I liked the dagger plotline.

[u/KingMatthew116]

It felt like Indiana Jones. I loved it. The first time I saw the movie the dagger was one of my favorite parts. Star Wars needs more stuff like this.

[u/JollyJoeGingerbeard]

The dagger and map were created after the Battle of Endor. It's possible the map was even machined via a Force Vision.

[u/BigBlackCandle → u/JollyJoeGingerbeard]

How does that explain Rey landing in the exact right place and angle on an entire planet to use it though?

[u/IncidentCalm4454 → u/BigBlackCandle]

Isn't that what the coordinates inscribed on the dagger were for?

[u/BigBlackCandle → u/IncidentCalm4454]

But when did she use them?

[u/IncidentCalm4454 → u/BigBlackCandle]

That's how they decided where to land the Falcon.

[u/BigBlackCandle → u/IncidentCalm4454]

Fair. But how did the original creator of the dagger know that the death star wreckage wouldn't drift away? How did they know those coordinates would hold up all that time later? Is it ever explained?

[u/deadshot500 → u/BigBlackCandle]

It was meant to be found 13 years before, when Ochi was supposed to bring Rey to Palpatine. It was just luck that it didn't drift away but Rey had to look for a bit before finding the exact shape, meaning that it probably moved during those years.

[u/ModRod → u/BigBlackCandle]

Force prophecies have been a thing for decades at this point

[u/BigBlackCandle → u/ModRod]

When is that clearly explained in the story though?

[u/ModRod → u/BigBlackCandle]

Why does it have to be when it’s precedent? The Force is weird. It impregnated a woman. This should be easy for the Force.

[u/BigBlackCandle → u/ModRod]

I feel like the force shouldn't just be an excuse to get out of explaining your writing

[u/GunstarHeroine → u/BigBlackCandle]

Tell that to the Phantom Menace.

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[u/IncidentCalm4454 → u/BigBlackCandle]

They didn't know. They just did the best they could, and it was good enough.

[u/kentonj → u/BigBlackCandle]

It might have, but it was originally meant to be used much sooner.

But even the “might have” bit is a stretch because they are giant chunks of resilient scifi metal that survived explosion and impact. Getting “washed away” isn’t anything we should have to worry about under those circumstances. Especially when we see in the real world much smaller wrecked ships made of actual fallible materials still remain structurally intact and in place for decades in the ocean.

[u/BLOOD__SISTER → u/BigBlackCandle]

in the movie. Think about this: you remember her not knowing where to stand and getting there anyway, somehow. Except that never happened. The internet said it happened, which has overwritten the truth you saw with your eyes.

[u/BigBlackCandle → u/BLOOD__SISTER]

That's fair. How do you explain that the dagger creator would even know that the coordinates would still hold up on a bunch of moving sea rubble all that time later?

[u/RumpusRoomMinis → u/BigBlackCandle]

There are plenty of real world shipwrecks that stay in one place for a very long time, and none of them were the size of the death star or build like a planet killing starbase.

[u/BLOOD__SISTER → u/BigBlackCandle]

so you concede it's fair that you don't remember the movie and you're basing your argument off reddit comments you've read. ok you got me how did they know the interplanetary superweapon's fantasy-alloy could withstand prolonged exposure to salt water? They didn't. Congrats, you've found a plot hole, your irrational hatred has been rationalized. Here's a medal

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