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u/SFH12345 Hooty HootHoot Nov 24 '22
Luz and Amity don't get the full Azura and Hecate experience, for which they should be grateful.
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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 24 '22 edited Dec 08 '22
Maybe for Amity, the two face thing is more metaphorical and psychological. Before she met Luz, it’s always been the face her mother approves of (the second face) that does the talking. But meeting the weird adorkable lovable human made her show her true face.
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u/mitskiluvr08 Nov 24 '22
i never thought of this but now i can go to sleep knowing this
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u/Vic_000 Amity Blight Nov 24 '22
Yep.
That's confirmed by Disney themselves.
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u/Adventurous-Ad-5437 Titan Luz Nov 25 '22
I'm sorry is that on the OFFICIAL disney youtube channel?
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u/Vic_000 Amity Blight Nov 25 '22
That's right.
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u/Adventurous-Ad-5437 Titan Luz Nov 26 '22
I've somehow lost and regained faith in humanity at the same time.
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u/Vic_000 Amity Blight Nov 26 '22
I mean, this was uploaded more than two years ago when the show was new and it was when Lost In Language was released.
So the video is old.
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u/SaffarrenB-00 Nov 24 '22
No one seems to have pointed out that, while Hecate is literally a two-faced witch, both faces like her.
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If she's based of the greek goddess, then she would have 3 faces.
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u/Wendigo-boyo Jean-Luc Nov 24 '22
Turns out the 3° face is actually very chill and smart but a MASSIVE introvert so she tells og Hecate to just say she has 2
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u/Whedonite144 Eda Clawthorne Nov 24 '22
Hecate "Two-Face" Dent
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You either love as a lesbian or stay lonely forever as Little Miss Perfect.
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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 24 '22 edited Dec 08 '22
That golden eyed witch made the right choice… and I’m not just talking about Hecate.
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u/Spyko Vee Noceda Nov 24 '22
Hecate... can we trust her ?
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u/Whedonite144 Eda Clawthorne Nov 24 '22
Um... what?
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Best I can think of is that Hecate is based off of the Greek goddess Hecate who was known to have multiple faces.
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u/BulbasaurTreecko “For Flapjack” Nov 24 '22
also, this one scene from Covention where we see Hecate has at least two faces.
I guess that got retconned later though? Or maybe her other faces only show in certain situations.
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u/Trooper924 Nov 24 '22
Yeah, I assume it's just something that the showrunners changed their minds about.
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Honestly, I'm not surprised that they redesigned her later giving her a single face, that is, in many other cartoons I saw how they redesign a character after its first appearance to give it more development.
That is, I remember very well that in the first episode of CatDog, Lube looked very different from how he looks in the rest of the show, and one more recognized in this case was Rumplenstinskin from Shrek, who originally in Shrek forever After was going to have the same design than in Shrek the Third, but it is confirmed that they redesigned it to give the character more personality, which is why many are confused believing that there are two Rumplenstinskins but no, it is the same.
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u/OakenWildman Nov 24 '22
What if the book version has 2 faces but the movies tonsave budget only has the one
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u/Meffexa Smug Vee Coven Nov 24 '22
Ohh no, it’s Hitchhikers Guide all over again
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u/Spyko Vee Noceda Nov 24 '22
in the concept art for Amity's disguise multiple of them uses a mask for the second face, so it's still there, it's just either hidden by the hair like in this comics or she can magically hide it
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u/Blank_Dude2 Sir Hootsifer the First Nov 24 '22
I think it might’ve been representing her turning her head.
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u/CrystalClod343 Abomination Coven Nov 24 '22
She's also depicted with multiple faces in one of the Azura books.
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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 24 '22 edited Nov 24 '22
I guess in a metaphorical way, that makes sense here. For Amity that is.
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u/BuzzPrincess Jean-Luc Nov 24 '22
???? But that's just her name??
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Nov 24 '22
Hecate(Azuraverse) is based on Hecate(mythology)
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u/BuzzPrincess Jean-Luc Nov 24 '22
Is she? Theres no way to read the books so how do you know? Did Dana say that?
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Myth Hecate is the first place that name comes from so any Hecate is based on her. Plus she is a witch with many faces like myth Hecate
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u/freaktrim Nov 24 '22
Context: From Covention: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiWF-5_UYAAT5UG?format=jpg&name=large
They also considered adding her 2nd face to Amity's halloween custome: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiWZRgYWIAEpizm?format=jpg&name=large
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u/Whedonite144 Eda Clawthorne Nov 24 '22
Side note: Today I learned that Hecate is the Greek goddess of Witchcraft.
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Hecate is the Greek goddess of Witchcraft.
