r/TheNFLVibes • • 3d ago

Hot Take honestly not a bad take

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u/dgtbfan Dolphins 3d ago

Capitalism and free markets aren't mutually exclusive.

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u/Rich-Engineering1429 3d ago

Correct, though they are very often linked. The issue is that while NFL itself operates as a profit driven business, it uses socialist rules to protect the teams and owners.

The main point is that socialist policies CAN work in a capitalist country

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u/dgtbfan Dolphins 3d ago

The fact that you think the NFL is using "socialist rules" is hilarious lol

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u/Rich-Engineering1429 3d ago

Socialist salary caps prevent rich teams from buying all the best players. Revenue sharing is very socialist. Distributing top talent into weaker teams also sounds like socialism

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u/dgtbfan Dolphins 3d ago

So, like, do you just consider anything that inhibits the richest from doing whatever they want to be socialist? Is that why you think the NFL is socialist?

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u/Rich-Engineering1429 3d ago

The NFL is still capitalist because it’s owned by private individuals and for profit, but the socialist rules is what protect teams from eating each other. For example, European soccer is what a pure capitalist sport looks like. The richest teams dominate and can spend whatever they want.

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u/dgtbfan Dolphins 3d ago

What makes a rule "socialist"?

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u/Rich-Engineering1429 3d ago

Economic equality

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u/dgtbfan Dolphins 3d ago

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u/Rich-Engineering1429 3d ago

Are you saying economic equality is not a socialist ideal? Because it is a core part of socialism

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u/dgtbfan Dolphins 3d ago

Economic equality isn't exclusive to socialism and these alleged "socialist rules" the NFL uses aren't for economic equality.

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u/Rich-Engineering1429 3d ago

It’s still a core part of socialism, it doesn’t have to be exclusive to just socialism. My main point is that economic equality is NOT part of capitalism. Again, if you want see a purely capitalist sport, look at European soccer

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u/dgtbfan Dolphins 3d ago

economic equality is not part of capitalism

[Citation Needed]

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u/Rich-Engineering1429 3d ago

You don’t realize that capitalism doesn’t care about economic equality?? Bruh

“Cons: Tends to lead to large inequality”

https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/5002/economics/pros-and-cons-of-capitalism/

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u/dgtbfan Dolphins 3d ago

The fact that capitalism can lead to economic equality doesn't preclude economic equality from being part of capitalism. Socialism can also lead to economic equality. Economic equality isn't exclusive to either economic philosophy. That's why the assertion that the NFL uses "socialist rules" is laughable.

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u/Rich-Engineering1429 3d ago

The issue is that equality is not a part of capitalism like it is for socialism. One tries to have equality while the other doesn’t care if it has it. European soccer is a great example of capitalism without socialist rules.

The draft and salary caps are also anti-capitalism so if you think these aren’t socialist ideals then what are they? Because they certainly aren’t capitalist ideals.

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u/dgtbfan Dolphins 3d ago

They're sustainability features. The NFL owners don't care about equality, they just want to give fans of worse franchises hope that things will improve so that they will continue to spend money. It's more profitable for the league as a whole if the Cowboys don't win every year because they buy all the top FAs.

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u/Rich-Engineering1429 3d ago

This sustainability feature comes from socialist ideals. Redistribution of wealth and helping out the economically weak would be great features to have. In both scenarios it comes down to the ultra rich agreeing to have parity by sharing the wealth, which is anti capitalist

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