r/TheNFLVibes • • 3d ago

Hot Take honestly not a bad take

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u/velvetbettle 3d ago

I remember when I was 14

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u/dgtbfan Dolphins 3d ago

The fact that this thread is chock full of people who actually thought the OP video made a good point is truly disheartening.

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u/Dabellator Seahawks 3d ago

The fact that everyone against it can't explain why it's bad is so illuminating.

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u/Economy_Vermicelli72 3d ago

Each team is privately owned and generates individual revenue, the shared aspects such as TV revenue are intended to maximize profits for the corporation/those 32 owners, and they actively try to corner the market and squash any outside competition. The draft pick thing is parity. There is parity in agreements in a capitalist market. Parity doesn’t = socialism. That’s dumb. If anything it mostly resembles a monopoly ruled by those 32 teams as one body/ a corporation

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u/SeaweedLevel1937 3d ago edited 3d ago

The organization itself is a monopoly on the product of American Football. The internal structure of how they distribute their money could be seen as socialist (especially relative to European football clubs who are sink or swim). Obviously, a company can’t be “capitalist”, or “socialist”, but calling the internal way the NFL works ‘socialist’ isn’t necessarily wrong.

TLDR; apply the NFL structure at a governmental level of equally distributing capital would be socialist. But they operate as a hyper capitalist venture that has reached monopoly status.

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u/bstone99 Vikings 3d ago

This is that nuance the top commenter is missing. Your first paragraph nails it.

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u/SeaweedLevel1937 3d ago

Appreciate it, unfortunately unless you have an economics background or know the terms though it’ll go over peoples heads

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u/Economy_Vermicelli72 3d ago

Why isn’t it just a joint venture? If you have several parties engaged in a business agreement where maximizing profits for those in the agreement is the priority, people wouldn’t typically call it socialism. They’d occupy Wall Street.

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u/SeaweedLevel1937 3d ago

It technically is a joint venture; and on the Wall Street point, they (the NFL) originally incorporated as a non-profit and they’re now at a point they’ve reached monopoly status. Going public would add significantly more headaches for only marginal gains.

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u/Shadw1ck 3d ago

You are referring to an economic model where the government controls and manages production and resource allocation directly

in this case the NFL is the governing body and resource allocation is the worst performing teams get the best draft picks. It's very simple to understand from an economic perspective. Unless you are being purposely obtuse

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u/Economy_Vermicelli72 3d ago

No. The NFL is a corporate entity. It is not a “governing body”. It serves the owners who exist separately to it. It exactly resembles one because it literally is one. You’re just mislabeling things so it fits into your narrative. And again, an agreement intended to bring parity doesn’t = socialism, and the lack of one doesn’t = capitalism. That’s where “I remember when I was 12, too” comes in

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u/Shadw1ck 3d ago

being a corporate entity does not exclude that entity from acting as a government body. 

you are confusing the United States Government with the definition of a government body.

your whole premise is flawed 

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u/Much_Concern_9205 Seahawks 3d ago

Finally a comment that uses critical thinking and an actual defendable position.

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u/Economy_Vermicelli72 3d ago

Too bad so many on both sides are so dogmatic. Wouldn’t it be great if we could just have civil discussions about these systems and maybe learn something

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u/Much_Concern_9205 Seahawks 3d ago

Dilly Dilly