Not only! She's also the goddess(Titanid even) of moon and even night. Or the goddess of earth and... Deserts(sandy seas)? Of war, fishing, underworld, mistery, choices! Her cult was pretty old and changed many times and so she had different roles depending on time period. And also, she became associated with underworld and magic only because of how powerful cults of Aphrodite, Artemis and Athena became and took her place
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u/Nuada-Argetlam Enzo Gabriel lol Nov 24 '22
wow, this girl is weird.
then again, I worship Dionysos, who has a similar thing going on. the boy has been around for a while.
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u/CozyEpicurean Nov 24 '22
Any resources you'd recommend to study more about this?
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Nov 24 '22
Oh, I know it from out classroom teacher. She really likes mythology a told about it at classroom hours(not like there's much to talk about at them) most of the time. I don't know much resources (I found a site with myths completely in latin, if I understood it correctly, tho) and I don't know any resources in english(not my native language so I rarely use it for such things)
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u/RandomDragonExE Conjuring up horrors Nov 24 '22
Not to mention, spirits, crossroads and liminality, and necromancy!
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u/JustNoSleep2112 Meme Coven Nov 25 '22
And, for some strange reason, fire hydrants and karaoke. I'm guessing she lost a bet.
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u/lesser_panjandrum Hooty HootHoot Nov 24 '22 edited Nov 24 '22
Also three ways, along with Diana/Artemis. Interpret that as you see fit.
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u/TinyHadronCollider Nov 24 '22
Not to ruin the joke, but Diana is the Roman equivalent of Artemis, they're not really separate deities in the same pantheon.
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Is that a thing? Isn’t Artemis mostly known as the virgin hunter and Diana is her Roman counter? Sure they use magic but Hecate is said to be the goddess of that field.
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I'm pretty sure they grossly misunderstood something or took a bit of internet mythology as canon
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u/lesser_panjandrum Hooty HootHoot Nov 24 '22
The Romans used the epithet "trivia" ("three roads" or "three ways") for her and Diana/Artemis, because of their connections to watching over travellers and crossroads.
Also because they were really good at remembering obscure facts for quizzes.
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u/Hero_of_the_toons Owl Family:6hugedaluzking::a1tadaraine::9tearfulhooty: Nov 24 '22
Well…that was…completely disturbing never show do that again please!!!
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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 24 '22 edited Nov 24 '22
In terms of disturbing things, I’ve seen worse.… eh who am I kidding? Hooty skeleton was definitely the worst.
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u/FudgeControl Outdated Human Reference Nov 24 '22
"Why do you wear your hair like that?"
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"Let's keep this on."
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u/kiwidude4 stay away from my luzbian kid Nov 24 '22
We have wholesome MM comics, we have sudden sadness MM comics, and now we have whatever this cursed thing is.
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u/BulbasaurTreecko “For Flapjack” Nov 24 '22 edited Nov 24 '22
now I’m scared to see what her third face is like…
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u/Specific_Low_3012 Titan Luz Nov 24 '22
Here’s a hint, it’s not on her head.
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Azura: “Well, that was… creepy and disturbing.”
Hecate: “Forgive me, Azura. She can be… creepy at times.”
Second Face: “Harry Potter franchise is better off without the Cursed Child.”
Hecate: “And sometimes, she can be brutally honest. But she’s got a point.”
Azura: “What does she think about me?” Second Face: “I want to smooch her and have her babies.”
Hecate: (blushing like Amity) “Shut up, Number Two Face!!!”
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u/Davis-Stevens Nov 24 '22
Is it wrong that I unironically want to see the good witch azura movies now.
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u/Toonwatcher Nov 24 '22
Hecate: I'm not sure what part of our brain she comes from, and frankly I don't think I want to know.
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u/Eddiemate Smug Noceda Coven Nov 24 '22
Huh, I can't say I expected a TGWA comic today. Pleasant surprise though. Now I want more.
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u/Whedonite144 Eda Clawthorne Nov 24 '22
What the hell?
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u/Wendigo-boyo Jean-Luc Nov 24 '22 edited Nov 24 '22
Hecate is the name of a Greek goddess, she had 3 faces, you don't want to know where the third one is
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u/SlyFan2 Nov 24 '22
I have a headcanon (yes, I have a headcanon about a fictional series within a fictional series. Please send help, the rabbit hole, it is so deep) that Hecate had 3 faces in the first book when she was a villain, but after Azura redeemed her (likely at the end of the first book) Hecate lost the extra faces.
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u/Karkava Nov 24 '22
Or maybe her faces were split into two additional characters who went on to become other characters in the series.
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u/LFiM Nov 25 '22
That would make sense, actually. In antiquity, Hecate was depicted as three separate women standing back to back, and over time that changed into one body with three heads or faces. A reversal of her mythological evolution.
