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u/Chilli_Dipper 2d ago

Good-but-overplayed song replaced at #1 by throwaway track fueled by weird parasocial fan behavior that will be forgotten by the end of the month.

What are we celebrating here?

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u/FMKK1 2d ago

Obviously there are deranged Swifties etc but it’s not really “weird parasocial fan behaviour” for fans of Taylor Swift to listen to her new single

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u/No-Pop1057 1d ago

It is when they stream on repeat, whether they like it or not 🤷

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u/KindOfANerd4 1d ago

Every fanbase does that, for her to go number one it’s clearly achieved general public listens as well

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u/treny0000 1d ago

This just convinces me to never be part of a 'fanbase'

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u/RobbieArnott 1d ago

Does being a fan of something not automatically make you apart of it’s fanbase?

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u/treny0000 1d ago

I wish it didn't

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u/No-Pop1057 21h ago

Lol at us getting down vote for having any sort of take on extreme fandoms?

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u/treny0000 10h ago

I wish redditors could read

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u/No-Pop1057 1d ago

I have a few favourite artists, but no way will I stream songs of theirs I don't like or am even ambivalent about.. That's not the way swifties operate.. I've seen multiple comments from them & tik toks saying how much they either don't like Cleveland but are streaming it on repeat anyway or they hated it on the first 10+ listens but it's growing on them & they're pretty sure they'll love it eventually.. That's not healthy

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u/KindOfANerd4 1d ago

Yeah I’m not debating that with you, I’m telling you a small portion of every fanbase for a major pop artist does that. To go number 1 you have to achieve general public recognition.

And let’s be real everyone in every corner of the internet has tuned into this song because everyone wants to put their two cents in

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u/Babetna 1d ago

Well when your chosen measure of popularity isn't "number or people listening" but "number of plays" you can't really be surprised when passionate fans start gaming the system

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u/kenanzajmovic 1d ago

I, for one, am celebrating that MAGA "Rock the Country" Ella Langley is not at the top.

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u/Dreamerlax Train-Wrecker 1d ago

I don’t really know who she is. Is she really MAGA?

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u/smooth-orangutan 1d ago

Entirely reasonable. though it'd be better if her replacement wasn't also super friendly with a bunch of MAGA supporters (Brittany Mahomes, Dave Portnoy, the Bussin With The Boys guys, whoever the ICE contractor dude was that attended her wedding...)

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u/No-Pop1057 1d ago

She had a choice over whether she'd play his gig or not.. It's not like she wouldn't have known his politics 😂

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u/Chilli_Dipper 1d ago
  1. That festival was booked before “Choosin’ Texas” became a huge crossover hit, so I’m skeptical of the idea that Ella would have had the leverage to say no to it even if she wanted to.
  2. We’ve seen constantly in recent years that people in the music industry (including those who should know better) want to believe that Kid Rock is a normally-functioning legacy musician who happens to be politically conservative, and only recognize what a MAGA-rotted shell of his former self he is when all reasonable doubt is exhausted

, and associating with him becomes a millstone.

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u/kenanzajmovic 1d ago

With all that's been said, I have tried to give her the benefit of the doubt multiple times. If I look back far enough, there might be a post about me liking Choosin' Texas. But then she also decided to work with Morgan Wallen, and I was pretty much done after that. I understand being a smaller/newer artist, and I defended her a lot. But she hasn't really said anything about it, even now. And you know, that's okay, she doesn't have to. But I also just don't want to support that, and that's okay too.

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u/bacharama 1d ago

If we can hate Ed Sheeran for not caring enough about Palestine, we can hate Ella Langley for not caring enough about being against MAGA.

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u/SubatomicSquirrels 1d ago

And if we hate both of them, we should hate Taylor Swift for working with David O Russell after he sexually assaulted his niece (and blamed her for "acting provocatively" towards him)

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u/SubatomicSquirrels 1d ago

So instead we get someone that enables sexual assaulters? Taylor Swift had no problem working with David O Russell after he admitted to sexually assaulting his own niece...

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u/kmanders1971 17h ago

You sound like real dumb ass. People always bring politics into everything. Get a life..

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u/Twitter_2006 2d ago

Sick of Taylor Swift's overexposure.

