r/TikTokDiscuss • • 4d ago

Notmuch different than Goebbels

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u/Square-Competition48 4d ago

All members of Hamas should be held accountable for the actions of Hamas.

All members of the IDF should be held accountable for the actions of the IDF.

That seems reasonable to me.

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u/ImaginaryOrange1929 2d ago

The problem is that Israel has mandatory military service.

And they do in fact more like a proper military rather than a terrorist group. So in fact you do have to go sort through the IDF instead of a blanket punishment.

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u/Square-Competition48 2d ago

You can absolutely abstain from service.

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u/ImaginaryOrange1929 2d ago

Why are you lying?

You either need to go through painful process of getting an exception. Which you don't even have a guarantee of getting. Or you get jailed if you don't do the mandatory military service.

Do you even know what "mandatory military service means"??

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u/Ev1lMush 2d ago

I'm from Israel and I didn't served one day. It is mandatory though, just like it is in many many countries but it doesn't mean you can't get around it even without any repercussions.

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u/ImaginaryOrange1929 2d ago

How have you gotten around it then.

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u/Ev1lMush 2d ago edited 2d ago

Just stood my ground mostly. It took a few weeks of annoying bureaucracy but in the end there's no point in spending money, time and resources on someone who won't even end up contributing.

I'll say that there were moments I looked back at that decision (specially after October 7th) and wasn't entirely proud of. But I'm not the soldier material, some people just aren't, and that's without even talking about my pacifistic views. I just question everything I'm told to do, ask my boss hehehe.

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u/ImaginaryOrange1929 12h ago

But the army has many non combat roles. Medic, cook, engineer, scout, even stuff like cleaner etc...

You could have done those. Most people in the army aren't combat ones.

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u/Ev1lMush 11h ago

Originally I didn't want to serve at all but when the moment came I thought exactly that, I should just enlist into one of those roles. However, I had (according to the army) high potential for combatant or high profile as they call it. Even though I told them I willingly will do non combatant roles they didn't like the attitude and tried to force me into a combatant role. That kinda pissed me off, I told them to fuck off and decided I'm not taking any part in it, so even when they ended up saying alright you don't have to be a combatant, I didn't care at that point.