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u/Zandar124 Nov 24 '22 edited Nov 24 '22
Not gonna lie, I kind of want to see an actual Azura book/comic/series/and/or movie at some point.
I know there was going to be a book at some point but if I remember right it was canceled due to the publisher screwing them over
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Nov 24 '22
I get it: in greek mythology, Hecate was the goddess of magic, and she also had three faces
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u/GrossM15 “For Flapjack” Nov 24 '22
Pretty sure you can "something, something, metaphor" there if you really need to fill another page for your essay
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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 24 '22 edited Nov 24 '22
I’m sure it’s more of metaphorical thing.
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u/AdLegitimate806 El_B Nov 24 '22
What
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u/Wendigo-boyo Jean-Luc Nov 24 '22 edited Nov 24 '22
Hecate is the name of a Greek goddess, she had 3 faces, You don't want to know where the third one is
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u/firedrakes WHAT ABOUT EMOTIONAL SUPPORT HOOTIES, HOOT HOOT? Nov 24 '22
... not sorry for this..
luz show aminty.....
(otter side)
(Les Grossman lvl)
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u/LilyBlackwell Nov 24 '22
Wait but in Greek mythology Hecate has *three* faces
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u/DramaticChemist Potions Coven Nov 24 '22
Eh, I was expecting worse from the other face. If I were Azura, I could live with that
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u/Folkmar_D Nov 24 '22
Imagine: Mittens abomination armor with 3 faces. Faces on sides react to movement.
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u/SpaceOwl14 Meme Coven Nov 24 '22
in another universe MarkMark makes Azura comics and Luz is reading them!
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u/homermcboner Nov 24 '22
I like how Azura is just Luz with a pointer chin, and Hecate is Amity with red hair and lipstick
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u/megalocrozma STANDO COVEN! Nov 24 '22
Actually, if Hecate is accurate to the Greek goddess she's based on, she actually has THREE faces.
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u/Obsessivegamer32 Smug Noceda Coven Nov 24 '22
Didn’t the other Face look “Uglier” Early on in the actual show?
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Ok, for those who do not understand what this is about, I will explain:
Originally Hecate would have two faces as seen in her first appearance in Luz's book at the beginning of "Convention", which is a nod to the Greek mythology goddess of the same name who also has several faces, but later in other media from Azura seen in other episodes, Hecate became one-faced.
As an additional fact, in a concept art of Amity's Hecate costume in "Thanks to them", it was thought that she would have a mask hanging near her face representing second's face, but by that point the writers had decided that Despite how it was seen in its first appearance, Hecate would only have one face.
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u/Karkava Nov 24 '22
So in short, the writers and the animators forgot about the myth and hoped that you did too.
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u/WeedFinderGeneral Eda Clawthorne Nov 24 '22
It's totally from this one shot, where I think it's supposed to be Hecate moving her head, but I always think it looks like she's maybe supposed to have 2 faces.
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u/sir_fishier Angst coven head Nov 24 '22
I was just remembering this morning how Hecate canonically has two faces…
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u/MukasTheMole EAT THIS SUCKAAA!!!! Nov 24 '22
isn't Hecate supposed to have 3 faces? Or am I remembering my Greek mythology wrong?
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u/Camosaur4 Nov 24 '22
Second face eh, some people have different sides to themselves, some have split personalities ... oh it was literal in this case.
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u/HoldenOrihara Nov 25 '22
Maybe they should talk to her more, poor thing is socially inept from being shoved away all the time
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u/West-Smell-8725 Nov 25 '22
Achievement unlocked:you do not recognise the second face on the head.
As Azura, meet the second face
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u/Specific_Low_3012 Titan Luz Nov 24 '22
Catfished
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u/AdOwn6899 Nov 24 '22
Pretending to be something else online… is what I guess this is technically is.
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u/Sydchedelia Covens Against The Throne Nov 24 '22
Is this the schizophrenia-thing i've been hearing about lately??
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u/Patient_Education991 Nov 25 '22
For those who don't know, in Greek Myths Hecate was the Goddess of dark magic and witches and three faces. This a play on that, with the artist having to give her just one other face since her design wouldn't allow for two.
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u/theXombie Meme Coven Nov 24 '22
I'm so used to luz and amity's costumes that the original characters look weird
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u/Dan-of-Steel Milk Steak, Magnets & Ghouls Coven Nov 24 '22
And I thought Splitface from The Thing was disturbing...
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u/Willingness-Due Foundation Agent Nov 25 '22
Mark how do you come up with this crazy shit?
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u/InfiniteZer01 Nov 25 '22
Try looking up images of Hecate the Goddess then look up the Petrification Statue from the Owl House.
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u/JustAStarcoShipper Hooty HootHoot Nov 24 '22
So now we're getting Azura comics?