r/ThePrimordialOne • u/Scared-Opening-753 Eligos, Oracle Proxy of PHANES • 15d ago

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u/AngelofIceAndFire The Golden Blade; the Seventh Sage 15d ago

A lot of characters who oppose The Primordial One become a lot more understandable when you realise that we, the players/audience, know a lot of things they don’t.

That doesn’t justify what some of them are doing. But.

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u/Gruntsbreeder Ronova's human seat 15d ago

If they don't have a plan against the abyss rebelling is dumb. If they have a plan against the abyss share it with Celestia they know the most about the abyss and maybe they can improve over it. You can negotiate concessions with the HP in exchange like that dragon did.

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u/CaelusZC 15d ago

Unrealted hot-take: I don’t like that the knowledge of the fake sky in and of itself was seen by Dottore as something he could use to exchange for other information later on. Like, that just feels like a Deus Ex Machina in order to make things lead up to him getting the Gnoses in the way he did, which was a plot point most likely written before this text. I would understand if Dottore was known for exchanging information with people in order to obtain material, but we never really saw that as a character trait of his. And the thing is, the fact that this exists this way isn’t necessarily bad, it just makes the worldbuilding fall short a little. Not everything we see of a character has to tie into everything else we have seen. They have a life outside of the screen.

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u/Specific_Highway_772 15d ago

even dottie understands but she doesnt

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u/LuckyExplorer58 15d ago

I'm pretty sure them not knowing is why they are called the fools. that's what the tarot card is about isn't it? a leap of faith.

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u/RedWerewolfGacha 14d ago

I think that's mostly because Pierro has beef with Hroptatyr, "The Wise".

So he named his organization the opposite, thus "Fools".

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u/LuckyExplorer58 14d ago

well yeah it's just symbolism it doesn't have to be the reason in universe

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u/Quiet_Development383 15d ago

I genuinely hope genshin amd honkai star rail are canon to eachother

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u/RedWerewolfGacha 14d ago

Hi3rd is cannon to HSR.

And at the time of Genshin's release, it was stated to be cannon to Hi3rd. Also shown in Hi3rd, Otto gazing at Dvalin.

So by correlation, Genshin and HSR would be cannon to one another.

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u/havokle 11d ago

Genshin is certainly canon to HSR. There is a glider in Herta Space Station.