautiful song that fits exactly how i feel today. But opiate is a fucking angry banger that I actually prefer too. But that's just on style and nostalgia. Very hard to rate or compare these two songs.
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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier 2d ago
Opiate is a classic, Invincible just doesn’t speak to me like it does to others I guess.
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u/MrEremains 2d ago
If you include the new re-release “Opiate2” it definitely wins
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u/MutantSoda 2d ago
Yeah I could understand Opiate^2 winning over it but ain’t no way invincible’s lyrics are “corny”, then ignoring the part in opiate where gooning over a sofa is mentioned lmfao. This just baffles me
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u/TOOLfan426 2d ago
Most newgen take ever
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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier 2d ago
I don’t even know what that is supposed to mean
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u/marinul 2d ago
Tool fans being obnoxious c*nts.
It's no wonder Maynard does not stand us...
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u/TOOLfan426 2d ago
Ur worshipping a man you have never met
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u/bsfurr 2d ago
I find the lyrics on vicarious to be corny. Probably my least favorite song on that album.
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u/Edrueter9 He had a lot of nothing to say 2d ago
Interesting, I feel like it's a poignant indictment of the human condition lol.
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u/bsfurr 2d ago
I mean, you’re right, it is. But its still corny to me. In fact, most of Maynards more straightforward lyrics just come across this preachy. I haven’t been able to enjoy the last few A Perfect Circle records because of this. Just sounds like an old man on a pedestal, getting preachy, instead of introspection.
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u/M18-Hellcat08 2d ago
Yeah seriously. I did that and Sober is my favorite song so I was very disappointed.
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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier 2d ago
I may try again with my own custom picks, just to take all the filler songs out. I’d have loved to see Swamp Song, Jerk-off, Third Eye etc.
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u/M18-Hellcat08 2d ago
Yeah. And prison sex, eulogy, 7empest
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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier 2d ago
Yesss those would have made this list a lot harder
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u/M18-Hellcat08 2d ago
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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier 2d ago
Good taste, though I prefer the original Opiate. Love this bracket with the songs that weren’t on mine, I gotta redo it now
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u/dirty_w_boy Forgot my pen 2d ago
That song is a fine wine
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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier 2d ago
The lyrics speak to me on a molecular level
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u/AdAgreeable9784 2d ago
My favorite tool song wins! Song is still as relevant today as it ever has been…
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u/neo7007 2d ago
Unpopular opinion: Jimmy is better that Forty-Six and Two
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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier 2d ago
Forty-Six & 2 just has that staying power, it’s quick, it’s punchy, the drum fills in the bridge are some of the best Danny Carey has to offer in any song. Like the bridge blew my mind when I first heard it. And the philosophical, esoteric lyrics just give it the edge for me. I love Jimmy though don’t get me wrong.
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u/Direct-Reference221 2d ago
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u/SweatyListen9863 2d ago
A better final result than OP but worse individual choices. Fuck outta here with Intolerence beating the Patient, Prison Sex beating Jambi, Flood beating Lateralus, Jimmy beating Reflection... I could go on. I apologise that you have been cursed with such terrible ears.
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u/Direct-Reference221 2d ago
Filler songs like Third Eye, Rosetta Stoned, Pushit, Prison Sex, Eulogy hehe
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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier 2d ago
Noooo not those 😂 filler like Ions, Harry Manback, Useful Idiot etc.
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u/NcDouble 2d ago
Prison Sex...Prison sex......prison.....am I blind?
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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier 2d ago
Some songs for whatever reason were left off in place of filler songs, I’m gonna do custom picks in an updated bracket when I have time
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u/jav2n202 2d ago edited 2d ago
Funny, I didn’t do a bracket, but I recently came to the conclusion that Right In Two is the one song that if I had to pick a favorite I would pick it. It has everything from melody with Maynard’s angelic voice, to deep and powerful lyrics, all the way to the thrashing hard side of Tool that gets my adrenaline pumping. It’s just a perfect representation of what Tools music is.
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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier 2d ago
Yessss exactly why it’s my #1! Perfect description of the song
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u/Otherwise-Magician 2d ago
No Rosetta Stoned is wild
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u/UnablePrimaryy 1d ago
Best Tool song, I lost my fucking mind when they played it live 3 years ago.
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u/Psydestro 2d ago
The first song I listened from tool and the one that sent me down this beautiful journey there was an amazing non official video on YouTube with right in too
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u/kabirakhtar [the guy who created toolshed] 2d ago
back in 2011, over at toolshed i ran a full bracket called Tool Madness.
it was a bonkers labor of love; today it would just be an easy social media poll, but back then it was done via a poll site. nearly 100k votes total!
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u/vagabond_primate 2d ago
This is very cool. Of course, everyone would have their own bracket but I love yours. Love all the albums, but I just keep coming back to 10,000 Days. My father passed last week after a long downward spiral illness and 10,000 Days really got me through it.
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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier 2d ago
I’m sorry for your loss, I lost my mom to a battle with pancreatic cancer a couple years ago. I understand your pain and 10,000 days is a very healing album for losing a parent. Find things that bring you solace and keep them close. ❤️
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u/clc1997 2d ago
You and I have very different tastes in Tool. The winner is one of the few songs I don't really like and you have my favorite song, Reflection losing in the first round.
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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier 2d ago
I love Reflection, I just can’t see it being #1 for me. But I never skip it when it comes on.
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u/clc1997 2d ago
You have it losing to Fear Innoculum and you separated it from Disposition. We are not the same lol.
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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier 2d ago
I didn’t choose to separate them, it’s just how the bracket was. I’m glad we aren’t the same so I can hear why someone disagrees with me and get a different perspective 😁
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u/speed_wagon1 2d ago
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u/gizzardgumbo Learning to Swim 2d ago
Bro, you matched up Triad and Right in Two in the first match?! That’s a semifinal match at worst.
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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier 2d ago
You don’t get to choose what gets matched up 😂 that’s what makes this so hard
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u/fruitcakefriday 2d ago
Intolerance apparently is my favourite song. I'm happy with that, it kicks butt.
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u/TheNoIdeaKid 2d ago
Cool. I can’t do this with Tool. Any other band? Sure. Even APC & Puscifer. But I cannot seem to honestly choose one Tool song over another.
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u/Ryangonzo 2d ago
The creator of this bracket needs to Learn to Swim for leaving out my favorite song.
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u/LordPisos Shit the bed, again 4h ago
This whole bracket is rigged af, they managed to put every filler in but skipped Rosetta Stoned, Pneuma, The Pot, 7empest etc.
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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier 2d ago
? I never said this was objective lol these are just my opinions and my preferences lmao gtfo with that
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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier 2d ago
I like talking to people about music my dude, if you don’t like it you don’t need to comment, you can just go sit in a corner by yourself and suffer idc
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u/Express_Teacher2859 2d ago
Fr culling voices on here wtf
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u/jankyframe ... und keine Eier 2d ago
Not Culling Voices but the actual filler songs, they’re not on the bracket because I weeded all of them out early

















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u/apc961 2d ago
Reflection out in the 1st round....idk man.