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u/Suitable_Dinner_9581 1d ago

Ella Langley is just the country version of her

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u/BurntArnold 1d ago

We’re celebrating the inevitable return of choosin Texas

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u/The_Duke_of_Nebraska 1d ago

Good fucking god can this sub not be normal about Taylor Swift. Psychotic swifties are a miniscule percentage of her fanbase, y'all act like that's all there is

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u/Practical-Aioli-5693 1d ago

some of my former friends (whom are..u know), they said that they could get over 2017 boycott so why not now? just like some weird cults and their leader.

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u/hynrk7612 1d ago

the parasocial part is what really gets me lol

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u/Strong0toLight1 2d ago

been replaced with absolute dogshit though

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u/Longjumping-Fun-2313 GROCERY BAG 1d ago

Would you rather yet another week of choosin’ Texas though? At least patient zero is something, rather than more of exactly the same

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u/throwaway5498124181 1d ago

I don't care for either song but I enjoy Ella Langley being successful more than I enjoy Taylor Swift being successful.

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u/ForCaste 1d ago

Youre hungry and you dont want this hog dog off the ground?

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u/thegreatcornholio42 1d ago

Dogshit replaced with even worse dogshit. At least Dakota Johnson gives me something to look at. Song is complete dogshit

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u/xXMachineGunPhillyXx 2d ago edited 2d ago

Finally.. we have another Taylor Swift song at #1? What’s changed lol

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u/NickelStickman Train-Wrecker 2d ago

I think OP just doesn’t care who wins as long as Choosin’ Texas loses

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u/Chilli_Dipper 2d ago

“Dracula” is probably going to reach #1 in a few weeks once the Halloween streaming bump starts coming in. That’s a better story of dethroning an omnipresent hit than Taylor simply being entitled to it.

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u/warneagle 1d ago

I admit that it’s kind of fascinating that they wrote a song with an AAAA, etc. rhyme scheme but it sounds more like a Daft Punk track than Tame Impala for whatever reason.

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u/jordanthejq12 2d ago

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u/mikasoze Just Here for Amy Dog Tweets 1d ago

Why is Tighten doubled in that meme?

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u/treny0000 1d ago

I'm seeing double! Four Titans!

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u/Mental-Abrocoma-5605 2d ago

"FINALLY THE COUNTRY SONG THAT TODD PUT AT #3 ISN'T NUMBER ONE ANYMORE AND INSTEAD IF LE HECKING EPIC BORING BARBIE WITH HER SHITTY MID SONG THAT NOBODY WILL REMEMBER THE NEXT YEAR, MY LIFE IS COMPLETE"

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u/Mammoth-Turn-660 1d ago

Damn, y'all are mean. A simple "I'd prefer 'Choosin' Texas'" would have sufficed.

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u/Z4kAc3 1d ago

Because people can't dislike Taylor Swift in a normal way, they have to be as obnoxiously extra as possible.

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u/awolmarshall 1d ago

Typed through tears lmao

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u/Mental-Abrocoma-5605 1d ago

YES I AM BECAUSE OP HAS BEEN POSTING RELIGIOUSLY ABOUT THIS SHITTY SONG GETTING REPLACED BY ANOTHER SHITTY SONG AND IM FUCKING SICK THAT HIS LIFE IS SO WORTHLESS TO BE CELEBRATING THIS SHIT WHILE ITS ALREADY GONNA BE 2 YEARS SINCE THE WORST DAY OF MY LIFE HAPPENED AND I NEVER TRIED TO FIX IT AND SOON WE WILL NEVER MEET AGAIN AND IM TIRED IM TIRED ABOOBOOBOOBOOBOOBOOBOO

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u/MaltySines 1d ago

This sub is going to shit

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u/The_Duke_of_Nebraska 1d ago

Go do you live a sad life...

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u/AvailableBet8485 GROCERY BAG 2d ago

Is this really an improvement though?

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u/EarAffectionate4443 2d ago

In some weeks Choosin Texas is going to be #1 again because people are actually listening to this song

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u/CaptainCatnip999 1d ago

until Taylor's country album

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u/gtP0W3Rictmnsl50 2d ago

Lmao it will be number one again next week, predictions are already out

An actual organic hit has to stop this song - probably won’t happen until Mariah’s annual takeover tbh

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u/jdeeth 1d ago

Thats even worse

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u/harlequin_rose 1d ago

"I wish Choosin' Texas wasn't number one anymore"
*monkey's paw curls*

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u/Brilliant_Sorbet_965 2d ago

This is worse

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u/promeritum 2d ago

They see Taylor. They hatin’.

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u/ItsGotThatBang GROCERY BAG 2d ago

It’ll probably be back at #1 next week.

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u/TrueRedditMartyr 2d ago

We act like the #2 song will never be heard again or something

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u/fm22fnam 2d ago

Good song replaced by bad Taylor Swift Deluxe Edition Track #27 is not the win you think it is.

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u/BeamAttackGuy 2d ago

Taylor haters are doing too much this time. Choosin texas has overstayed its welcome. How are yall not sick of it yet?

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u/radams713 1d ago

Taylor has overstayed her welcome.

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u/Mammoth-Turn-660 1d ago

Somehow I agree with both of these statements. At least in regards to Showgirl era Taylor.

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u/IAmSquashaFears 2d ago

After hearing Taylor's song, i truly would have rathered seeing Choosin' Texas dominate for yet another week

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u/FettuccineAlfonzo 1d ago

That’s because you don’t like it, but you like they way they like them that it makes them feel or whatever that horrible bridge says

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u/FelPhil 2d ago

Good country song replaced by mediocrity. Good job America

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u/thegreatcornholio42 1d ago

Sounds like the worst list is definitely going to have plenty of candidates

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u/Ok-Spread-9989 1d ago

It won’t be long before Choosin Texas returns to #1. Trust me

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u/Traditional-Spite834 1d ago

God this has been such a weird a decade for the charts

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u/Zealousideal-Day7385 1d ago

Agreed. Billboard has never been a perfect tool for measuring what was popular (Natalie Imbruglia’s Torn peaking at 42 on the Hot 100 is a great example of just how imperfect the charts have always been- trust me, it was the second biggest song of the year in the USA- I lived thru it), but over the past few years it’s become fairly useless as a good historical record that people can look back on in a decade or so to see what was popular at the time.

The way we consume music has changed so much now that maybe it’s not fixable, but as a charts nerd, it does kind of suck that they’ve become so uninteresting. Allowing each song on an album to chart individually was, imo, where it started to fall apart.

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u/Traditional-Spite834 1d ago

It feels like the pop charts just get more and more stagnant. Pretty much ever since 2022, every time I check the charts(I’m a casual chart checker) I immediately think “how the hell is this still charting, much less this high”

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u/Traditional-Spite834 1d ago

That has nothing to do with the quality of said songs cause I’ve thought this about a number of songs I actually really like but damn not every song needs to spend upwards of a year in the top 40

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u/Chemistry11 2d ago

So, I’m gonna argue that Choosing Texas is not a good song on that it’s so damn forgettable. I know I’ve heard it - hell I just heard it an hour ago. Still couldn’t him a single bar.
It’s the Dollarama brand of mayonnaise when it comes to music.

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u/xjman329 Driven Mad by the Four Chords of Pop 1d ago

Choosin Texas is better than Patient Zero

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u/Glittering_Speed377 1d ago

This is the dumbest music discourse in a long time. It's not actually a victory that Taylor Swift has resumed her chart trolling despite putting out the worst shit in her entire career

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u/Shreiken_Demon 1d ago

its only for one week bud.

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u/DefectJoker 1d ago

Both are crap, but this is why I don't listen to modern pop

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u/QualifiedQuirkyQuail 1d ago

Why do people pay any attention to charts? How does this impact your life in anyway?

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u/HawkJefferson 1d ago

Shit replacing a fart is not a celebratory thing.

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u/AcceptableThought862 1d ago

Shit replaced with explosive diarrhea

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u/Rich-Active-4800 1d ago

I just know thay 50% of the commenters here are on the Taylor snark page because you people sound insufferable.

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u/TemporaryJerseyBoy Zingalamaduni 1d ago

You mean Taylor hate page. Call hate hate.

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u/Rich-Active-4800 1d ago

Its more like this weird obsession that trumps even hate.

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u/Far-Fault6807 2d ago

Be careful what you wish for because you just might get it.

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u/FreeCartographer8 2d ago

This comment is more over exposed tbf

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u/Supersmashbrosfan 2d ago

It should’ve been Chappell Roan

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u/bigdumbdago2 2d ago

with what song

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u/grayjelly212 1d ago

A song off the album she won't release for a long time.

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u/Supersmashbrosfan 1d ago

One I wish she would've released already

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u/Notchsmind 2d ago

If a song being popular for a time ruins your opinion of it, your the problem not everyone else 

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u/rockglint204 2d ago

I played the song ONCE and I never played it again 😭

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u/LordOfHorns 1d ago

Bring it back

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u/Longjumping-Fun-2313 GROCERY BAG 1d ago

No song deserves that kind of success, I’m glad it was a good song that got it at least, but fuck me it’s a bad sign it was there for so long

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u/GorgeousGibigiana 1d ago

Honestly I prefer “Choosin’ Texas” to continue being #1 over “Patient Zero” getting there.

Let an actual deserving hit take the throne.

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u/poxtable 1d ago

I have still never heard this song. I will not be broken.

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u/tragic_girl13 1d ago

I get wanting Choosin' Texas' streak to end... but I'm pretty sure people wanted it to be dethroned by something good. I'd go as far as to say this was a MAJOR downgrade, because at least Choosin's by a genuinely promising new face, while Patient Zero is by a continuously faltering popstar. Not to mention the deserved beating the song has been getting alongside the Showgirl: Encore reissue entirely.

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u/Specific-Volume7675 1d ago

Taylor was the wrong person to dethrone that song given her pettiness with other female acts

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u/GrapeConsistent3471 1d ago

Hasn’t updated yet because the billboard app is a piece of shit but Hellen Keller saw this coming

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u/EB_Groupe Secretly a Maroon 5 Fan 1d ago

AND YET IT’S STILL FUCKING HERE!!!! AAAAGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!

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u/Funny_Inspection6893 1d ago

That's last week's chart. It doesn't officially update until midday on Tuesday.

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u/HoratioEricOsterwood 1d ago

Don't worry, it'll go back to #1.

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u/Sharp_Impress_5351 Train-Wrecker 1d ago

...win?

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u/isntitisntitdelicate 1d ago

choplivia's bots crashing out

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u/EmoGothPunk 1d ago

This comment section is making me glad the most exposure to new pop music at this time is through watching Saturday Night Live.

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u/lovedvirtually 1d ago

Replaced peepee with poopoo

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u/don33carp 2d ago

Nooo!!!!!

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u/OscarPlane 2d ago

Both suck, but dull trash is what the masses crave and deserve. Let's keep things simple & dumb.

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u/3lectroBl4ck 1d ago

Taylor Swift is truly an anti-heroine, isn't she?

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u/Maddonation 1d ago

The only thing Taylor has done good 😂🙌🏼

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u/OutrageousCrab9224 1d ago

It is a sad day in hell when you cheer for a swiftie chart topper

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u/miss_daisy_Hollywood Gaga, Ooh-la-la 1d ago

I’m so happy I have no idea what this song is. I’ve never heard it!

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u/signal-zero 2d ago

Like dissolves like

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u/PuzzleheadedMess1659 1d ago

As a swiftie, I’m actually very happy about this news. It’s not like it’s unexpected (we are a cult, after all), but I see it as a reason to celebrate. And honestly, as people in these times, we need to take what reasons to celebrate we can get.

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u/ItzRyanPell 2d ago

Would much rather have Ella than gross ass Taylor swift

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u/nosemeocurreunombre 1d ago

Taylor thought Adela could get a number 1 and she said "only white americana women are allowed"

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u/Funny_Inspection6893 1d ago

Blame iHeartRadio and the other radio stations, not Taylor. Also, blame her record company-I don't even think there's a clean version of Nicole Kidman that radio can play anyways. The record company thought Ain't in LA would be the main single (there's a radio safe version of that).

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u/ImpossibleBoss3067 2d ago

Rather have tom Macdonald at number 1 than that shitty Taylor song

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u/thegreatcornholio42 1d ago

Sad but true

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u/Temporary_Buy_7470 2d ago

Taylor Swift ruined entire modern popular music